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Wednesday, February 13, 2013

When they come for you and your guns, what will you do?

This article came from one of our readers this morning, and it's great to see people taking a stand for the US Constitution, but I am forced to make some comments on some of his points that if not made could lead to some misunderstanding about what the law really is for the United States. Many believe the we have "Constitutional Rights".  We don't. We have God given rights under positive divine law, and under the natural law, THAT NO GOVERNMENT EVER CAN TAKE AWAY, because no government ever gave those rights. They were not ever within the authority of government to give or take away. He is absolutely right that the US Constitution is still in full force and effect, and we will point out how that has been reinforced by supreme court rulings very recently.
My comments will appear below in blue inside parentheses. 
Subject: FW: If They Come for Your Guns?  Worth the time to read!
If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight?
This man has put down on paper what many people are thinking but are too cautious to express openly. 
I hope it never comes to what he is advocating but I can certainly see where the possibility exists.
God help us all if it ever does happen.
 
PS  : Here is what Wikipedia has to say about the author:
Dean Garrison (born 1955) is a contemporary American author and crime fiction novelist. He was born in Michigan , grew up in the Indiana , Illinois , and Texas , and received his B.A. degree from Ferris State University in Big Rapids, Michigan . Garrison is a Crime Scene Technician in West Michigan . His research in the fields of crime scene investigation and Shooting Reconstruction are widely published in forensic journals under the name "D.H. Garrison, Jr." 
Subject: If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight?
I feel a tremendous responsibility to write this article though I am a little apprehensive. Thinking about the possibility of rising up against our own government is a frightening thing for many of us.(When government steps outside of the supreme law, the US Constitution, they forfeit their authority. Therefore they are not then legitimate government at all and become the outlaws and illegitimate, requiring no obedience. Let's keep in mind who the real law breakers are in all of this. For more on what the law really is: http://www.paulstramer.net/2012/11/what-is-really-law-and-what-is-not-law.html ) 
I am not Johnny Rambo and I will be the first to admit that I do not want to die. The reason I feel compelled to write this, however, is simply because I dont think the average American is equipped with the facts. I feel that a lot of American citizens feel like they have no choice but to surrender their guns if the government comes for them. I blame traditional media sources for this mass brainwash and I carry the responsibility of all small independent bloggers to tell the truth. So my focus today is to lay out your constitutional rights as an American, and let you decide what to do with those rights. (Again, we don't have Constitutional rights. We the People WROTE the Constitution for government to follow, not the other way around. We have God given rights which no government, legitimate or otherwise, can take away. The enemies of freedom want you to believe that government gives rights, and they talk about "constitutional rights" all the time. Even the gun grabbers want to retain their own "constitutional right" to bear arms, but they want to deny yours.)
About a month ago I let the democracy word slip in a discussion with a fellow blogger. I know better. Americans have been conditioned to use this term. Its not an accurate term and it never has been a correct term to describe our form of government. The truth is that the United States of America is a constitutional republic. This is similar to a democracy because our representatives are selected by democratic elections, but ultimately our representatives are required to work within the framework of our constitution. In other words, even if 90% of Americans want something that goes against our founding principles, they have no right to call for a violation of constitutional rights.  (Lest anyone think that Constitution is no longer in full force and effect I point to the Mack/Printz decision on the brady bill and States Rights. http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/95-1478.ZO.html) 
If you are religious you might choose to think of it this way Say that members of your congregation decide that mass fornication is a good thing. Do they have the right to change the teachings of your God? The truth is the truth. It doesnt matter how many people try to stray from it. Did I just compare our founders to God? In a way I did, but please note that I am not trying to insult anyone. For the purpose of the American Government our constitution and founders who wrote it are much like God is to believers. It is the law. It is indisputable. (This is a question of "Who is the law giver"? We know that the author of a law is the law giver as God is the author of the Ten Commandments, and the Natural laws. It follows then, that the author of the US Constitution is the law giver. Look at the preamble. It says " We the People do ordain and establish..... We the People are the authority who established these rules for government servants to follow, and we limited those powers government could exercise, delegated from our God given natural rights and powers, without which government has no power at all, except in our day they have USURPED much power illegitimately and unlawfully that doesn't belong to them at all. They have become the outlaws, and usurpers.)

Our founders did not want a democracy for they feared a true democracy was just as dangerous as a monarchy. The founders were highly educated people who were experienced in defending themselves against tyranny. They understood that the constitution could protect the people by limiting the power of anyone to work outside of it much better than a pure system of popularity. A system of checks and balances was set up to help limit corruption of government and also the potential for an immoral majority developing within the American People. We have forgotten in this country that we are ultimately ruled by a constitution.
(We are ruled ultimately by positive divine law (ten commandments) and the natural laws put into spin at the beginning by our creator, which laws are all higher than any man made law such as the US Constitution, but it is true to say that man made Constitution is the Supreme Law for the United States, a creation also of man.)
Why is a democracy potentially just as dangerous as a monarchy? Lets look at something that Benjamin Franklin said because it answers that question more fully and succinctly than I can.
 
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -Benjamin Franklin 
Even 230+ years ago our founders were perceptive enough to realize that democracy was a dangerous form of government. How so? Because the citizens of a country can become just as corrupt as any government. We have seen evidence of this throughout history. Ask Native Americans and African-Americans if this population can become corrupt.

I think in 2012 we are seeing evidence of what Franklin was trying to tell us. Just because a majority of people may support certain ideas it does not mean that those ideas are just. In simple terms, just because most Americans love our president and voted for him, it does not mean that he has the power to go against our constitutional rights.
(In fact the supreme law would have never allowed that man to even run for the office, but then the outlaws in government welcomed him and it was all outside the law that he was installed) 
Next Id like to review the text of the second amendment. It is very clear. This is the law of this land. So when Senator Feinstein or President Obama talk about taking your guns, you need to think about something. Are they honoring their sworn oath to uphold the constitution?
 
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State , the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
This is a pretty clear statement. The fact is that it took 232 years for the Supreme Court to even rule on this amendment because it has never been successfully challenged. In 2008 a case of Columbia v. Heller the Supreme Court ruled that a handgun ban in Washington D.C. was unconstitutional. One also has to take this into consideration. The Supreme Court supports your right to own guns. If you want to research this decision further you can start here. (According to the foremost Constitutional scholar of our day, Dr. Edwin Vieira Jr. the Heller decision greatly REDUCED our gun rights from what the founders had. Get his 2300 page work on that called "The Sword and Sovereignty" here: 
http://www.amazon.com/The-Sword-Sovereignty-Constitutional-Principles/dp/0967175941/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1360618487&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=Dr.%2BEdwin%2BVieira%2Bsword
For those who try to debate the spirit of the 2nd amendment, they are truly no different from people who will try to take Biblical quotes out of context to try to support their immoral decisions. The founders were very clear on the intent of the 2nd amendment. Let me share a few quick quotes here:
 
The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. -Thomas Jefferson

Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American peoples liberty teeth and keystone under independence From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable . . . the very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference they deserve a place of honor with all that is good. -George Washington

The Constitution shall never be construed.to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms. -Samuel Adams
I could find hundreds of quotes like these. This country was built on the right to bear arms. It was built on the rights of an individual to bear arms, regardless of what his government or neighbor happened to think. This is crystal clear. Ironically the people who voice their opinions against this right have their free speech protected by your guns. Without guns in this country, all other amendments become null and void, simply because We the People will lose our power of enforcement.
We need to keep this in mind as our representatives try to push gun bans. I dont care if 99% of people are in support of gun bans (which is far from the case), it is a violation of our constitutional rights, plain and simple.

A constitutional republic protects the rights of the individual even when their ideas are very much  in the minority. If I were the only person in America who believed in the 2nd amendment, I would still be within my rights to call upon it. You would all think I was insane and possibly celebrate if I was gunned down, but in the end I would be the only true American among us.

Our framers were very clear on this. If my government comes to take my guns, they are violating one of my constitutional rights that is covered by the 2nd amendment.
I(What is constitutional is the 2nd amendment in it's entirety. Everyone forgets that most important part. "A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free state......   We have NOT done our part to keep this amendment.  Do you want to stand alone? Not me. I would rather be a part of the Lawful Militia of the Several States! I will stand alone if I have to, but would rather have hundreds of patriots helping under the authority of our County Sheriff the way it is supposed to work.) t is not my right, at that point, but my responsibility to respond in the name of liberty.tried to avoid putting into print, but I am going to say it. The time for speaking in code is over.
If they come for our guns then it is our constitutional right to put them six feet under. You have the right to kill any representative of this government who tries to tread on your liberty. I am thinking about self-defense and not talking about inciting a revolution. Re-read Jefferson s quote. He talks about a last resort. I am not trying to start a Revolt, I am talking about self-defense. If the day for Revolution comes, when no peaceful options exist, we may have to talk about that as well. None of us wants to think about that, but please understand that a majority cannot take away your rights as an American citizen. Only you can choose to give up your rights. (The proper attitude is a bit different. I am NOT saying we don't have the absolute right to defend our own lives and those of our families and neighbors, but to stop a tyrannical government MUST be done properly with the mechanism that is required and was required. That mechanism is the MILITIA. There is no other way to be successful. People standing alone will never win this!)
Congress could pass gun ban legislation by a 90%+ margin and it just would not matter. I think some people are very unclear on this. This is the reason we have a Supreme Court, and though I do not doubt that the Supreme Court can also become corrupt, in 2008 they got it right. They supported the constitution. It does not matter what the majority supports because America is not a democracy. A constitutional republic protects the rights of every single citizen, no matter what their elected servants say. A majority in America only matters when the constitution is not in play. (What he says here is right but doesn't go far enough. The Supreme court can't make a ruling today that changes what the founders believed and what We the People delegated to the federal government. They just think they can. In practice it comes down to enforcement. At the local level the power still rests with the people. Read the Mack/Printz decision. The supreme court says the federal government can't tell the sheriff what to do, Period. The Heller decision was a truncation of our real instruction to government NEVER to interfere with our gun rights, IN THE MILITIA. We have abrogated our duty to ourselves and the law by letting the Militia of the Several States to fall into disuse.)

I just wrote what every believer in the constitution wants to say, and what every constitutional blogger needs to write. The truth of the matter is that this type of speech is viewed as dangerous and radical or subversive, and it could gain me a world of trouble that I do not want. It is also the truth. To make myself clear I will tell you again. If they come for your guns it is your right to use those guns against them and to kill them. You are protected by our constitution. (Who are the real subversives, and the real seditionists? Those who would pervert the law! Read the definition of those two words. Subversion is "a systematic attempt to overthrow or undermine a government by persons working secretly from within" and Sedition is "inciting violent overthrow of the lawful civil authority".  Now I ask you, are not people who are working for gun control trying to overthrow the government We the People put in place by the Constitution? Are not those same people willing to create violence to get what they want? Then ask yourselves what is the penalty for these high crimes?)
Most of the articles I am reading on the subject are trying to give you clues without just coming out and saying it. I understand that because certain things in this country will get you on a list that you dont want to be on. I may well be on that list. This blog is small and growing so I may not be there yet, but I have dreams. I also have my own list of subversives and anyone who attempts to deny my constitutional rights is on that list.

I am not the subversive here, it is the political representatives who are threatening to take away my inalienable rights. If they come to take my guns and I leave a few of them wounded or dead, and I somehow survive, I have zero doubt that I will spend a long time in prison and may face an execution. But I would much rather be a political prisoner than a slave.

If I go down fighting then I was not fighting to harm these human beings. I was simply defending my liberty and yours. It is self-defense and it is what our country was built on. We won our freedom in self-defense. We would not be ruled by a tyrannical government in the 1770s and we will not be ruled in 2012 by a tyrannical government. There is no difference.

This is a case of right and wrong. As of now the 2nd amendment stands. It has never been repealed. If Feinstein or Barack have a problem with the constitution then they should be removed from office. They are not defending the constitution which they have sworn an oath to protect. It is treasonous to say the least. They would likely say the same about me, but I have the constitution, the founders, and the supreme court on my side. They only have their inflated egos. (They have one more thing, military might, and to counteract that we need the over 100 million gun owners to come together in the Militia of the Several States. Just the fact that we do will stop these gun grabbers cold in their tracks because they really are all COWARDS, who would never go out in public without their ARMED SECURITY, armed with the very same guns they want to take away from law abiding and peace loving people all over this country.)

I am not writing this to incite people. I am writing this in hopes that somehow I can make a tiny difference. I have no idea how many of my neighbors have the will to defend their constitutional rights. 2%? 20%? I am afraid that 20% is a high number, unfortunately. When push comes to shove many people may give up and submit to being ruled. I believe that our government is banking on this.

What I do know is that this country was founded by people who had balls the size of Texas and Patriotic Americans take shit off of no one, especially our own government. For evidence of that, you might research the Revolutionary War. My question is how many Patriots are left? (I offer the current gun sales as an indicator of the number of real patriots. They are NOT buying them to just hand them to the feds! They have drawn the line in the sand and will not be conned once more into letting the OUTLAWS run over them. This is NOT a society getting ready for hunting. They are getting ready for WAR! They won't start it, but might be forced to finish it quickly and get back to the peace they love. I hope we can avoid that "last resort" but at this point I wouldn't bet money that we can.) 
I would hope that our officials come to realize that, regardless of our numbers, we still exist because they are calling Patriotic Americans to action. They are making us decide if we want to die free or submit to their rule. I cannot tell you where you should stand on that. I do know that it may make the difference between living a life of freedom or slavery. (I would say that the choice is not between dying or submitting. It is a choice between forming up the proper defense with the will to use it, and giving away our freedom with it's attendant results for us and our children. I for one will not be getting on their helicopter or bus to go to any camp. But before that I will exhaust every other option. Read my article on that here: http://www.paulstramer.net/2009/09/when-is-it-time-to-fight.html 
You must start thinking about this because I believe that the day is coming soon and I personally believe it has already been planned. Not all conspiracy theories are hogwash. They may throw down the gauntlet soon and my suggestion is that you prepare yourself to react.
I mean no disrespect to our elected officials but they need to understand that We the People will not be disarmed. If they proceed then it is they that are provoking us and we will act accordingly. We are within our rights to do so.

For those who are in support of taking the guns, you need to ask yourself a very important question, and I am not just talking about the politicians, because if you support them, you have chosen your side.

Are you willing to die to take my guns?

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Through regulations, taxation, inflation of the money supply, trade restrictions, and tethers on private associations, government itself is nothing but a massive drain on prosperity. The situation has become deeply dangerous for the future of freedom in America, with young people unable to find jobs, opportunities being destroyed in sector after sector, banks and corporations living on the dole, and so many regulations that we are living under something nearly as egregious as Soviet-style central planning.
 
"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him --- better take a closer look at the American Indian."  Henry Ford

(In conclusion I must add that We the People are the law abiding, peace loving residents of these United States and we uphold the true law. We have a duty to enforce that law because we are the lawful civil authority with our duly elected Sheriff. Anybody who purports to pass any so called "law" that abrogates any of the protected God given rights outlined in that supreme law are the real OUTLAWS, Seditionists, Subversives, and Traitors, in other words they have become the DOMESTIC ENEMIES their own oath talks about! They are willing to destroy peace and good order in our communities to get what they want, which is a total monopoly on the use of lethal force, after which they will instigate a totalitarian police state and start the systematic murder of millions of us that abide by the supreme law, and believe in peace and freedom, and liberty under the TRUE AND HIGHEST LAW which is God's divine and positive law and the natural law He put in place and by which He governs the universe! Stand with God and He will stand FOR you. Remember they can't do anything to you that Almighty God does not allow for His own good and greater Glory and the Salvation of Souls including your own.)

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