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Saturday, January 7, 2017

Mortgage Fraud, Political Status and Law, Or, Stop Being Stupid Part 15


By Anna Von Reitz

Law is not a good thing simply by its nature.  It arises out of religion, which is supposed to be a matter of freewill, but seldom is, and then it erects barriers and presumptions based on whatever system of law you are encountering.  All systems of law are essentially rules for the Game of Life, but it is up to you to choose the rules you are operating under, and that then determines how you play it.

So let's go over the basics.

In the beginning of recorded history we lived under the Noahide Laws known as the Law of the Sea.  This is the form of law that existed prior to the Flood and has existed ever afterward.  There is no evidence in the standard Bible that Noah was a lawgiver like Moses, but his name got attached to these laws anyway.


Later in firmly recorded history the international Law of the Sea was bifurcated into two functional groupings--- one called Law Merchant or Maritime or Civil Law or Commercial Law, which concerns itself with "civilians" and "civilian commerce", and one called Admiralty, which concerns itself with military or governmental commerce on the High Seas.

The Law Merchant was first codified by Hammurabi and so the whole tradition of "Federal Code" rests on a practice of codifying international commercial law that goes back thousands of years.

These law systems are all pagan and mostly Satanic in origin (Satan was--and is--- the original Lord of the Sea: a Pirates' Pirate.) and were most recently overhauled by the Romans to create "Roman Civil Law" which is the basis of 90% of what goes on in courtrooms across America today. 

Again, these are laws stemming from the beliefs and ethical practices of pagan traditions. Key to these is understanding the idea of trading and honor and contracts. 

Anyone can make any kind of "offer" no matter how outrageous it may be, and if you accept it, it becomes the law established between the parties.  You can have implied contracts (also called presumed contracts), unilateral contracts, verbal contracts, and formal written contracts.

While anyone may offer any proposal at all, such as offering to cut off your head and charge you for the pleasure of doing so, it is considered very rude to arbitrarily or absolutely refuse an offering.  Thus, you must counter-offer or you "dishonor" the offer and the one making it.

In the example given, you might reply, "I am fond of my head, and so I counter-offer to run my sword through your gizzard, instead."

This sort of trading smacks of The Three Musketeers and the bantering that still goes on in Italian and Spanish and Greek marketplaces today. 

Contracts only exist under these forms of law.  All contracts and contractual practices, which allow lying, cheating, and defrauding ---- IF you can get away with it undetected--- are pagan and Satanic in origin.

A much more common contractual offering today is when a bank (a corporation) offers your STRAWMAN persona a "home loan".  The essence of the offer is that the STRAWMAN gives the bank your money and credit, the bank then credits the STRAWMAN's account with the bank for this theft, and writes a check in HIS name for the balance which the bank misrepresents as a "loan" to you and then charges you interest equal to three to five times the total value of the "loan" and cheats you out of all the mortgage payments by claiming that the STRAWMAN "abandoned" the funds in HIS inactive escrow account, and also claims an undeserved and unearned "security interest" in your actual house as the bank's share of this contractual offer. 

It is the modern day equivalent of "Let me cut off your head and charge you for the pleasure of doing so." and yet, somehow, no matter how outrageous the offer really is, millions of people have been deceived by the bank's false advertising of a "loan" and the natural false assumption that the bank is offering to loan them money instead of offering to take their own assets and loan them back at outrageous interest.

In Roman Civil Law, all is fair so long as you don't get caught.  Note the adage, "Let him be deceived who will be deceived."

And this is completely natural to  and to be expected from any law system that stems from the worship of the Father of All Lies. 

The remedy to this is that, also under Roman Civil Law, fraud vitiates--- that is, nullifies---everything it touches once it is detected and the crime of fraud has no statute of limitations. You can go after the perpetrators and their successors and pierce the corporate veil and go after their shareholders, too, once you discover and prove that you have been defrauded.

The most basic level of fraud for Americans is that you have been "reclassified" as a "citizen" and made subject to Roman Civil Law without your knowledge or consent.  So you are left in the dark and acting under false assumptions about what game you are playing and under what rules. 

How can you win under such a circumstance?  You can't.  It's like trying to play Bridge using the rules for Poker. 

And this is why the "United States District Court" judges peer over their desks at you and tell you that the "Constitution doesn't apply" in their courts. 

It doesn't.  They aren't addressing you as a red-blooded American.  They are addressing a foreign national who freely admits to be a "US citizen" of some kind, and they are proceeding under the system of law that foreign national has chosen---- Roman Civil Law.

How is this possible?  Why, via lies and deceit, of course. 

Within hours of your birth the foreign corporations charged with providing your states with nineteen stipulated governmental services come to your Mother (still in her hospital bed) and deliberately, self-interestedly, and under "color of law"---- that is pretending that it is your law and that the requirement applies to you when it doesn't----they have you signed over as a ward of their "State" corporation. 

Now, this is not your state of the Union.  This is a federal franchise operation merely calling itself something deceptively similar.  Instead of the "California state" or even the "California State" they are operating the federal Territorial  "State of California" or the "STATE OF CALIFORNIA" which is even worse----a municipal franchise "STATE". 

Mom, dead tired, hurting, in a daze, trustingly signs the paperwork, completely unaware that she is even in a foreign jurisdiction, much less on her guard against legal chicanery leading to the enslavement of her newborn baby to the Devil and subjecting him to Roman Civil Law.

Under Roman Civil Law, the Vendor argues, well, this "Informant" came to us and said this baby was a fatherless bastard and abandoned and that it was a "US citizen" so we took the little pauper under our wing and did the decent thing.....here's the paperwork, here's the Informant's name (your Mother) and the Doctor witnessed it.... 

Yeah, right.  Satan loves dealing in half-truths.

The fact is that you were never under their foreign Roman Civil Law and were never a "United States Citizen" much less a "citizen of the United States".  Your Mother was never obligated to sign any paperwork and wasn't subject to their pagan law, but by deliberate deceit and racketeering carried out under false pretenses and color of law, they defrauded her of her child and kidnapped you into their foreign jurisdiction. 

In the process, they created a false identity, a "STRAWMAN" persona named after you.  This is required so that you can operate in their system of things and play under their rules.  Living people can't form contracts, so you can only operate as a "dead man"----in other words, as a corporation---in their world. 

In token of this surreptitious change in political status, they issued a "Birth Certificate" under your name and gave it to you, memorializing the event of your "civil death".  When the PERSON was born, the man "died".  When the PERSON dies, the man lives.  Both can't exist at the same time, because it is impossible to live under two jurisdictions at once and equally impossible to play the Game of Life under two sets of rules at the same time.

So you were attacked, robbed of your birthright, defrauded in broad daylight under color of law---- by your own employees no less --- when you were between a few hours and a few days old.  You were kidnapped and transported to a foreign jurisdiction (international) and made subject to a foreign and profane system of law (international commerce) and neither you nor your Mother were ever told a thing about it.

That counts as fraud.  Big time fraud.  Capital level war crime fraud.  And it is going on all day, every day, all over America.  Why? 

Because the federal corporation that is charged with providing your states with nineteen enumerated governmental services has gone rogue. Completely insane.  And all those people you elected to Congress and who pretend to be doing your Will and acting in your best interests are instead obligated to act as Pure Profit Mongers, with no other consideration but making money for their shareholders---- who are all conveniently dead. 

This, believe it or not, is how America became the richest nation on Earth---- by enslaving and kidnapping all of us and setting up "generation skipping trusts" in our names, so that only those outside the system can access any benefit from it, ever.

Who figured all this out and implemented it?  The Holy See, the Secretary of War circa 1907, the Secretary of the Treasury circa 1924, the City of London, Lords of the Admiralty, the British Government, and the entire Franklin Delano Roosevelt Administration.  We know who "did it to us"---and we know why and we know how.

What remains is what is to be done about it, and what are the options?

Slaughtering all members of the Bar Associations for not telling us has been suggested, but I am convinced that 95% of the members of the Bar Associations (probably more) are just as stupid as we have been and haven't been taught anything different or better in the law schools, which have also been commandeered.

In the meanwhile, while all this is being sorted out, it behooves each American to record their actual political status as an American state national---- a Minnesotan, Texan, etc., and to expatriate from any presumption that you are voluntarily choosing to be a "United States Citizen" or "citizen of the United States". 

So all of that is about the pagan law system known as the Law of the Sea. 

I have filed all the paperwork necessary for everyone on this planet to be enabled to make their own informed and truly freewill choices about how they want to live and which system of law they want to live under, but so far you've only been allowed to live under the Law of the Sea in a system devoted to Satan-worship.

Some people have tried to invoke what they call "Natural Law" as a substitute for the "Law of the Sea" but a closer examination reveals that this is just the Law of the Sea transplanted onto the land---- popularly called "the law of the Jungle" or "Tooth and Claw" Law---- which enshrines whoever is biggest and strongest and most "fit" to survive and which is in fact worse than the Law of the Sea because it is less developed and remedy is limited to whatever the victims can enforce all by themselves.  You might as well give the parties to a complaint a set of clubs and call the judge a referee.

What about the Law of Moses, known as the Law of the Land, based on the Ten Commandments?

That is the law form that we are naturally owed by birthright, the simple Law of the Land embraced by the Ten Commandments and then established as secular law by the United States Statutes at Large and our local American Common Law. 

When Moses parted the Red Sea and we "crossed over" we left the Law of the Sea behind and began operating as living people operating on the dry land jurisdiction of our native country, taking responsibility for ourselves, and subjecting ourselves to the Ten Commandments as our chosen law and our Rules for the Game of Life in America. 

We don't form contracts, because we know that we can't guarantee them.  At most, we form Good Faith Agreements. These agreements, sometimes mistakenly called "contracts" have specific requirements--- they have to involve at least two separate parties who are clearly identified, have to be consensual, have to be fully-disclosed, have to signed in wet-ink and so on.  There is no such thing as a "unilateral" or "implied" or "one party" good faith agreement. 

This law, the Law of the Land, is the basis of trade among men, as opposed to the Law of the Sea, which is the basis of commerce among corporations. 

Are there any other options?

Yes, there is. 

There is the Law of the Air, the rules of the Game of Life in the Kingdom of Heaven. 

You can freely choose this option because all your debts have been pre-paid, whoever you are, whatever religion you adopted and wherever you were born.  And it doesn't matter what you believe, you can still live in the Kingdom of Heaven so long as you agree to obey its three simple laws:

1. Keep the peace.
2. Love others as you would be loved.
3. Allow everyone their freewill so long as it causes no harm.

Just as you are given a "Birth Certificate" (which is actually a form of legal Death Certificate) when you are born, you are given a "Baptismal Certificate" (which is a passport from where you are to wherever you want to go) when you repent your sins. 

Just as Moses parted the Red Sea and led people onto dry land (out of the pagan sea jurisdiction) and they became a nation of people on the land and they were given the Law of Moses to live under, Jesus parted the curtain in the temple, severing the disconnect between God and Man, and led us to the realm of the Holy Spirit, and the Law of the Air jurisdiction.

It is not our job in the jurisdiction of the air to judge anyone or separate the goats from the sheep.  Both the goats and sheep belong to our Lord, the one who paid the Devil for all of us, though the Devil keeps trying to double dip and kidnap us into his jurisdiction. 

So in the end, creating the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth is up to us. 

Choosing which law we will subject ourselves to, is up to us.  Choosing which Master we will serve is also our free choice.  But it is a choice, and it is a choice which we must consciously, knowingly, with full disclosure make. 

Law of the Sea, Law of the Land, or Law of the Air. 

Bogus Contracts, Laws, or Love. 

Satan, Kings, or Christ.

Death, Existence, or Life Abundant.

All debts of everyone on this planet have been paid in full.  They have been pre-paid before the debt is even incurred.  That is the fact.  The reality.  Your debts have already been "fore-given".  All of them, in every realm of existence.

Buddhist, Marxist, Atheist, Bahai, Lithuanian Baptist---- it doesn't matter.  Your debts in all jurisdictions have literally been prepaid in water, blood, and spirit.  You are in fact given the free choice of who you will serve, how your will play the Game of Life, and which set of rules you will live under.

So stop letting criminals subject you to the "laws" of Satan and his bogus contracts and his worship of idols (graven images) long after his rule on Earth was supposed to end.  Don't let the rats snatch your children from their cradles under color of law and subject them to the Law of the Sea.  Shame and expose those who are doing this. 

Think twice about embracing the Law of Moses as your option, either, because nobody manages to keep the Ten Commandments.  All men are Transgressors against the Law of the Land---- and that's with leaving out the rest of the 613 laws the Israelites were supposed to perform.  That's why they needed a Messiah to begin with.

And as for the Law of Love, at the present time, that's a hard one, too---- because we are being called upon to love those who are most unlovable: despicable Satan-worshipers, faithless politicians, and ignorant kin.  Indeed, it isn't easy to pick up your cross and follow Him, but when you consider the options--- where would you rather be? 

Snatching babies from their cradles and condemning them to "civil death"?  Condemning people for their circumstance and the weakness of their bodies? 

Or pouring a drink of water for the thirsty and giving rest to the weary? 


It's your life, your law, your choice to make.
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19 comments:

  1. If everything is pre-paid. What is the procedure for laying claim to your pre-paid account? How does one settle his electric bill for instance ? You must tell us this Anna, otherwise we can not be free.

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    1. some say stop acting in the "representative" capacity as registered agent of office and turn it over to the Principal. Is it your entity?

      Maybe the Chief Executive Office is what you are after? The Parent Company.

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  2. Dear BlueCollar...seek wisdom and education from Anna's work (so many others can answer this also for you; so learn and follow...do the work that is nescessary). Just know, that all that you do on your behalf, frees all of humanity in their course, therefore your new-found wisdom, that must resonate within you, will be a part of what will free all of us. Keep on keepin'-on. We need you. Don't stop now; stay the course & give permission to your angels to answer your deepest concerns, then trust what comes next...Blessings, Namaste'

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  3. Money and World Peace

    The federal reserve note is not a currency approved by the congress under the Constitution for the united States. The federal reserve note, the currency of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (its on the notes), a British corporation (not disclosed on the note), is a currency of the British Empire. There are only archive remnants of lawful currency, under the Constitution for the united States. This is not enough circulated currency to manage a zoo, let alone the economy of a great nation.

    This is because, since the congress split and never reconvened at onstart of the civil war, no lawful currency has ever since been created under the Constitution for the united States. The only remaining lawful money in existence, in archive quantities, manages, today, the entire "zoo" that is the economy.

    The truth for any judge you may meet, is that you have no American money, and never ever have had, any American money. You've spent your life using British Empire money in trade for all economic exchanges. Then, ask the judge. Why do you want paid in British Empire federal reserve notes, for a court settlement in an American land jurisdiction court? The judge tips his hand when he asks for British Empire money. The judge presides in a British Empire court, in maritime jurisdiction, by making all settlements in British Empire money.

    The British lost the original and the second 1812 revolutionary wars. They did manage, however, to establish a British Empire money system starting in 1913, with the establishment of the federal reserve. British Empire money paid for both revolutionary wars, the civil war, the reconstruction of the south after the civil war (over Lincoln's dead body), WWI, it's reconstruction, WWII, its reconstruction, and all wars ever since, and most reconstructions. British Empire, war for profit money, the federal reserve note, finances all American past and existing military actions. Stop the British Empire, its money system, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (corporation), FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE, and world peace might just have a chance.

    Better yet, replace the federal reserve note with the heirship economy note, a vastly superior and more peaceful currency, the only world currency, operating under Natural Law. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByoBFsAn_OgvU3paT3Y3dUpJTVU/view

    Here is the history: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByoBFsAn_OgvRnhubzZrMjRjaFk/view



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  4. Isn't anyone going to comment on Anna's version of whose debts have been paid in full??? Everyone? Is this supported by scripture? She is a real enigma. this post starts off with some real good stuff and I was really liking it until we got to who is who and where their jurisdiction was etc.. She speaks of the Kingdom of Heaven, which is synonymous with the Kingdom of God, and she speaks of Jesus and how He had parted the veil, and she goes on to tell us who will get into the Kingdom, and this is where she becomes derailed. Whose debts gave been paid in full by the shedding of our Lord's precious blood? Is it the Buddhist, Marxist, Atheist, Bahai, Lithuanian Baptist whose debts in all jurisdictions have literally been prepaid in His water, blood, and spirit? Is that what the Christ taught us? Didn't our Lord tell us in John 14:6 that “I am the way and the truth and the life. NO ONE comes to the Father EXCEPT through me."? Since the Kingdom of God is only within the Believer as a result of his belief, and his sins have been paid for by the shedding of the Lord's blood, those mentioned above may reap the benefits of the Kingdom of God once Christian values take over, but until they repent of their unbelief, they will not enter the Kingdom, as they couldn't being as it is inside the Believer only. The next question would be, does one get to choose to become a believer? John 15:16 answers that where it says: You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit--fruit that will last--and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you." This, and about 30 more similar passages, show that the Elect, and them alone, are predestined to be chosen to sit at the Father's right hand and no one else. I could go on and on, but that would take a book. In my opinion Anna's comments would be misleading to those who are in the dark about our Lord, which in and of itself could be construed as a stumbling block.

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    1. All concept is illusion, therefore, no book can be a teacher! This is why God's teaching is foolishness to man for man makes God in his own image by the concepts he/she entertains. "Love thy enemy as thyself" What is the self of all without separation and when you remove all concept, Christian, Jew, Hindu....... What remains? "Freedom from the known"

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  5. We want freedom but if draged. In to thair court you are in thair meat grinder some say you can't win .they have unlimited rules .we have to establish common law courts .to trump thair bogus system .

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    1. This is all just good to know trivia but we know how to beat them justice scillia was eliminated he was our go to on common law courts.

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    2. They laugh at you or make you get a pycheratic.evaluation . Stay out of thair courts and create lawful old fashioned common law justice of the peace court a dumb butt sheriff can comprehend .

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  6. I thought all of you already knew and understood that all our debts were pre paid. That was the whole reason jesus died for us. He was the final "lamb" used once and for all to wipe away debt, which translates today as "death". Death/debt sound alike, dont they. Actually from a health point debt(and all the stress and negative vibrations that it causes) actually causes death and weakens our immune system. Thats why Jesus "demanded" that every apostile(the 12 that were always with him) that none of them could ever carry any form of money whatsoever. Otherwise, they wouldnt have been able to accomplish anything without constant arguements over it. Instead, he taught all of them to trust that if they really need anything, all they had to do is ask "his father" and he would surely provide it for them as long as it wasnt a selfish desire for materialism. He was teaching them about "FAITH" instead of money. And that our creator did not put us here to starve to death. But as soon as we were brainwashed, by the very people we were supposed to trust(the priest and rabis of the world) were the very people that decieved all of us , because they never had the kind of "faith" that jesus taught his apolsiles. Out of their own weak faith, they deceived us into the "lie" that we had to have the secular creation of man(called money) in order to survive. And even though you dont believe that everything isnt already pre paid, they do. And they even provide the payment for you to discharge that debt right with every bill you get. They have to by law , because in a system of law that is based on debt instead of substance, the one asking for payment, also has to provide the remedy to discharge the liability of that request along with the bill so it can be "accepted for value" as it was offered "in value". They are the ones giving it value, not us. Because they are using our CREDIT ( based on the value they gave our birth certificates). But they never told us how the UCC works or that all contracts are based on the simple concept of "Offer and Acceptance". Based on that simple concept who holds all the power of a "Contract". If you said the offerer does, you still dont understand contract law based on "debt instraments"and you even fail to identify or recognize an offer when you see it. Its the "Acceptor" who has all the power. Not the "Offerer". So for example, you get an electric , gas, water, or any other bill in the mail.By the way, they never call it a bill, they call it a billing statement or some other statement, because a true bill would require a signiture and a contract having two signitures.

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  7. Like judge Anna said there is no such thing as a unilateral or implied contract, even though every single college economics class says they do. If you look at thr bill, they always have a "perferated" coupon at the bottom of the bill which they tell you to detach and sent back with your payment. But that coupon(called a voucher) is the payment. They are trying to get you to pay twice. Rip the voucher off and relabel it for what it actually represents,a "MONEY ORDER". Write it right across the top of the voucher. Then cross out the word.."amount" on their bill and replace it with value.Then write anywhere you can in red ink the following: Value applied by holder of bond # (the # on the back of your SS card or birth certificate if you have it) under authority of law and claim. Then at the bottom of the voucher write: "Accepted for value as true and return by bond in exchange for discharge, and settlement of the accounting". Then we used to endorse it with our signiture as "Authorized Representatives" (meaning for the Strawman in all caps). But now we never endorse their private credit ever. Now we just add the following: Endorsement not necessary since this remmittance is made under a lawful money demand found at 12USC411 . Then mail it back to them, after making copies, and send it registered mail. People were actually getting remedy for awhile using this method. But now, sadly, it doesnt look like anyone is going to honor anything anymore. And thats the reason i believe that Trump was chosen by God to finally give gods people the remedy we were asking and seeking for, but continually denied from dishonerable rebrobates. So right now my suggestion is only try what i just said on bills that cant really hurt you, like the utilitiy companies. Try using it on something like a parking ticket first. Then if it doesnt work at least ypu can still pay it the regular way without losing anything...There are people, like Rob Ryder, on the net that talk about this method. I only wanted to confirm what she said....that everything we need (not always want) has already been pre-paid by the blood of Christ and by our own birth certificates, which are worth several millions of dollars now.

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  8. Posted by Paul for Anna Von Reitz

    The Credit established against our BC has been used up, so the rats just created another bankrupt corporation "in our Names" to charge their bills against--- JOHN M. DOE-- which isn't even a legal name.

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  9. We have reached the end of the road when it comes to "remedy", because of the absolute greed and fraud created on wall street between 2000 and 2007, ending in a TRUE BANKRUPTCY this time in 2008. We never recovered. This is truely an illusion now. Can you imagine what it was like on the floor of the "stock exchange" during those years. It had to look exactly what Moses saw when he came down from mt. Siani with the 10 commandments....irresponsible and totally immoral reckless abandon, with absoluty no accountability to anyone for anything. Drugs,sex, golden calfs, you name it it took place right there on the "floor". Even Alan Greenspan had to give it a special name for it...."irrational exuberance". God himself couldnt have said it better. That was the last hoorah. The only thing left is "revalations". Biblical prophecy is on warp speed now. And instead of admitting their sin, and returning everything they stole from everyone, they actually defy him further by constructing the "Arch of Baal" in New York. How in the heck can we find any remedy, when they are trying everything possible to invalidate Trumps election. It is unpresidented in the history of this country to treat a lawfully elected president this way. If they arent going to treat Trump with respect, where are we going to get remedy. Hell, they want to kill him. What is the first sign of any despots when they start losing their control
    ...usually they fight even harder and treat people even worse. And thats what we are witnessing right now. Trump is our only remedy possible now. Him, and the hand of God. Rabi Johnathan Cohn, just wrote a new book called the "book of mysteries". We are definately living in the end times. Just lay low for now. Thats the best advice i can give you now...

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  10. I thought the PERSON was already a dead entity, was never alive in the first place, and should only be used as a tool in commerce like a hammer to pound a nail, and not to identify the living self with. I just don't like the fact that others have claimed beneficiary status. I don't know anything about the "law of the jungle", however I did grow up spending most of my young life in the woods and around wild animals, and I can garantee that most of them are more civilized and compassionate than some humans who claim to rule. If it was all just "tooth and claw" there would not be any animals left. Most of them tend to show respect and some are even protective of other species. Some even become unlikely friends. It's true that some are territorial, but I have yet to see animals go to war, commit genocide for profit, or enslave others. I have witnessed animals making good faith agreements in which different species seem to be comunicating via telepathy eye to eye, nose to nose.

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  11. It is all just mumbo jumbo. I have been vigourously studying this freedom movement and the constitution and statutory law for a year now. And every freedom movement site or person talkes about how to access your TDA or how to pay a bill. But not one person Anna and Paul included can state for a fact of how it is axactly done and that they have ever successfully done anything. You would think Anna being of a judge herself and knowing the true law would really know how to do the proccess. But it all just leads to the same conclution. Back to the beginning. Slave. We still are our slave masters puppits. And it"s by this book or that book or pay to read this or that. Or buy this silver from me. It seems to me that it is all the same bait and switch game just under the guise of the freedom movement. Not one person in this whole year of studying has shown me the true way out and that they have proof of duing it themselves. But it does past the time and makes for a good entertaining read. Thats why they always say this isnt legal advise it is for entertainment purposes only. Thats because they have no idea of how to really do the things they claim you need to do and it either generates them some income or it just makes for a great story. If one person can show me exactly how to get out of this system and get my economic due also with proof that they actually did it themself. I would greatfully and handsomly pay them. Even Anna hasn't done what needs to be done. She still lives in the system.I love the concept Anna and Paul has put forth and love both of their works. And I am a true follower of Christ. Bot I just feel all this just leads us further down the rabbit hole and know body actually tells us the true way out.

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    1. From Anna:

      Just this morning I was reading a GMAC Commercial Credit Security agreement in a Patent called "US Babies" which describes yet another way that the corporate vermin "factor" as in multiplication problem the value of guess what? US Babies.


      Better grow up and take on the battle to set yourself free and don't whine because nobody else has been able to just blow sunshine up your skirt. The work is set before you. The problem is now known. It's time for everyone including you to get busy and find solutions.


      This is not a political movement. This is not a club. This is not a school where all the answers are known.


      And most of all, nobody here owes you anything at all. There is not another American anywhere who has spent decades of their lives researching and thinking about and actively investigating all this crap who owes you one iota. And if all the gurus disappoint you because nobody yet has any "sure fire easy answers" maybe you should just go back to sleep and wait for your ticket to a FEMA Camp.

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    2. Yes Jim Flemming....there are many different theories on how to successfully get out of this mess, but not near as many ways it can be used to make you rich.....everyday i get a new revelation about some new investment scheme that can make you as much as 8000-10000% profit from making just a small investment up front right now or before a certain date that is virtually guaranteed. But of course they never guarantee saying that nothing is ever 100% sure..!! Now i write back to these so called investment specialist and tell them why should i invest anything with you when all you ever offer is mere pennies compared to what is already owed to us which is about 1,000,000% profit and 100% guaranteed because its already been sanctioned by the POPE, the International Court of Hauge, and just about the entire world, including the United States..!! Instead of constantly offering me ways to make pennies on some new investment scheme, why dont you help me and everyone else on getting my momey, and everyone elses money back, which right now conservitivly estimated to be upwards of $4 quadtrillion dollars..and its 100% ledgidament and guaranteed, because its been proven now that the "international banking cartels" by their clever use of a banking scheme called "secured transactions" , by use of their private "commercial DEBT Instraments" , we ignorantly call money, have litterally stolen the wealth of the entire world and replaced it with worthless script paper...they are already in chap. 7 bankruptcy...complete liquidation for 3 years now..!! Go get our $4 quadtrillion dollars first, before you try getting me to invest in pennies for profit..Your company and all other so called experts in the field of " investment" secrets for retirement shows me that your whole answer to getting back what we all lost in this scheme is to work within or around it to make pennies of 8000% , when all you have to do is just get our money back from the theives that are resposible for keeping 99 % of people broke in the first place.. Instead of working within their own system or around it, why dont you just "DEMAND" all our money back right now...from the people resposible for creating this mess in the first place...the banks, London and QE2, the POPE, and ultimately the Rothchilds, all who have admitted or has been proven to be in violation of human rights laws , and refusing to return our money defiantly now for at least 3 years.. Your problem, and your entire field of "investment opportunities is based on the flawed theory that we are all "DEBTORS", When in reality we are the richest "Creditors" on the face of the earth...!! Go get our money and stop offering me pennies on investments you wont back 100%..when our $4 quadtrillion is guaranteed if you can force them legally to return it. If you dont believe me, just go to this site judge "Anna von Reitz.com" and witness all the evidence for it...otherwise stop offering me pennies when in reality all Americans are filthy rich..!!

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