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Wednesday, October 3, 2018

Did You Go to Law School or Legal School?


By Anna Von Reitz

If you went to Law School you learned that Law is an outgrowth of religion and ethics. 

If you went to Law School you learned the complete History of Law in the Western World from the time of the Ancient Babylonians and Hellenistic Greeks to the present day. 

If you went to Law School you learned all the various kinds of "Common Law" and the verbiage associated with them. 

If you went to Law School you learned about Lord Mansfield and the pollution of the British Common Law with Admiralty Law in the 1750's.

If you went to Law School you also learned how that development triggered violent debate and was one of the causes of the American Revolution.

If you went to Law School you learned how this corrupt form of British Common Law now practiced as Equity Law turned judges into proxies for the British King, allowing them to arbitrarily take the property of the British People (provided the King gets his cut, of course) and give it to the King's Cronies, including themselves under Color of Law.

And that is where "Law" separates from "Legal". 

If you went to Legal School this corrupt form of "Common Law" now practiced as "Equity Law" is what you were taught. 

If you went to Legal School this system making the Judges mini-sovereigns and reducing everyone else to serfs or slaves is all you were taught.

If you went to Legal School great emphasis was placed on finding supportive case law to excuse injustice and on procedure which could be used as another excuse to the same ends.

If you went to Legal School what you learned was how to corrupt and pervert actual Law and Justice so as to better serve the economic greed and political agendas of your masters.

If you went to Legal School as 95% of you did, while paying to go to Law School, you've been cheated. 

If you went to Legal School, you are only competent to "practice" Law. 

If you went to Legal School, something less then two percent (2%) of you ever receive a Certificate to execute actual Law, and then only in Admiralty Courts.

Actual Admiralty Courts.

If you went to Legal School you know virtually nothing about your own purported profession and less about the history of the world.  You've paid thousands of dollars for an education you didn't receive.

In fact, what you've been trained to do like donkeys in a treadmill, is to act as British Shipping Clerks.  That's what journeyman "non-certificated" attorneys are.  And all the supposedly great Law Schools in this country?  Subverted to that end by British Sympathizers who glutted at the King's Table on American bread and butter.

Harvard? Useless, politicized to a point of stupor.  Yale? Even worse, the home of economic barbarism practiced as a fine art and believed in without question. Stanford?  Shall I show you how many Stanford alumni have their names blazoned across Patent Applications that do nothing but destroy this planet and the people on it? 

The very basis of Law is Ethics, yet you have been taught none.  That has been the very furthest thing from your basic curriculum.

Your minds have been honed in self-interest and tricks and sneaky ways of doing things, semantic deceits, sophistry and its brand of logic, oh, all these things you have been taught ---- and not a thing about the actual Public Law or Justice. 

And all because the Kings and Queens of England wanted you to grow up and be little cogs in their version of Commercial Feudalism. 

How does it feel to be so completely, utterly duped?  Left so pathetically ignorant after spending what? -- $300,000.00 for a "Law" School education?

Even more to the point if you are an American --- how does it feel to be part of a gang of privateers pillaging and plundering public trusts, robbing your own people for the aggrandizement and unjust enrichment of foreign governments and evil Monarchs---living your lives as traitors to America and to Justice? 

Stealing "title" to babies? 

Have you no shame, no decency at all?  Not even a regard for your own necks?  

Wake up.  Sober up.  Realize just how far behind the curve you really are.  And also realize that there are penalties for ignorance of the Law -- that is, the actual Public Law. 

If you are acting as members of the Bar Associations, if you are participating as Officers of these Courts, you had better carefully check the facts and become familiar with the American Common Law, because that is the form of Law that the people of this country are owed. 

And you have no right in Heaven or on Earth to apply any other kind of law to them.  Not Statutory Law.  Not Talmudic Law.  Not Equity Law.  None of it.

Despite falsification of the Public Records to better grease the wheels of what amounts to a National Identity Theft and a mercenary crime of genocide on paper-- there are millions of us fed up with your ignorance and your activities on our soil. You are nothing but pirates acting in violation of our Treaty with Westminster and in violation of every principle of Justice.

The fact that you are nearly all too ignorant to realize it doesn't change a thing.

The penalty for inland piracy is death by firing squad, hanging, guillotine, or lethal injection.

Are you sure you wish to continue your membership in the Bar Associations?

If not, there remains one honorable option. 

You can tear up your Bar Cards and act as Counselors at Law and you can assist the millions of Americans who have been mis-addressed by the so-called Equity Courts operating under Color of Law--- and you can do your actual duty to Justice and to America by putting these other courts out of business.   

You can realize that just as other Americans have been defrauded, so have you been the victim of this same pernicious British Bunko.  Oh, yes, Bar Association Members, this fraud scheme is so mammoth it includes you, too.

You can learn how to re-establish your own standing as an American and help others re-establish their natural political status in the public records of these fifty nation-states as people and as American Persons, not as presumed-to-be British Territorial slaves.

Start by reading Brent Winter's The Excellence of the Common Law. That will start you on the Long Road Home to sanity and justice and the country you call home.

When you look back at how arrogant and stupid you were, thinking yourself and your fellow attorneys as so superior to everyone else, you may have cause to be embarrassed, but at least you will be an honest man or woman again. You will not be living in the shadow of the gallows or mindlessly betraying your countrymen for the sake of European greed.  

And considering the penalties involved otherwise, that is not a small recompense. 

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86 comments:

  1. Beautiful, Anna. I am sending this to two ignorant BAR attorneys I know who need a real education!

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    1. Chris, while you are in ''sending mode'' I suggest you also send it to your local public Defenders Office. And your local BAR Assn. And to your State Atty General.
      Since attorneys are not licensed or certified, I would think that anyone who wants to learn 'how to be a common law Justice'' should be able to do that. Why not. It should be an isolated Trade, just like an auto mechanic, etc. Specialize in one thing, or two.

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    2. Chris....I know some too I am going to send too...She really thinks in her pathetic mind she is so much better than the rest of us because she owns property and a whole lot of toys that came at someone's expense.....never hers....

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  2. I engage with attorneys on the air it's a blood bath thair favorite line "what are you talking about " I ask them do you know our country has turned into a big corperation ? And it's a blood bath.

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  3. Update on Form 843's: So I sent a few 843's to the IRS to the Office where I would ordinarily send a 1040. I did this back on the first week of July. It was just last week they finally responded saying ''they received them but needed an extra 60 days''.
    Then yesterday, I receive another single letter from them saying they had to send them to Utah because they were better able to handle my 843's.
    And that I should be hearing from THEM, (utah office) within another 60 days.
    So this now takes it from early July to early December. Then I bet they will send me some ''dear john letter''.....to which I will have to get out my ''hatchet'' and start a little fire under their butts, Lol.

    Now all that time frame does not include the couple of months or so that it took to gather the preliminaries from the Tax Court as attachments with the 843's.
    So if you all can't see how this stuff can take up your whole life IF you let it and that they just play with us, and that this is just all a delay tactic, then you need to think again, lol.

    So 1FREEMan, there's my ''test run'' for you.........IF you aren't in jail or something, where ya at? Just wondering.

    And so where are all you folks with your 843 stories?

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    1. And so where are all you folks with your 843 stories?

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  4. "More Evidence that America’s Law Schools and Governments Ignore or Dismiss Organic Law".

    "Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) joined a rally on the grounds of the Capitol on Wednesday staged by MoveOn.org, Planned Parenthood, and other left-wing groups to oppose Judge Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination to the United States Supreme Court and said the nominee does not believe constitutional rights apply to women.
    'He believes that your constitutional rights to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness is not enumerated in the Constitution if you’re a woman,' Gillibrand said. 'That you do not have access to reproductive care when you need it.' The phrase hails, in fact, from the Declaration of Independence."

    Professor Ed Rivera of the Organic Laws Institute writes: "Senator Gillibrand received her Juris Doctor Degree from the School of Law of the University of California at Los Angeles in 1991. After successfully passing the written bar examination of the State Bar Examiners, she was admitted to the State Bar of California in the same year. The Organic Laws of the United States of America were not a part of the curriculum during the time I attended UCLA Law School (1968 through 1971 when I graduated). The Organic Laws were, also, not subjects of the extensive bar examination.

    Sen. Gillibrand has shown by her remarks that the Organic Laws have remained absent at UCLA Law School. Her years in government service have not served to acquaint her with the contents of the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution of September 17, 1787. ...

    The education to be had at Harvard, Yale or UCLA Law Schools will fail the person seeking complete truth and all the law, because those institutions do not teach the Organic Laws of the United States of America. Only the Organic Laws Institute presents the evidence that proves the Organic Laws to be the basis of government and law in America. That evidence is found in the curriculum of the Basic Course in Law and Government." -
    Links Noted here:
    https://www.curezone.org/blogs/fm.asp?i=2265823
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  5. C.Johnson et al, question:
    as a independent contractor/non-US citizen private tradesman being requested to submit a certified W9 to a US Corp business, any thoughts you care to share to help myself and I'm sure many others, to complete this form without it creating any assumption of citizenship or being rejected by the company?
    Creating a new "lifestyle" vs making a living as a "subject" under US presumed authority and obligation is Where many of us are right now in our learning process, and I for one would love some insight from those that are working independently to shed more light on this topic. Anyone with personal knowledge and experience on this topic would be helpful dialog for many and would be a greatly appreciated and much needed learning experience, Thank you๐Ÿ˜€

    Much Gratitude, Love and Peace Be Now

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    1. Consider that the statutes [bylaws of a corporation in contradistinction to Statutes at Large] relate or apply only to 'person(s) and not to man. I presume it would be important to notice the company of that fact and that you are a man or private person, not a person in legal terminology, also sending a copy to IRS if you think that may be advisable. Check Black's Law Dictionary to dicover the distinction: see 'person' and 'private person'. Silence or filling out the form would likely exhibit a presumption you are a taxpayer, particularly if you have ever filed a 1040 in the past. There are two lives people live, one as a man and the other, due to ignorance, as a security for an entity, a fiction not in existence except in the mind of man, and there only by consent and agreement. I worked as a tradesman and independent entrepreneur from October, 1960 until my retirement.

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    2. Thank you Robert :)
      Using the statutory "person" and assigned "TIN" as our commercial "game piece" (and using our by line restricted sig) and any LLC's already registered in US created by our "person" once we've corrected the public record and taken control of ALL property and accounts accordingly, can be quite a juggling act. I'm personally leaning towards creating a few different private Trusts just to keep assets, property separated and protected. I've been my own boss for over 20 years with multiple streams of cashflow from multiple sources, public and private.
      Any additional insights or suggestions from personal experience for better protecting our in-come's and assets is greatly appreciated!

      Much Gratitude, Love and Peace Be Now

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    3. Kelli Miller:
      I was told years ago (by someone who helped others create foundations) that a foundation was an even better way to go, so you might want to check that out.

      Disclaimer: I know very little about trusts or foundations.

      Best wishes!

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    4. Yes, thank you Genevieve!! Definetly a wonderful alternative to consider and worth looking into/learning more about indeed!!

      Agreed E.T.Tishbite, and thank you too๐Ÿ˜Ž
      It is so time Now to unite & Empower each other to start creating our lives and lifestyles on a higher playing field from Now on! No more playing small. Time to Go Big Now and Win this "game of life" because we can!!!
      Much Gratitude, Love and Peace Be Now for All

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    5. Kelli, I was just told you asked me a question, so I came over her to find it and answer. I am not a sub of this forum anymore, as I am so business with other things, regarding the system. But, here it is in answer to your question...I have explained this before somewhere on this blog and to e.t. tishbite. There are 3 IDENTITIES. This absolutely must be understood, because it is the foundation stone for the entire system. You must understand those 3 identities and take control of them. Most people are attempting to make use of the system, and have no clue what they are doing, because they do not understand they have 3 identities and those identities are the system. Everyone has them. It all comes back to US TITLE 8. This is why I refer everyone to that title. (Genevieve...I have already explained this to you, too). The first IDENTITY is the LIVING SOUL, created in the womb by God. That body is the vehicle, vessel the LS travels in....that body is the NATURAL INDIVIDUAL (if you study the law you will see INDIVIDUAL used a lot). They are talking about the body....the natural flesh and blood body. That's the vessel...that's the vehicle. That's the natural PERSON. LET ME STOP THERE FOR A MOMENT. NEVER EVER BEGIN TO THINK NATURAL PERSON is one of the People. It is a legal fiction. It is a body without a LIVING SOUL...in legal technical TERMS. Now, to continue. So the first ID is the LS...the second ID is the Natural Individual (person, human being without the LS and then we have the 3 IDENTITY the U.S.CITIZEN (legal person fiction). That identity is nothing more and nothing less that a signature on paper, a name on a record, a file in a filing cabinet, a mis-constructed name on a driver's license or a marriage license of whatever license. It is not a NATURAL INDIVIDUAL....IT IS NOT A LIVING SOUL. It is a RECORD OF THE NATURAL INDIVIDUAL. The natural individual creates that record by signature. The natural individual is the creator and signatory of and for the record given the legal title of: LEGAL PERSON or LEGAL NAME. If you get what I have just posted, follow below to the next post.

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    6. cont. OK THAT'S THE THREE IDENTITIES: the LS is the American State National (several State). It (according to the system) only lived by its NATIVITY from the womb and on the land for a few days. Then a death certificate was issued to it, by mom's signature on the application. Thus ended its nativity on the land. So mom, by the application received the death certificate and by that death certificate turned the body over to the state, to state custody. The DEATH certificate is the CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH. The LEGAL birth (UN-natural-without a womb) occurred by the process that began with the application and the signature. That's when the LS (AMERICAN STATE NATIONAL) was separated from the body and the body became the NATURAL INDIVIDUAL and that individual was re-titled as a NATIONAL and was given a secondary citizen. Those two citizenships are both in play.NATIONAL AND U.S. CITIZEN. Now, it is mandatory in law for a U.S. CITIZEN to have SS# or EIN. It is not mandatory for a NATIONAL. It is not illegal for the National to possess an SS# OR EIN. Why? because they have dual citizenship. There are times the National may want to work in DC or the territories like Puerto Rico. If they do, they can use that ss# and Ein. But, if they don't want to do that, then they don't have to use the ss# or ein. Remember these numbers are benefit privileges to a National, they are mandatory for U.S. CITIZENS. When the National wants to use an ss# or Ein# when not working in the U.S., they can do that, too. When they use it outside the U.S. it is private trade and not public. When they use those numbers within the U.S. it is public and not private. So what can the NATURAL INDIVIDUAL do? They can get a ss# or ein# and use it strictly public and agree for it to be public and pay all the income taxes they want. Or they can determine the difference between private and public uses of those numbers and use them either for the partial or full year as private. If they use it as a partial year as private, then they have to pay a partial years taxes. But, for certain, if that ss# or ein# has been used by the Natural Individual to pay for their own SS retirement, they can legally go back and get that retirement for the years they willing paid into it. But, the natural person/individual must determine, am I really doing private or public stuff. The SS# AND ein# CAN BE EITHER PRIVATE OR PUBLIC. The question is what does the record say. My record (MY LEGAL PERSON) has been changed in the public records with the federal govt. to show private and unincorporated. I changed my legal person in the files at every location I could think of...from public to private. ITS ON AND FOR THE RECORD. Anyone who claims INCOME taxes are illegal is nuts. INCOME taxes are legal. But, only U.S. Citizens have to pay INCOME taxes for INCOME EARNED WITHIN THE U.S. That is the law. And anyone who works in the U.S. and earns 'INCOME' FROM ANY U.S. SOURCE, is a U.S. CITIZEN/PERSON. What is INCOME AND WHAT IS THE U.S.?

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    7. THINK ABOUT THE 3 IDENTITIES. The U.S. CITIZENSHIP is only an on paper identity. That is the legal person the 3rd identity. What does your paper trail say...LET THE RECORD SHOW.....!

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    8. The 990 comments so far in this video suggest u may be mistaken on the legality of income taxes CJ.

      Not that I would so foolish yet to not give it to their private credit scheme...

      Irs Commandant says income taxes voluntary in 2013 with 283k views
      https://youtu.be/XNICz9CZOgw

      From one comment therein^

      https://givemeliberty.org/features/taxes/notratified.htm

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    9. Orherwise absolutely LOVE the 3 identities above discourse CJ๐Ÿ’“

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    10. Leland...its not because I am wrong...it because you don't understand the 3 identities and how to use them. When you fully understand only one of those identities is a U.S. CITIZEN/PERSON and the other 2 are not. And you fully understand, how to 'MAKE USE OF' all 3 identities and the distinction made in law and EQUITY REGARDING THEM. Then you will know the truth. I don't give a gnats behind about 990 comments. SO! When someone is right...it doesn't matter who opposes the truth or how often its opposed. But, and here's the great thing about being in a REPUBLIC and not a democracy...majority rule....doesn't matter. Everyone gets to choose for themselves. So choose, today, whom ye shall follow?
      Ps. Leland, I have one question for you: did you 'EARN' any 'INCOME' in the 'U.S.' last year as a 'U.S. CITIZEN'? BE CAREFUL HOW YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION! Take Care! Oh and just one more question...if you ALLEGE....that you...EARNED INCOME....which identity earned it? Oh and just one more question....are you sure you EARNED INCOME? Oh sorry...just one more question....are you absolutely certain IT WAS in the U.S.? I mean I don't know...because I don't know you! DAT GUM...I have one more question....almost forgot....are you assuming everyone on the land of America has to pay taxes or are you assuming no one on the land of America has to pay taxes? Is it possible both of those assumptions are wrong? Is it possible...just maybe the tax laws are both lawful (Constitution) and legal (acts of Congress)? Is it possible, even though they are both lawful and legal, there are exceptions? And if exceptions to the lawful and legal tax laws and statutes exist, do you know what the exemptions are? I MEAN I AM ONLY ASKING! FYI...MAYBE THE PEOPLE ARE ATTEMPTING TO PROVE THE TAX LAWS ARE UNLAWFUL AND ILLEGAL, AND MAYBE THE PEOPLE WHO MADE 990 COMMENTS ARE WRONG. Maybe those people don't know the truth and maybe they don't know about the 3 identities. Maybe is they knew about the 3 identities, they would understand, what's what and whose who and they would be able to understand to whom the lawful and legal taxes laws and statutes apply. HEY..JUST ONE FINAL QUESTION... DID YOU SEE THE COURT CASE I POSTED IN THESE COMMENTS TO E.T....Hale v. Henkel, 201 U.S. 43 (1906)? Did you read it and digest what it said? GET IT LELAND...YOUR FREEDOM DEPENDS ON IT! THE 99O COMMENTS...OH WELL...WHO CARES? I LIKE HOW THE ARTICLE 3 COURT PUT IT IN THAT RULING. Leland....that is what you absolutely without a doubt need to know and understand and fully comprehend.

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    11. Leland...man, I apologize but the questions just keep coming....in that article 3 court ruling....do you see the thing about opening up the books? Do you know if books are RECORDS? Do you see in that court ruling about the individual? Whose the individual that doesn't have to open the books? Whose the individual that has the Constitutional right to not open the books? What books does that individual have the right to not open? SO MUCH INFORMATION AND SOME LITTLE TIME! Pertinent questions? I THINK SO!

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    12. I agree CJ๐Ÿ’“ in general.

      However, since I am quite a fan of the original 13th amendment....I get the immense fraud - before & since then since I am quite a fan of Frank O'Connor as well & read his history lessons throughly. Of course u have pointed out more directions to pursue via the 3 identities listed @ least if one's current body is born on American soil.

      Since ultimately I am Soul, I will grow in understanding how to use that 3 identities information to my benefit as I move fwd while still on earth๐ŸŽถ

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    13. Leland...since you brought up the Constitution...you can find all three in the Constitution. The LS is the People in the Pre-Amble. The Natural Individual the Bill of Rights. The U.S. CITIZEN the 14th Amendment. The LS is the one with unalienable rights. The Natural Individual is the one with rights secured by the Constitution. The U.S. CITIZEN is the subject/slave/servant of the government and to all the government whims. The Bill of Rights limited the rights of the LS. The Constitution did not give anything to the People of the Pre-Amble, it limited them. The Bill of Rights allows govt, limited jurisdiction over the People. The 14th and 16th Amendment caused the stipulation of the willing consent to be governed thing. Before the ink was dry on the paper (Constitution) the bill of rights was added. Until then they People were exempt totally from any fed. govt. rule. They had unalienable rights, not secured rights by the Constitution. That changed when the Bill of Rights when added. Now, if you understand the 3 identities and the authority and power or lack thereof of each, then you will see it's not about the 13th amendment at all. It's about the People returning to the Pre-Amble. In the Pre-Amble....who are the People who came together to form a more perfect union? Where did said People originally organize, in order to create a MORE (second union) and did they dissolve their first union when that second one was created? Or is the first union still in tact? And that second union, isn't that formed by the Constitution, which includes your 13th amendment of which you are a fan? Ok if the first and second union are still intact, then why are you a fan of the 13th amendment? I mean follow the paper trail. Remember what I said: the entire system if a paper trail? Do you know about EX POST FACTO AND BILLS OF ATTAINDER (Constitutional provisions)? Did the People by the BILL OF RIGHTS or ANY AMENDMENTS surrender any rights (UNALIENABLE) to the federal government? Can you prove it? Read the 14th amendment....anywhere in it can you find that new Citizen, that was created...to be the PEOPLE? Read the 16th Amendment, anywhere in it, was rights given to the govt to tax the People? What has the article 3 courts, ruled again and again about taxing the People? The court case I told you to get a hold of, what did it say ( Hale v. Henkel, 201 U.S. 43 [1906])about taxing the People? Why in US title 8 did the govt, in its Congressional Act specify/make a distinction between a National and U.S. CITIZEN and state in that act we have DUAL (TWO) CITIZENSHIPS? If they have power over the People, then why in the heck did they have to specify to separate jurisdictions in their legislative act? WHY? WHY? WHY? And why in other legislation to they use the name: the several States and in other legislation they don't use the that name? Did you know 'the several States' is the name of something and the Article 3 Courts have forbidden Congress, when passing laws from using that name, unless they use it in the context of Constitutional mandates? Did you know that if they are passing laws without Constitution mandates, they use the same the United States? Did you know the United States as defined by the Constitution is DC and the territories and the enclaves and the limited jurisdiction within the several States and the name of the United States is actually the federal govt? Did you know the several States, gave the federal govt a name and that name was given to it by the Constitution and its name is 'the United States? Did you know, land was ceded to it by a couple of the several States, where the United States now exists and that land that was ceded is no longer a part of the several States or the nation of those several States? Did you know that land mass is

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    14. an entirely separate nation from the nation of several States? Did you know, in International law, that land mass is known as a NATION STATE, A STATE AMONG (NOT PART OF) STATES? Did you know in international law, that nation state, is among 50 other nation States, known as the several States? Did you know the several States are 50 individual nation States, and those nation States are sovereigns of the one that is among them? Did you know the People of the several States, are sovereign to their individual several States, which makes them sovereign to the nation state that is among the several States? Now, do you see why no democracy exists? the only democracy is the nation state among the states....the federal govt.! The 50 nation States, are not a democracy. They are individual, sovereign, several States Republics and they are not the United States. The United States is the name of the federal government and it was given to it by the Constitution. That is why the dual citizenship, that is why the distinctions in law and equity. That is why, it is forbidden for the U.S. in its laws to use the name 'the several States' without the use of the Constitutional mandates. That is why the federal govt, continues to call its self a democracy. That nation state among nation States is a democracy. It is not a republic. The 50 individual Republics are the several (many/50 of them to be exact) States. Texas is a several state, Tennessee is a several State, South Carolina is a several State, etc...as one group they are the several States, that is their lawful and legal name. That is the only name Congress can use to identify them in its legislation. When it uses the TERM THE UNITED STATES, it is not directing the legislation to the several STATES, it is making laws for its own nation (its self).

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    15. Ps....Anna has been telling everyone to take back their identities as the People of the several States (American States) and to reform the de jure governments of those Nation State republics. I hope everyone will understand, that is exactly what needs to be done. read this and pay attention to CUMMINGS VS MISSOURI https://www.britannica.com/topic/ex-post-facto-law THE NATION STATES (ALL 50 OF THEM) AWAIT YOUR REHABITATION! No law passed by the UNITED STATES, can prohibit the several States and the People of those States from assuming their rightful place in law (the paper trail). Its all still their...waiting on you!

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    16. BRILLIANT ๐Ÿ’“☇♩๐ŸŽค

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    17. LELAND....DID YOU KNOW...about the boundary stones around the United States? https://99percentinvisible.org/article/boundary-stones-d-c-oldest-national-monuments-united-states/ and
      check out this image http://constitutionalcommando.com/jurisdiction-of-the-united-states/
      THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DUPED...The jurisdiction of the United States is behind those stones. When you go into that jurisdiction, you are in another nation. A nation among nations (50 of them/the several States). Maybe it times to refurbish those stones and push that jurisdiction back behind the stones again.

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    18. Actually CF - I knew about those boundaries stones years ago & those were once favorite posts of mine to repost on Facebook in my 3 different name accounts therein for years. I still have those accounts, but not visited them since Trump & I had a falling out in Q chat room/board therein (via dream over my continuous exposures of ISRAEL/Mossad & u can probably guess the other๐Ÿ•†) So I quit Facebook for now...probably forever & focused more on this fascinating topic to me anyway of our 3 identities๐ŸŽท

      Thank u, though, for taking the time to further our education as I will as well in my strong areas♩

      God is love๐Ÿ’“

      1757: VIRGINIA. That impeccably honest lover of democracy, George Washington, begins a great American tradition, buying elections. Running for election to the Virginia House of Burgesses, Washington buys off every one of the 390 electors in his district with one and a half quarts of liquor.  http://mtwsfh.blogspot.com/

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    19. george washington was a british loyalist who turned over all the men in his regiment, to the british and they were all shot for treason against britain. he also as president set up the district states in the republics, so the federal govt to extend its jurisdiction. He was a traitor.

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    20. WITH ALL the info in these comments about WHAT'S ON THE RECORD. Listen to this...about the RECORD! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qETQFmM8nhU

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    21. HERE are some 'LEGAL TERMS' to log into your brains:

      CITIZENS: not one of the People. Never call yourself a citizen. A citizen is a ROMAN CIVIL LAW SUBJECT. Take note of your LEGAL dual nationality and citizenship: Your Primary/Supreme Status is National. Note National is not a citizenship. The TERM is not NATIONAL CITIZEN. The TERM used in legislative acts is National minus the citizenship. You are not a citizen of the Nation of several States nor are you a citizen of a several State. You OFFICIAL LEGAL TITLE is One of the People of the several States. Never, never, never admit, imply or say or act as if you are a citizen. Do not let that STATUS be assumed about you. Subjects of legislative and congressional acts and administrative laws, rules, and regulations. subject/slaves.

      RIGHTS: unalienable is the rights of Living Souls these rights cannot be removed by government. secured rights is the rights of Nationals and under limited circumstances can be removed by government. Civil or human rights given by, controlled by and can be fully taken away by the govt. and given to Citizens.

      HUMAN, INDIVIDUAL, NATURAL BORN, HUMAN BEING: all four are created titles and are used to make distinctions (in LEGAL) to something other than the Living Soul. This is the flesh and blood body absent the Living Soul. HU-man means a homo-sapiens, a species, less than a divine creation, something that direction, regulation, rules. HU-man is the level of the animals and is simply another species of animal. A pack (democracy) animal. Unable to think for its self. Runs with the pack. A male or female of a pack. a non-man or woman or baby. Hominids of the species Homo sapiens, which are a primate species of mammal with a highly developed brain. a person legally. NOT ONE OF THE PEOPLE. a thing that is not a man or woman or baby and is not fully a legal person, it is a cross breed. It is a man, woman or baby BEING something. anything other than themselves.

      PEOPLE: man, woman, baby. Non-LEGALS or without the jurisdiction of LEGAL. God created. Divine. Living Souls.

      BIRTH OR BORN: non-natural, non-womb appearance on the land. un-natural means of arrival on the land. achieved by a conveyance by the govt of a document to a recipient (human being or a citizen).

      NATIVITY: creation by God of a man, woman, or baby. Began in the womb and was terminated LEGAL (not lawfully) by moms’ signature on an application for a certificate.

      LAWFUL: God's law of loving God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength and loving your neighbor as yourself. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

      LEGAL: government, man's laws, statutory, regulatory and rules.
      NOTE: check out this link. Can you understand why these posters are so confused? They are trying to figure out the person and individual and are confused and got understand it. Why because they do not know about the 3 identities. They are trying to understand how the LEGAL TERMS apply and to separate them but they don’t know how. The missing key for them to understand, is the 3 identities. They are seeing it and know somewhere a distinction if being made, but they can’t find the distinctions, because they lack the key. If they knew about the 3 identities: they would know what a person and an individual and a corporation is and would be able to understand the statutes. Do you see their confusion? https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/17667/meaning-of-the-word-person-and-individual-under-u-s-law

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    22. EDIT TO ABOVE HU-MAN: SOMETHING THAT NEEDS DIRECTIONS, REGULATIONS AND RULES AND NOT SELF GOVERNING. NEEDS GOVERNANCE OUTSIDE OF ITS SELF AND THE CREATOR.... IS DEFINED AS... MALE/FEMALE/PERSON/PERSONS/INFANT/FETUS.

      EDIT TO ABOVE PEOPLE: CREATOR AND SELF GOVERNING BY THE LAWS OF THE CREATOR. NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH.... PERSON/PERSONS/INFANT/FETUS/MALE OR FEMALE.

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  6. I found the "Organic Laws" hiding at the very beginning of The United States. The Declaration of Independence for the united States of America, The Articles of Confederation, The Northwest Ordinance, and the Constitution. After that it is Acts and the Organic Laws are real hard to find or were a couple years ago. Brent Winters book, Excellence of the Common Law should be read most likely the first thing in any law school or or that matter any school period. What is documented there answered many questions for me and the bigger picture becomes much clearer once one knows. I did not go to high school but did attend a college when older and learned to research but did find they do not teach any of the truths in high school that should be primary in any student of life. Without a good foundation structures mental or otherwise tend to fall of center eventually even break altogether.

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  7. Great question Kelli. Many need this exact info. Thanks

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    1. AIRCARVINGS....THE ORGANIC LAWS are the de jure laws of our country. They are the Supreme Law of the Land. Let me tell you this. Legislative (State) and Congressional (Acts) can not override those laws. Even the inorganic Constitution is subservient. American Jurisprudence is the Superior (non-inferior) court rulings. Those rulings per the Constitution, suspend legislation and congressional acts. The People (Living Souls) need to study American Jurisprudence and stop studying legislative and Congressional acts. American Jurisprudence (Constitution and Superior Court Rulings) are the Supreme Law of the Land (Common Law). Here are two Supreme Laws of the Land, the Law of the People (non-persons) and the several States (50 republics): (EVERYONE NEEDS TO SOAK UP THESE 2 LAWS)...

      I. Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 426, 491; 86 S. Ct. 1603 "Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no 'rule making' or 'legislation' which would abrogate them."

      II. Hale v. Henkel, 201 U.S. 43 (1906) "There is a clear distinction between an individual and a corporation, and the latter, being a creature of the State, has not the constitutional right to refuse to submit its books and papers for an examination at the suit of the State.” "The individual may stand upon his constitutional rights as a citizen. He is entitled to carry on his private business in his own way. His power to contract is unlimited. He owes no duty to the State or to his neighbors to divulge his business, or to open his doors to an investigation, so far as it may tend to criminate [sic] him. He owes no such duty to the State, since he receives nothing therefrom beyond the protection of his life and property. His rights are such as existed by the law of the land long antecedent to the organization of the State, and can only be taken from him by due process of law, and in accordance with the Constitution. Among his rights are a refusal to incriminate himself and the immunity of himself and his property from arrest or seizure except under a warrant of the law. He owes nothing to the public so long as he does not trespass upon their rights."

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    2. YOU WERE BIRTHED, BY UN-NATURAL (NON-WOMB) MEANS ON PAPER AS A U.S. CITIZEN. That citizen was bestowed on you by the queen of England by paper issued by her govt (U.S.). As her subjects and her decrees you are ruled by her officials and subjects, by paper. That citizenship was conveyed to you by application to be her subject. It's time the People of America, take control of their own paper.

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  8. C. Johnson, you say you have changed your status w/everyone you could think of. How do you know "they" actually recognize what you have sent "them"? Did you get some form of notification that "they" made the required changes in "their" system? How does one know if "their" system/records have been changed/updated to your correct status? This is so important to us all. Thank you for your response.

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  9. C Johnson, the issue for us all seems to be how to "properly" give notice of our status to the U.S. Inc. it agencies and agents that they will actually recognize and change our status throughout "their" entire system(s). Anna has provided one way she says works to correct our status, but I cannot find anyone that can say her process actually works. Would you share your method w/us? Is there a approved method of proper notification of status correction provided in American Jurisprudence? We all need to find a way to correct our status that actually works. We could use your help. Thank you.

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    1. John henry Dough....first off...I have received confirmation of the change of my records. I received notice from IRS for example, my ein is private unincorporated. It states it right on the notice. They also gave me a special address to write when I have questions. I can not call them. My records are now private and they will not talk to me about it on the phone why? PRIVACY ACT OF 1976. I have a right to privacy of my records and I have exercised it. I am not a corporation. a corporation has no right to privacy. Hale v. Henkel, 201 U.S. 43 (1906)
      But, here's the real issue. EXCULPATORY EVIDENCE. That's the issue.
      Example: you get a traffic ticket. you go to court. you attempt to come up with all types of schemes to not pay the ticket. you lose or go to jail. why? Because you lack exculpatory evidence of who you are. The only thing you have is your driver's license and whatever comes out of your mouth.
      LET THE RECORD SHOW and CONTINUE TO SHOW: you word means nothing in a paper system. The only thing that means anything in the paper system is your signature on paper.
      If you don't want to put your name on paper and change the record, then oh well. That is your choice. LET THE RECORD STAND.
      John, if you will not understand the 3rd identity and what it is, then you can never take control of it or be free. Now, if you don't want to do Anna's paperwork, then don't. But, with all certainty your name is on paper some where. And that name on paper has your signature somewhere on that paper. So because of that situation, you are assumed now to be a U.S. CITIZEN and you because you have not changed the record....the legal person...the signature on the paper....then you got nothing. I have been telling people to make good contracts. I have been telling people their signature on the paper is the legal person...the legal name...it is the U.S. CITIZEN. U.S. Citizenship is not an actual citizenship. It is a paper thing. So John...its now up to you. Leave your record as it is or change it. That record is yours, it belongs to you. Either you change the record or you don't. But, if you think while that record stands as it is, that you can claim AMERICAN RIGHTS, you are wrong. Nothing that comes out of your mouth will defend you in any court. Your mouth can not defend you. Its a paper system. If there is no paper, then oh well. The entire system is nothing but a big enormous huge paper trail. What does the paper trail concerning you say? what do you want it to say? Honestly, I don't give a rip what people say about Anna's paperwork not working. Do you have any evidence that it doesn't? John THINK! Understand what has happened, how it happened, what is happening and what is going to happen. You legal person (3rd id) is in the data base of govt agencies. What are you going to do about it?

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  10. Ok...let me say this to everyone and I pray you will understand. Imagine this: next time you go to court, before you get there, duct tape your mouth shut. Then go into court and try to defend yourself against their charges. You can't. You are set to lose. Well, here is the truth...the absolute truth....that is how they look at it. They look at it as if your mouth is taped up. Nothing you say matters. You are the ward of their system. You have been ruled dead by the certificate of live birth....that is what the record shows. You have been in that capacity since a few days after your nativity. a dead person can not speak to anyone, they are dead. Your flesh and blood body was surrendered to the state by your mother's signature on paper. She also surrendered the use of your name to them. All of this was on paper. So if you think they are going to hear you when you go to court, you are wrong. They don't hear anything you say, as it comes out of your mouth. that's why they appoint a representative for you, if you have not appointed one (your 2nd identity/your POA). You can not represent yourself if you are dead, so someone else has to represent you. If you have not appointed a representative for yourself, then you are a ward of the court and at their mercy and they have no mercy. So, stop trying to figure out what to say in court. You are only wasting your time. period and end of story. The only thing they can receive from you is a signature on paper....on the record. That's it. Your signature on paper, is the only way they can deal with you at all. Because it requires your signature on paper to give them jurisdiction and your signature on paper that can revoke jurisdiction. They don't give a rip what you say...it is totally ignored. the only thing that matters is what is on the record and they will tell you in open court....LET THE RECORD SHOW....LET THE RECORD STAND. it's the record...its always been the record and what the record shows is the only thing that matters. BLAH, BLAH, BLAH MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Matter of fact the more you talk....the more they know you don't know what you are doing and they begin assuming your theirs. Most people, blah, blah, blah the entire time they are in court, because they think they are going to convince the court of something. LOL....THAT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN!

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    2. Ps. to the above comment. The absolute only way and only possibility you have to ever be free from the system is to change the record. To take authority over that record. to be the authority over the record. and to challenge their authority to make any changes or do anything to the record. its the record that is the legal person. They want to control it and use it for their benefit. They want and NEED to be in control of what THE RECORD SHOWS. The record is their jurisdiction. Again it is your 3rd identity, it is the legal person (fiction, not natural). It either proves or disproves (EXCULPATORY EVIDENCE) you are a U.S. CITIZEN. And whatever the record shows...all your procedures and all your BLAH BLAH BLAH in court, won't change things. Either you are the authority over the record or you are not. But that record is your dual citizenship that you were given by Cert. of Live Birth.

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    3. Thank You, Thank you, thank you C.Johnson!!!! You and your insightful explanations have been truly missed!! ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ’–You have a beautiful gift of expressing and no-nonsense way of thoroughly getting to the meat of this vital life/mind changing topic and your input IS priceless for so many Now!! I realize you have shared much of this before.. But This writing IS amazing and should Be saved on everyone's computers or phone downloads to fall back on in times of "cognitive dissonance" moments taking over, as it does and to tap back into for much needed grounding!! The struggle and juggle IS real as we continue to evolve and become more In balance within and in our world. You, and many others that do and have contributed in service to All on this and other blocks, comment sections are a priceless and necessary gift for All, Thank you๐Ÿ˜ many wonderful insight filled contributors are always needed Now to inspire and help empower each other towards our individual and unified collective desires of True Peace, Love and harmony Now๐Ÿ˜™
      This writing is now saved safely! Thank you again for your time and patience in explaining once again.

      Much Gratitude, Love and Peace Be for All Now

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    4. C. Johnson: I agree wholeheartedly with Kelli Miller that "you have a beautiful gift of expressing and no-nonsense way of thoroughly getting to the meat...and your input IS priceless." Thank you for showing up here again. (And again? [I ask hopefully].)

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    5. Kelli and Genevieve...because of the absolutely real relationship I have with Christ...I can bluntly share these things with you. It is him who led me on this journey and has taught me and revealed how to cut through the crap and reveal the foundation stones of the system. He freely revealed these things to me....freely I give. Hopefully, what you see, it your own authority and that your right to that authority still exists. Hopefully it will help you see what you must do for yourselves, if you are going to live free. If this happens then the will of a powerful savior and my Lord, is being met and I truly am glorifying him on this Earth, in this hour as he has called me. LET THERE BE LIGHT!

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    6. Staying True to ourselves and True to our Now corrected public/private Records IS our own responsibility to maintain and keep any New records we create IN complete alignment With our Now Corrected Records/Standing. Nothing more, nothing less. Mind our own Creations accordingly, respectfully at all times Now and moving forward. Its All Good!!

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    7. Kelli, there you go. Now, how you do that, is up to you. What you do with your own record is up to you. Understand the 3 identities, what they are and how to use them. Understand how the system makes a distinction between them and you will be a long way down the road, to living as the authority, which you are now, have always been and can return to for your future. Learn American Jurisprudence and stand! Go get'em!

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    8. AND IT IS ONLY THRU JC that CJ suggests (& anyone ELSE) can there be light๐Ÿ•†

      Of course, that is not so whatsoever, but CJ u r awesome๐Ÿ–’

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    9. Leland, I am sorry for you where Christ is concerned. If I am awesome, its because of Christ in me, my hope of glory. Other than that...there is no good thing in me!

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    10. DEAR CJ, 'I am sorry for u where ๐Ÿ•‡ is concerned '๐Ÿ˜…

      https://www.amazon.com/Worlds-Sixteen-Crucified-Saviors-Christianity/dp/1585090182

      Free in pdf, too, & written in 1876 with almost 400 pages of research to plow thru if interested ๐ŸŽถ

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  11. Anna is right....the common law the legal system uses is English (monarchy) common law....ruled by Britain. It is not American Common Law. It is equity at its finest! Equity law is not the law of the American people. Anyone who teaches you how to do equity is teaching you how to stay a subject to the monarchy.

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  12. Thank you CJ for stopping in again and depositing your all-ways precious, elucidating comments. Keeping up with your youtube channel, too. Thank you. Peace.

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    1. Thanks RA....I only drop youtube videos who inspired. As you can tell that doesn't happen often. I am posting more often on the NATIONAL ASSEMBLY forum, as South Carolina Coordinator. I am right now doing stuff behind the scenes to expose 3 State of SC officials. Got through a writing process right now, notices and forever hold your peace kinda thing. This is for the People of South Carolina. So much work so little time. Live free!

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  13. C. Johnson, I tried to find you on YouTube. What is your YouTube channel called if you don't mind sharing. An thank you for your input on correcting the record. I guess I am not sure how much needs to be said to the record holders, the paper system guys? Do I write letters saying "Hey take note, I am not a U.S. citizen". I have never been one. Any and all of your records that have me listed as one are in error. Any and all "alleged" contracts you think you have were induced through fraud and are voidable and I hereby void them all. Please correct your record to show that I am a state Citizen and have nothing to do with the U.S. Inc. Something like that or does it need to be vastly more detailed? Your input is greatly appreciated.

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    1. John Henry Dough here's my youtube, but I don't do much on it. I only have 2 videos right now. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJYT82BW9tFV_ov9OPK2TOw?view_as=subscriber

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    2. John Henry Dough I do not tell people how to change their own records. I have absolutely no procedures to give you. If I had procedures I would not give them to you. Here's why....You absolutely must study and learn how to do these things for yourself. I will point you where you need to study. If you learn it, you won't need anyone else's procedures. I have said many times on this forum....this is all CONTRACTS. I have said you have been doing contracts your entire life. You have been using your signature since the time you were able to sign your name. I have been saying contracts are this simple: you go to the store and buy a gallon of milk. You get the receipt for the milk. You take the milk home and its sour. You take the milk and the receipt back to the store and either get another gallon of milk or your money back. Why were you able to get the gallon of milk or your money back? Because you had an implied CONTRACT. Now, did you and the store owner set down and write an actual contract, writing out all the terms and conditions for purchasing a gallon of milk? NO! But, the terms and conditions were 'IMPLIED'! It was implied that you would exchange money for milk and it would be an even and fair exchange and if it wasn't an even and fair exchange, you could get your money back. Well, if the milk is sour and you paid full price, then is that an even and fair exchange? No! So because you have proof of the implied contract (the receipt), you could take your receipt and go back to the one who contracted with you, to get an even and fair exchange! IMPLIED CONTRACTS....ARE JUST AS BINDING AS WRITTEN CONTRACTS. All contracts have terms and conditions, whether those contracts are: VERBAL, WRITTEN OR IMPLIED. The term and conditions of all contracts are: even and fair exchange. THINK...what is EQUITY LAW? It is the law of business or trade (EXCHANGE). In all contracts that EXCHANGE must be equitable (even and fair). If it is not equitable, if a party of the contract lied or committed fraud or used threats or duress to make or force a contract, then the laws of EQUITY are violated. There is not a person who ever ordered anything online or from a store that does not understand, the receipt is proof of their right to demand equitable service or products for their EXCHANGE (trade). So what is EQUITY LAW based on? willing agreements to even and fair trade for goods or services. See me below in the next comment...to be continued.

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    3. Con’t…. Now, here's some contracts the Constitution [federal] and the Constitutions [states]. John have your ever read them? Do you even know what they say? Do you know the court rulings about them? did you know the court rulings about Constitutional matters can only be resolved in ARTICLE 3 COURTS? Did you know the STATE OF STATE COURTS are ARTICLE 1 COURTS and are subservient to ARTICLE 3 courts? Did you know the ARTICLE 3 COURT rulings are known as AMERICAN JURISPRUDENCE? Did you know American Jurisprudence is Common Law? Did you know Common Law is the Supreme Law of the Land? Did you know Article 1 courts only practice EQUITY...because Common Law is reserved to the People and the de jure States (REPUBLIC) and the federal district courts (STATE OF STATES) cannot make use of such law because those courts are federal commercial courts and because they are federal they cannot use the law of the de jure States? Did you know unless the People are operating in commercial trade, they should not be in those courts? Did you know for them to be in those courts and not be operating in commercial trade, is a violation of the contracts [Constitutional]? Do you know if you are involved in commercial trade you must be a registered: owner, operator, agent, principal, employer or employee [of your own registered company]? Did you know the term employee is mis-used by millions upon millions of Americans, because of the fact they did not employ themselves with their own registered company? Do you know what happens when contracts are fraud? Do you know what happens when contracts are not equitable or processed pursuant to EQUITY LAW? Do you know what happens to persons/parties who attempt to violate EQUITY LAW CONTRACTS in enforcement, implementation of its conditions and terms? Do you know the ARTICLE 3 court known as the U.S. SUPREME COURT said this, is part of the contract: Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 426, 491; 86 S. Ct. 1603 "Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no 'rule making' or 'legislation' which would abrogate them."? Did you know all equity courts are subservient to that ARTICLE 3 COURT LAW, BECAUSE THAT LAW IS COMMON LAW AND COMMON LAW IS THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND? Do you know where fraud is found, EQUITY IS VIOLATED and is a crime? Do you know every law written is only terms and conditions of the contracts [constitutional], but those terms and conditions cannot violate the contracts, but must be in alignment with the contracts? Do you know, if one part of the contract is violated the entire contract is null and void? Do you know any public official who wants to claim the Constitution is null and void? Do you know any judge, police officer, lawyer who wants to claim the constitution is null and void? THINK JOHN! If you have not read the SUPREME LAW of the LAND, then don't waste your time on the legislative and congressional acts (terms and conditions)! Those terms and conditions cannot violate the contract! I know the contract and I know who has the power to it! Do you? I know what equity law is and I know what it is not. I know where equity law applies and I know where it doesn’t! I know what Common Law is and how it applies and how it holds equity law captive. This is for certain…do not try to use common law in an equity court, because they have absolutely no power to use it within the equity court system, being the equity court system is article 1. If you want to use common law, you must be in the article 3 courts. Article 1 are restricted to legislative acts, regs and rules, that is all they get to do! If you are not operating in equity, why would you be in that court? The problem is John..people do not understand the contract, nor do they understand there are different types of courts and laws.

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    4. based on my above 2 comments: Image this: being in an equity court and asking the judge, is the Constitution null and void? Then asking the prosecutor for the docs for the registered corporation? If you have understood what I just posted, you would understand the powerful implications of those two comments! Image going in with the documents and bible and bc and laying them all out just like Anna has said and asking those two questions. wonder what the face of the judge and prosecutor face would look like, if asked if the Constitution is null and void. I wonder if the judge would leave the bench.

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    5. John....quoting you "Please correct your record to show that I am a state Citizen"! John do you know the definition of citizen? see above! NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER EVER EVER identify yourself as a citizen or civil or anything like that! See this is why I do not give people procedures. I don't want you to not know what you are doing. By the way....No...I would never write in any notice to any govt...that I am a state citizen. I am not a citizen nor am I civil. I am belligerent! I don't ask them to do anything for me....I tell them explicitly what to do. I don't mince words and I don't try to sugar coat anything, nor do I try to explain law to them. I am not asking them for anything, nor do I need them to do anything other than their jobs which they took an oath to do. I owe them nothing. A king does not ask the servants to serve. I am not their citizen, I am not civil (both are Roman Civil Law). No where in the contract between the People and them does it say the People have to be civil to them. Citizen and civil are cuss words to me. Yech!

      According to law: THE BELLIGERENT CLAIMANT
      United States v. Johnson, 76 F. Supp. 538, 539 (D. Pa. 1947), Federal District Court Judge James Alger Fee ruled that,
      "The privilege against self-incrimination is neither accorded to the passive resistant, nor to the person who is ignorant of his rights, nor to one indifferent thereto. It is a FIGHTING clause. It's benefits can be retained only by sustained COMBAT. It cannot be claimed by attorney or solicitor. It is valid only when insisted Upon by a BELLIGERENT claimant in person." McAlister vs. Henkel, 201 U.S. 90, 26 S.Ct. 385, 50 L. Ed. 671; Commonwealth vs. Shaw, 4 Cush. 594, 50 Am.Dec. 813; Orum vs. State, 38 Ohio App. 171, 175 N.E. 876. The one who is persuaded by honeyed words or moral suasion to testify or produce documents rather than make a last ditch stand, simply loses the protection. . . . He must refuse to answer or produce, and test the matter in contempt proceedings, or by habeas corpus." [Emphasis added]

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  14. Leland...I guess you can tell I am pretty belligerent in by my tone in my posts! LOL! We have to stand UP WITH STRAIGHT BACKS and say: "NO! How did you get jurisdiction over me?" If they try to continue with their procedures..again :"How did you get jurisdiction over me?" if they try to continue with their procedures....again "HOW DID YOU GET JURISDICTION OVER ME? I can do that all dat gum day...just as long as it takes! Bring in the cots where's the coffee let me see a menu..."HOW DID YOU GET JURISDICTION OVER ME?" "CONTEMPT? OK!...SO!...HOW DID YOU GET JURISDICTION OVER ME?" "NO COT? NO COFFEE? NO MENU? OK...SO...HOW DID YOU GET JURISDICTION OVER ME?" MR. PROSECUTOR DON'T YOU KNOW I ONLY HAVE ONE QUESTION....HOW DID YOU GET JURISDICTION OVER ME?" I would love some coffee or cot or menu...but oh well....HOW DID YOU GET JURISDICTION OVER ME?

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    1. No marriage proposals from me today CJ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ’“๐ŸŽถ

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    2. LELAND oh well...I don't like CIVIL marriage laws anyway.

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    3. LELAND...PS. I guess I am just TOO BELLIGERENT for a CIVIL marriage, based on CIVIL laws. I do not need the POPE'S blessing on marriage. I WOULD LIKE TO PERSONALLY TELL HIM WHERE HE CAN PUT HIS CIVIL [ROMAN] LAWS. I doubt I will ever be face to face to tell him though. WAIT!!!! MR. POPE...HEY IF YOU ARE WATCHING...I AM NOT YOUR CITIZEN....AND I AM NOT CIVIL...WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR ROMAN EMPIRICAL LAWS! I'M BELLIGERENT!

      Definition of belligerent
      1 : inclined to or exhibiting assertiveness, hostility, or combativeness
      2 : waging war, very unfriendly

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  15. FOR ANYONE WHO IS INTERESTED: I am working on a lawful notice, as a claimant to some respondents about a private contract situation. Under a section of the notice is the title MATERIAL FACTS. This is the first paragraph of that section [which is followed by the other material facts]. "Neither RIGHTS unalienable and secured by the Constitution nor the Constitution are null and void. No Congressional Act, Legislative Acts of the States, Regulations or Rules have nullified said RIGHTS or Constitution. Claimant stands with and upon said RIGHTS and laws within the Constitution and Article 3 Court Rulings [American Jurisprudence] and Congressional Acts, Legislative Acts and Regulations and Rules. Respondents stands in opposition." IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I JUST SAID.....THEN....YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT I JUST SAID! IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I JUST SAID...ABOUT...WHAT I JUST SAID...THEN WOW AND POWER AND AUTHORITY TO YOU! The respondents have 30 days to answer that and as to way they have LAWFULLY [NON-LEGALLY] trespassed on my RIGHT of PRIVATE CONTRACT and failed to implement their offered CONTRACT after I the offeree accepted the TERMS AND CONDITIONS of offered CONTRACT. Contract offered and accepted is binding. Now, they want to trespass my rights of said Contract by changing it, before implementation, by making addition terms and conditions that are not part of the original terms and conditions that were accepted. The terms and conditions they want to implement violate U.S. LAWS and my Constitutional rights of privacy, trespass, contracts, and other. I have advised them, but they have refused to cease and desist with their unlawful and illegal demands. I now and sending official notice they have 30 days to implement the contract pursuant to terms and conditions and the laws of the U.S. or I will bring criminal charges for Constitution and Equity violations. The issue being this...they are negligent to MATERIAL FACTS regarding the laws and equity and such MATERIAL FACTS are beyond their level of expertise. I have already told them they need to take my disputes to their own attorney. I have even given them the codes, to discuss, but they won't. OH WELL! Some people just refuse to make good contracts!

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    1. a sample of notice and demand: https://www.1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/noticex.htm

      here's a great website for living within Common Law and taking over the courts: https://www.1215.org/lawnotes/index.html

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    2. Great stuff C.Johnson, thank you! Saved and filed๐Ÿ˜Ž I Love it, Go get em!!!
      Much Gratitude, Love and Peace

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  16. THANKS SO MUCH CJ for sharing your 2 video above with us here๐ŸŒˆ

    I have fwd the second 5 minutes long one on American state national to interested parties๐ŸŽฅ

    https://youtu.be/qQL1IsLk6wg CJ on American state national


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  17. Well I hope the other members of this forum appreciate me asking my questions. We all benefited from C. Johnson's responses. I completely comprehend your discussion C. Johnson. I am not a citizen of anything, anywhere. I see so many people out there trying to get a "state citizen" passport or non-U.S. citizen passport. That is why I used that description for someone that is not part or within the United States. It seems to me that if all "their" alleged contracts were induced through fraud, those alleged contracts are voidable and therefore void if I say they are void. If I could ask you one more question, how do we belligerents get into a common law court to bring a claim for damages against cops, city officials, IRS, state revenue departments and the rest of the defacto farce? How many people are sitting in jail this very moment that just need to know how to get into an Article III/common law court. Is the answer in American Jurisprudence? Is there a template for filing a suit in common law? These are the things we all need to know. If I know who I am and know I am a belligerent or certainly not in "their" jurisdiction, how does giving notice of status change anything? Your description above of "HOW DID YOU GET JURISDICTION OVER ME?" would seem to be the only thing we need to say, over and over, if they drag us into "their" Article I courts. I too wish to thank you for your explanations on the real issues involved in who we are. Others have thanked you C. Johnson, I just wanted to thank you too, and thank you for any other enlightenment you would like to share.

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    1. John...how do you get into the common law courts? John...you were never anything else but a common law...MAN! If you get my; 'HOW DID YOU GET JURISDICTION OVER ME?' Then...are you not already within COMMON LAW? John...can you yet answer the question and understand the implications of 'HOW DID YOU GET JURISDICTION OVER ME?" See that is not a procedure...that is a question! It's only one question...but what does that question mean? Do you yet know? Anna has been teaching it and giving the answers over and over and over! FACT:IN LAW....either they have jurisdiction [equity] or they don't [common law]. See here's the real issue for you John, is you are still trying to LOOSE yourself from equity. YOU CAN'T, THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE. If you are 'IN' equity...then you are 'IN' equity! And if you are 'IN' equity...how do you get out of it? I JUST TOLD YOU...YOU CAN'T! EQUITY is the system...you can not use any procedures to get out of the system. All procedures...fail! So what's a MAN to do? So John...let me ask you this one thing: How did, you, a MAN, get in equity? Isn't equity COMMERCIAL? See I think an enigma exists....within your mind....and that is this...that a MAN can be in EQUITY! Can a MAN...be IN EQUITY? HOW? Isn't EQUITY...Commercial law? Isn't all Commercial Law...based on contracts, with parties...known as defendants and plaintiffs [THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE CALLED IN COURT]. In court are you not being charged with breach of the commercial contract? What have I said about contracts? MAKE GREAT OR AT LEAST GOOD CONTRACTS? But, the issue is this...HOW DID THEY GET JURISDICTION OVER YOU...A MAN...FOR THE PURPOSES OF EQUITY LAW? How can a MAN BE IN EQUITY. I thought only parties, or owners, or operators, or agents, or principals, sole proprietors, or trustees or whatever else they concoct...could be in equity! I just fail to see how a man...got into equity...aren't you dead? I have never seen a man in court, ever! The only time I have been in court was about two traffic tickets and the only ones in court were OPERATORS of motor vehicles! Oh I got a divorce...because I did not know what I know now, so there was no woman there. The only one there was a ward of the court asking permission to kick the other ward of the court to the curve. But, I have never seen a man or woman in court, ever!

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    2. Ps. John 'NO JUDGE EVER WANTS TO SEE A MAN OR WOMAN IN COURT', because men and women who are not involved in a willing consented contract [absent threat, duress or coercion] is without the courts jurisdiction. Equity courts have no power over MEN AND WOMEN who have rights UNALIENABLE AND SECURED [BOTH]. final note: A MAN OR WOMAN, ALSO HAS THEIR RIGHTS WITH THEM, IF THEY GO TO COURT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO ASK THE COURT TO GIVE THEM THEIR RIGHTS. I carry mine with me everywhere I go, I DON'T LEAVE HOME WITHOUT THEM!

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    3. John, let me see if I can help you get over the hump or the learning curve, with this simple example:
      You know what pre-nuptial agreements are right? So I won't have to explain it. Why do you think the very rich people make use of such a tool? Because according to COMMON LAW, a man's ability to make PRIVATE contracts is: lawful, legal and UNLIMITED. [As I stated before, we have been doing this our entire lives..making contracts.] Ok, using me and my ex as an example. We were young, I was 20 and he was 19 and we made a marriage contract. We submitted that contract to LEGAL. LEGAL took it and REGISTERED [their mis-construct for RECORDED] anyway..back to my story. So, LEGAL by REGISTERING it...became the AUTHORITY of the PARTIES of the MARRIAGE CONTRACT. No man or woman existed within that MARRIAGE according to LEGAL. LEGAL gave the TITLE of SPOUSES...MALE AND FEMALE...SPOUSES. When we turned over our marriage contract to LEGAL...they stamped it...and became the LEGAL owner of it and the PERSONS involved in it...known as SPOUSES...MALE AND FEMALE. [Do you see any man or woman?] Continuing...so when it came time for the divorce...BECAUSE LEGAL OWNED THE RIGHTS TO THE MARRIAGE CONTRACT....we had to pay LEGAL to dissolve it. SO LEGAL...used its authority...to make us separate for 30 days, before we could file for divorce, then it was another 30 days after filing...before we could go to court...then LEGAL made us go to court and tell LEGAL why we wanted to be dissolved...then LEGAL CHARGED US ITS ATTORNEY AND COURT FEES and then LEGAL ISSUED US A PIECE OF PAPER called a DIVORCE DECREE and they STAMPED IT and REGISTERED IT..within THEIR RECORDS. Do you see how LEGAL got money and authority and jurisdiction over me? I GAVE IT TO LEGAL BY CONSENT TO BE GOVERNED. So if my ability to contract is unlimited and I can make my own marriage contract and I, a woman can make use of the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND, why did I make use of EQUITY CONTRACT LAW? DUH? Now, can COMMON LAW...settle contracts? Can common law...be used...still today by men and women? Can the govt, override common law....the supreme law of the land...by use of legislation, regulation or rules? Do you know I have the RIGHT to travel, making use of an automobile and to travel anywhere, within the entirety of the NATION without a DRIVER'S LICENSE required of U.S. CITIZENS? Did you know that: RIGHT, has been firmly established as PROCEDURES within EQUITY law by the SUPERIOR COURT rulings [COMMON LAW]? Did you know, just because I get a driver's license....they can not FORCE me to surrender or waive my RIGHT TO TRAVEL? Did you know, consent to be governed must be willing, without threat, duress or coercion? Did you know the CONSTITUTION is NOT null and void and neither are my RIGHTS...UNALIENABLE AND SECURED? Did you know even though PUBLIC POLICY says you have to have a DRIVER'S LICENSE...there is NO LAW...that says it? WHERE THE HECK IS THE DRIVER ANYWAY? I don't know! I KNOW AS A WOMAN, I CAN NEVER BE A DRIVER....ONLY A DRIVER CAN BE A DRIVER! So why the heck, did I bring LEGAL into my MARRIAGE? WHO KNOWS?
      I don’t know any of the stuff they do in LEGAL, or why they do it or anything. I only know who I am and what they do….confuses the crap out of me! I NEVER UNDERSTAND ANYTHING…ABOUT THE QUESTIONS THEY ASK ME IN COURT…ITS ALL SO CONFUSING. I AM JUST A WOMAN, ASKING QUESTIONS OF THEM, BECAUSE I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT KNOW…HOW DID THEY GET JURISDICTION OVER ME? I mean the COMMON LAW...SAYS: THEY DON'T HAVE JURISDICTION OVER ME....IN MY PRIVATE AFFAIRS...OR PROPERTY? So how did the PUBLIC POLICY SYSTEM....get jurisdiction over me...a woman and my private affairs? I'm only asking!

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  18. C. JohnsonOctober 17, 2018 at 5:09 AM
    An addition to info about the 3 identities: the difference between NATIONAL AND CITIZEN. The second identity is the National. the 3rd identity is the U.S. CITIZEN. These are the only two identities the U.S. govt has jurisdiction over. the American State national (L.S.) [the people of the several States-preamble] they have ruled as dead, as far as for their jurisdiction extends. Over the National...they only have limited jurisdiction of the Bill of Rights. Over the U.S. CITIZEN...they have complete jurisdiction. Jurisdiction is determined by the RECORD! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationality

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    1. Interesting ๐ŸŽถ

      Found this the other day...

      "Practical Application 
      Section 7203 of the Internal Revenue Code (tax code of the Infernal Revenue Stealers) starts with the words, "Any person required under this title to pay any estimated tax or tax, or required by this title or by regulations made under authority thereof to make a return, keep any records, or supply any information..." So who is a "person required?" This article appeared in the August 1991 issue of The Connector:

      "Patriot, Tom Hauert - charged with five counts of 7203 willful failure to file returns in March 1990 - put the prosecuting U.S. Attorney on the spot in Federal District Court, Chicago. Ill. At a hearing before the court on October 1st, 1990, Tom stated that he did not understand the charges. Tom read from the Internal Revenue Code the first three words of Section 7203, "Any person required." Then he asked, "How is it established in this section that I am one of those persons required?" The judge read and reread that section, and finally admitted that he understood that Tom was asking for the statute that creates the determination of who is required. The judge said, "Mr. Prosecutor, you can provide a copy of that statute, can't you?" At that point the prosecuting attorney started stammering and stuttering, and said he wasn't familiar with that part of the Code, and the judge told him to find someone to help find it. Well, it's now May 1991... and the government has not provided the information. For ten years Tom wrote many letters to the IRS, asking what statute made him liable? Neither the IRS, nor the government attorney has ever told him or shown him the statute that made/makes him liable. Could it be there is none? That's correct, there isn't any statute that makes a citizen within the fifty states liable. That's why Congress said, "Our tax system is based on voluntary self-assessment." So don't gripe about high taxes if you voluntarily assess yourself."

      Most people living in the so-called "USA" automatically take it for granted that they are referents of the term "person required." Tom Hauert didn't. In a criminal case the judge has to ask the accused if he or she understands the charges. Mr. Hauert effectively said, "No. I don't understand the charges because I don't see how they could possibly apply to me. For the charges to apply to me, the prosecution will have to show that I am a "person required."" It so happens that there's nothing in the tax code that establishes that Mr. Hauert is a referent of the term (symbol) "person required." End of court case.

      I don't recommend that anyone conduct their affairs so as to end up in court. Before such a court case the Infernal Revenue Stealers usually send letters. If these letters are appropriately responded to the Infernal Revenue Stealers will soon give up. Because of the quotas their officers have to meet and because there are so many "easy marks" they soon drop their efforts against informed citizens in order to pursue the "easy pickings."

      Mr. Hauert's defense has a drawback. The Infernal Revenue Stealers can "lean" on the judge. If the judge doesn't toe the line he or she can easily be put away on a trumped up tax charge, as happened to a Las Vegas judge a few years ago who was "too easy" on "tax protestors." So the crooked judge's answer to Mr. Hauert's defense is to commit the accused for psychiatric observation - if he can't understand the charges he must be insane. "

      http://www.mind-trek.com/reports/tl50a.htm

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    2. Leland those 2 codes...are the only two codes on the IRS FORMS...because they can not tell people they owe taxes, if they did it would be fraud. They have to say...'IF'. IF IS A MEGA WORD! Who is the 'IF'?

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  19. Leland, John, Kelli and everyone else who reads my comments I have posted many things, but now for those who are ready, I want to post a little more of the rabbit hole, so you can further awaken. As a refresher from my postings: American Jurisprudence is the SUPREME law of the land and it is AMERICAN Common Law. I have posted a few of those Laws [superior court cases] one is Miranda vs Arizona...that states legislation can not override rights. I posted those particular Laws purposefully. I posted about the 3 identities and what had been done to us all. I posted this: 'HOW DID THEY GET JURISDICTION OVER ME'! I laid out the 3 identities found within the Constitution. Then I posted again "HOW DID THEY GET JURISDICTION OVER ME". I posted you have to think...no one can be free without thinking. I also said I don't teach people legal procedures, I teach them what happened, what is happening and what is going to happen and if they know that they can live free. Ok then...let me a question to those people who have paid attention to my postings: DO YOU YET KNOW, HOW THEY GET JURISDICTION OVER ME?
    Here we go...farther down the rabbit hole to get out of this hole altogether: Let's go back to the one paragraph of the Constitution, known as the pre-amble. Who had the power to ordain and establish the Constitution? Who did ordain and establish the Constitution? Who did they ordain and establish it for? Where did, whoever had that power, come from? The ones who had the power, did they share the power? If they shared the power, did they ever share it enough; to give power to the one to whom they shared it [POWER OVER THE ORDAINERS]? Can you find anywhere, within the Constitution [the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND]...where power was given by the ordainers: to anyone else listed within the Constitution SO THEY COULD HAVE POWER OVER THE ORDAINERS? Now, think, think deep! Put the pieces of this puzzle together! Go back to my posting of the one sentence from Miranda vs Arizona. KNOW THE TRUTH AND YOU WILL BE FREE!

    HERE'S THE PRE-AMBLE: "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
    SO, I ASK YOU AGAIN: HOW DID THEY GET JURISDICTION OVER ME? Can you see it yet?
    EVERYONE..PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO THIS COMMON LAW, DRINK UP EVERY WORD AND THINK OF THE IMPLICATIONS:
    Gallegos v. Haggerty, N.D. Of New York, 689 F. Supp. 93 (1988) “Personal involvement in deprivation of constitutional rights is prerequisite to award of damages, but defendant may be personally involved in constitutional deprivation by direct participation, failure to remedy wrongs after learning about it, creation of a policy or custom under which unconstitutional practices occur or gross negligence in managing subordinates who cause violation.”
    WOULD YOU BE SHOCKED...THAT YOU ARE BEING RULED BY 'PUBLIC POLICY' AND NOT LAW? Leland, just like you posted the IRS codes on this blog, they were taking him to court on PUBLIC POLICY...not LAW.
    Everything the system does is PUBLIC POLICY...until they are stopped by the actual law! SO BACK TO THIS [MY POST] what does the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND say about THE POWER, WHO HAS IT AND ABOUT PUBLIC POLICY?

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    1. PS. Gallegos v. Haggerty, N.D. Of New York, 689 F. Supp. 93 (1988) is such a powerful COMMON LAW...PEOPLE....think....'HOW DID THEY GET JURISDICTION OVER ME?" Ask yourself that question...embed it deep within your heart and mind....GET IT!

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  20. TO EVERYONE ON THIS FORUM....for all the thanks...YOU ARE WELCOME! My only hope...is that I have shared those things...that help you to see...who you are and that you are the POWER AND AUTHORITY...and you can use the POWER AND AUTHORITY to live free. This is why I don't teach people LEGAL procedures or LEGAL...stuff...even though I know a lot about it. LEGAL procedures will keep you locked into the system...and it is the corrupt system...to which you need to free yourself...when you fully know who you are. Anna is right in all her teachings...don't let the fear mongers....teach you otherwise! LIVE FREE! YOU ARE THE POWER AND AUTHORITY OF THE SYSTEM...all you men and women of the Republics!

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