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Tuesday, September 5, 2017

The Greatest Fraud of All

By Anna Von Reitz

We are at the end of a very, very long learning session.  It has taken somewhat over 8,000 years to get to this moment, or roughly 25,000 lifetimes. 

Most especially, we have needed to learn the difference between good and evil, lies and truth, and all the other opposites that exist in a continually changing dynamic that ultimately cancels out.  Think of it in terms of mathematics -- you can reach zero from an infinite number of starting points, right?   -7 plus 7, -98 plus 98, and so on?   The scale may change but the result does not, like a Nautilus shell-- each chamber is larger, but the design is the same.  This is what generates the illusion of time and expansion, when in fact, nothing has changed.   So, we actually live in a steady state.  That "Zero Point" is called "Now" --- where the Alpha and Omega meet and cancel out --- this is where we live, breathe, and have our being.  This moment contains all that ever was or ever will be.  And there is only one such "eternal moment".  This eternal moment is the memory and body of God.

These concepts are not exactly foreign to us.  We have seen Buddha on his lily pad.  We have seen Christ on his cross.  We have all seen roses grow out of manure piles and good come from evil and evil from good.  We have read the holy scriptures of the world, and they all tell us the same thing from different viewpoints, as if a thousand men were all standing in a circle around a horse and trying to describe it for us.

Becoming truly aware and appreciating the nuances of different viewpoints is an organic growth process not unlike a child growing up.  Unfortunately for us, this hasn't been a smooth or easy process.  Many monkey-wrenches and tests have been thrown in by the Schoolmaster from Hell, Satan.  The most difficult tests -- religious belief, sexual morality, money, egotism, and more generally, symbolic thought processes, were all introduced by the Queen of Sumeria, also known as the "Queen of Heaven", Astarte, Isis, Ashtoreth, Semiramis, Cybele, and Columbia---also known as "The Mother of All Harlots" and "The Great Abomination".

About 8,000 years ago, Queen Semiramis noticed that a basket of wheat was being traded for a small gold coin in the marketplace.  What ho! So, instead of doing what the Sumerian and Babylonians had been doing--- trading thousands of baskets of wheat back and forth, donkey-load by donkey-load--- why not just use a gold coin to symbolize the wheat and trade it, instead?   She had the image of a basket of wheat stamped on little pieces of gold, and money was born.  This leap of fact into fiction, from actual basket of wheat to coin symbolizing wheat, tore a hole in the fabric of our logic web.  Life was no longer a simple matter of discerning what is, but became infinitely more complicated because once symbolic thinking was introduced we also had to deal with issues of faith, belief, and discernment. 

Even though a basket of wheat is a basket of wheat and a gold coin is a gold coin, things were getting confused in our minds as we traded one for another.  Very quickly, men realized -- hey, if this gold coin can stand for a basket of wheat, why couldn't it stand for......a bag of figs?  A barrel of water?  A new dress? 

Well, indeed..... and though Semiramis's coin "stood for" a basket of wheat, it quickly came to symbolize virtually anything, according to an arbitrary value established in the marketplace.  This value was never certain or steady and seldom ever truly based on fact, thanks to commodity hoarding and speculation and other self-interested activities, natural disasters, limited gold supplies and market demands. 

As the use of money grew, so did the evils we associate with it --- the supply of money was quickly taken over as a "royal function", and it was made to appear very rare and precious and therefore valuable. Even when the money supply wasn't being deliberately manipulated by governments, or counterfeited by thieves, it had to be admitted that the supply of anything based on an actual commodity was "large but not infinite" and certainly in the course of history there have been times when the supply of money was tight simply because the demand for it out-stripped the ability of the Royal Mints to find enough gold and stamp out enough coins fast enough.  This is how we got silver currency.  Nobody could find enough gold fast enough to meet the market demand for currency, so people started using silver as well as gold, to expand the supply of money used in trade. 

Are gold and silver so very valuable in and of themselves?  No, not really, not to us, not at the present time.  We can't eat, breathe, drink or be warmed or sheltered or protected by gold or silver.  Just as in the days of Semiramis, gold is being used as a symbol for all the other things it can be traded for, and its choice as "the" commodity used to create money is as arbitrary now as it was then. 

And we still have the same hole in our logic web.  We are still having difficulties dealing with the nuances of symbolic thinking.  It's like an algebra problem that we almost-but-not-quite grasp, and sometimes we get the answer right and sometimes we get the answer wrong, and we still don't know exactly why. 

So let's take a look at this with new eyes.

We have a thing (gold coin or paper bill or digits in a bank ledger) that we use to represent all sorts of other things (apples, lawn mowers, new shoes, oats) and services, too (hair cuts, swimming lessons, fire protection). 

That whole concept is bizarre when you stop and think about it.  Can one thing really stand for another?  No. 

In order to seriously consider a coin, a paper bill or digits in a check book as being "equivalent to" anything else --- we have to suspend belief.  Just like when we go to the movies and watch a sci-fi thriller or a fairy tale, and "for the sake of the story" suspend our belief and accept the idea that old hot rods can fly and ET's ride bicycles and old clothes closets can open into other worlds we have to suspend our belief when we accept a coin, a bill, or a digit as an "equitable exchange" for a dress or a ham steak or a bushel of apples. 

That is, we have to accept a premise that is logically insupportable.

For example, we have to pretend that numbers written on a ledger are of equivalent value to a new car.

We are so brain-washed, so indoctrinated, and take the suspension of belief involved in the use of "money" so much for granted, that bit by bit all common sense has been eroded until we believe that something essentially worthless --- keystrokes entered on a bank ledger, for example, has value equal to a new house? 

When I cornered a banker about this one day, he went red-faced and started puffing and finally blurted, "It has that much value if you believe it does!"


So, "value" is a matter of belief?

Yes. Whether two apples are worth a bunch of grapes is a matter of belief and personal opinion.  So is the judgment call of whether a gold coin is equivalent in value to a basket of wheat.

It might be worth that much to you, but not to me----but at least we can all agree that apples, grapes, gold coins, and baskets of wheat have "a" value, even if we dispute what that value is. 

Things take on another level of absurdity when we take a step deeper into fantasyland and start trading paper that merely claims to represent things.

Ah, this piece of engraved paper here is equal in value to four hamburgers, with fries and a chocolate shake, or an hour of skilled labor.  Why?  Because the U.S. Government says it is.  And no other reason at all. 


This results from "legal tender laws". 

A self-interested group of men get together and print up their own script.  (Think: Federal Reserve Bankers and Federal Reserve Notes.) 

The printing of this "script"  costs about four cents per bill.  And then using the coercive power of the government for their own private enrichment, they simply have the politicians declare that their four cent product is arbitrarily worth a hundred cents or a thousand cents or ten thousand cents or a million cents.  It really doesn't matter to them.  They aren't on the hook for it.  They are trading something that it cost them four cents to produce for something that cost the other guy a lot more to produce, and the "government" says its okay, so it's okay.   Then the bankers and the government split the profits, and you pay for it all.

This is an obvious scam and rip-off that nobody in their right mind would agree to voluntarily.  That's why legal tender laws have to be applied using coercive power, and why everything that has gone on in the world since 1913 has been accomplished under conditions of fraud and duress. 

Every time you buy something under these conditions you are being forced into a bad deal.  You are being forced--- by your own government no less --- to work for these essentially worthless pieces of paper, and that is what gives the paper value. Your slave labor. 

When this finally comes home to you and you admit the reality of what has been done, your first impulse may be to get a pitchfork and start skewering both bankers and politicians, but that would not be fair, because you and the other victims have been in a fuzzy-thinking daze and allowed this to go on for over a hundred years.  Where's your responsibility for this situation?

Wake up!  America!  Hello!  Wake up!

The whole concept of money is largely bushwah.  One thing can't really "stand for" or be equivalent to another, except on the basis of someone's opinion --- and who made their opinion the "standard of value" for the whole world?

Right now, we have a committee of men -- the GCR Committee -- and they have been struggling for many months trying to come up with exactly such a standardized value for everything in the world from gallons of oil to bushels of Brazil Nuts, all based on gold as the "standard commodity".  What if I have a lot of oil and want to make oil the "standard commodity"?  Hmm?  Or, pickle relish.  What if I am the Kingpin producer of pickle relish worldwide, and I want pickle relish to be the "standard commodity"? 

So the Chinese have amassed a lot of gold and they want gold to be the standard commodity and they want their "yuan" to be the standard trading paper. 

Personally, I'd rather trade in pickle relish. 

To me, it has more intrinsic value than gold.  And the days and hours of my life, which is what most of us trade in exchange for any commodity, is certainly worth more to me than any piece of metal, much less a piece of paper representing a piece of metal. 

So when you think about it, whether we are "trading in" gold or oil or pickle relish, all these "systems of value" are prejudices and based on false premises that are ridiculous.

I want you all to start thinking--- really thinking--- about the nature of money and your relationship to it.  In the final analysis, your beliefs and your willingness to trade, are all that give it value.  If I and my neighbors don't value gold, then gold is worthless to us.  If we value apples and wood instead, guess what? 

So what do you believe is truly valuable on a scale of one to ten?   A lump of metal?  Or a side of beef?   A lump of metal..... or wood timbers?    A lump of metal....or six hours of your time on Earth?    A lump of metal.....or ten pounds of cherries?

Once you start thinking about it, you realize it is all nothing but a mix of self-interest, mass delusions and individual opinion.  You realize that "money" doesn't really exist or have any meaning apart from what value and meaning we attach to it.  It's a little god that we make for ourselves and then spend all our days chasing after.  It is most certainly, obviously, and pathetically--- an idol. 

If someone carved an image out of wood, would you bow down and worship it?  Most likely not.  Most likely you would snort and bellow, "This is ridiculous!" and walk away.

Yet, billions of people on this planet literally worship money and bow down to it every day.  Why?  Because they believe in it.  Because they are forced -- by coercive governments -- to work for it.  Because none of us ever really think about it, and discover that it is just hokum in a nice suit.

This wrong belief in money, no less than a wrong religious belief or any other kind of delusion, is what enslaves and limits and harms all of us.  Every single man, woman, and child on Earth is harmed by their false belief in money.

What we should believe in and therefore give value to, is the Creator -- whatever name you use to describe the Ordering Force of the Universe, that makes our life and every good thing possible. 

And after that Magnum Mysterium--- which we should worship with thankfulness and awe --- we should value creativity, compassion, good will, love, honesty, justice, and other intangible things which nonetheless make life worthwhile.

So how do we fix this problem and get the world back on track?  Find a way to trade goods and services, yet keep in view what is truly of value? 

Some people think that we can do this by setting up yet another "value system" based on a different commodity---as if such a system based on gold is intrinsically different or better than one based on oil?  Hello? 

I say no, this is all ridiculous, whether it is based on Arab oil or Chinese gold or Canadian wheat.  It's all wrong-headed and delusional.

The only possible honest money that could ever exist, would be a currency based on the value of all commodities and all labor.  It's the only way to fairly or adequately symbolize the value of the goods and services we trade --- not by arbitrarily comparing everything to one commodity, but by symbolizing a tiny fraction of the value of all commodities, including labor.

Then the world does not belong to those who have the gold or those who have the oil or those who have the wheat (as in Ancient Sumeria)---but instead it belongs to everyone on Earth as a means of trade, as it should be. 

I am tired and discouraged and sick of the games and idiocy I deal with every day.  Everyone should have grown up by now and have no illusions about money, but no, large segments of the population remain enthralled. Even the brightest men I talk to are bamboozled by money.  They seek after it and slaver over it like dogs.  They think it is something that its not.  They are utterly deluded.

What we can all do to change this situation, is to educate ourselves and educate others, and push our brains to think-----really think---- about what we are doing and what "money" is and who is responsible for this madness?

If the guilty governments have their way, the private script that Americans have been forced to use "as" money ever since 1933, will be first devalued by 40%, and then replaced by "gold-backed Treasury Reserve Notes"--- but this all bogus, too. It's just a different flavor of the same old shit.  And an excuse for a new gang of thugs pushing a different but equally bogus "standard commodity" to lord it over everyone else. 

Enough, already.  Tell your governments to grow a brain, because you have.   

And pin the bankers face down to the floor. 

We have spent 8,000 years trying to figure out what money is.  At the end of the day, it's just a scam, a "useful idol" because people worldwide are too dull or too self-interested  to get the joke. 

Let your brain-cells work on what I have said here for a few hours.  You'll see that what I have told you is true, and that you have been spending your life chasing after little man-made idols--- and that is why the idol-makers are rich and everyone else is poor.  Simple enough.  But when you stop believing in the value of idols and stop giving them value, this whole system will have to change. It will no longer be just a few Old Lobos like me sounding the alarm.  Suddenly, everybody will wake up and say, "WTH?"  And then the stampede will be on, and the members of the Congresses and Politburos will be made to sing a different song --- a song that honors the Truth at last. 

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  1. This is all well and very good, but how do i pay my bills? Taxes electric etc?

    1. OMG, I did not know you had realized NOW. this is the most beautiful thing you have ever written. thank you Anna.

  2. Most Days (Bills For Shelter, etc Being Taken Care Of) - I Would Trade My "Interests" In A Bar of Gold For A Good Steak Dinner Any Old Evening LOL I'm TRYING To Make A Difference Here On Earth; Which Means Learning How To Deal With The Mass Delusions!!

  3. "Money" is simply a means of providing a common denominator to facilitate the exchange of goods and services, no matter the form "money" may take. There will NEVER be "a currency based on the value of all commodities and all labor." (unless by duress of government) as you suggest as being the only fair way to establish "honest money" because again, it all comes down to what anyone person's value of a particular good or service is to that person! So, Anna, who should ascribe the "value of all commodities and all labor" so we may have "honest money"? You? Me? Who? It is the purpose of a truly free market to ascribe the value of goods and services yet, there is no free market today because of manipulation, defaced currency via government counterfeiting, government subsidies, goods and services deemed "illegal" by government, etc.

  4. You are right in that all of the things you have mentioned including the aggregation of all commodities and human services do not necessarily have equal intrinsic value to each individual across the globe. So, why not base a currency on something that actually does? I suggest the total amount of oxygen in our atmosphere. It remains essentially constant, cannot be manipulated and measurement of its actual available quantity can be easily challenged and verified by numerous independent humans around the world. I am NOT suggesting it be based on a particular volume of oxygen in any kind of container created by mankind. It would only have to be based on a standardized fraction of the total global oxygen in our atmosphere just like the value of a Bitcoin is based on a total that will never be exceeded or increased. Taking the "standard" out from under the control of any group of individuals or humanity in general is the only thing that would seem to be viable.

  5. Anna-
    You and Michael Savage are my two most favorite people on the planet right now...I would love to be a fly on the wall listening to a luncheon conversation between the two of you!
    This writing is elegantly powerful in its simplicity...whatever "value" I place on a commodity (something I need or want) determines what I would be willing to exchange for it...a free market environment without control agents. Belief in a Higher Power (trust and faith), Creativity, Compassion....with the snap of a finger we can instantly change out mind set and think into existence a whole new way of living our lives. Tesla said our 6th sense is "thought". I think our 7th sense is Energy. Everything is energy and our thoughts and words determine where and how we use energy, therefore we are in control of determining how our lives unfold. Everything is available to us when we understand how simple life really is and how profound our abilities are. Cast the matrix aside and breath freely.
    I really appreciate your gift of sharing Anna. Thank you so much.
    PS-I would like to have your feed-in on creating a "signature card" for the accounts...I have put together one and would like you to correct it for me...if you have time.

  6. I am glad you expanded on my posts of father time Anna we have watched you run and expand on our clear and aware references of ancient days that have come back to the fore.
    Lets NOT KEEP THINKING ANNA THAT thinking is why we have allowed those aware to rule our individual worlds.There are no victims in gods kingdom because god is omni present and omni potent ,meaning he is in each of our atoms(original adam) remain now which one feels present and aware of their precise will go back to knowing drop the knowledge(no lateral movement of the hemispheres)use first brain the stomach where god reveals all with the sacred sense of awareness,Nothing is hidden if you are aware inter dimensionally within self.
    Thinking creates unnatural forms of being limited by that which is unnaturally being stupid.
    there is no them ,we are a human family period ,stop judging others
    ANNA THERE is no government because No one can govern anothers minds unless one abandoned there free will, minds do not change ones will only the idea of it.
    No one owns the earth,no money can make that true or false,borders are also a myth,the earth is the earth we have been given it to steward for on our own good ,Thinking Amercia is a place that only So called human using the ruse of a name to create division from a portion of the human race is the same bad mind as those who you claim are rich with dead money ,I am wealthy beyond any money or substance in the earth ,those who fixate on holding materials such as diamonds gold and the gambit are in actual fact the poorest .material wealth own you not the other way around even if fully delegated .I know millionaires and billionaires they all suffer the same fate condemned by over consumption and Hippocracy. Because if yu can save a life with ones money and one fails to see the opportunity of the blessing you hold and refuse to share with those who are truly suffering without enough food and clean water then one is living a lie and debased their natural values and replaced them with wicked artificial forms of lacking in one of the bodies humors.
    Anna when are you going to shift to pure love and drop the judgment ? you are close yet so far! father time has your mind in a twist of self attorning. but what are you turning from and to ?
    please drop time become present as you have written clearly about and take your own medicine ,you will serve all others So well and this will be your greatest day in this lifetime .
    You are not a federal postal judge ,that is only a name ,we are not a name nor do we take on such forms ,we are spiritual beings unlimited and formless. PREACH SELF GOVERNING WITHOUT RELIANCE ON ANY SYSTEM OTHER THAN GODS INTERNAL WILL Within ALL OF OUR BODIES ,HE REVEALS ALL IN ONES PRESENT STATE .
    If you imply that one cant be aware of self and others and choose to be happy and selfless towards others ,and choose the law of love and give away what one doesn't need in any given day them MONEY WILL BE NO LONGER A MENTAL TAX AND SELF INDUCES SLAVERY ,NO ONE MADE Any of us think anything, Our spirits are always free.
    We cannot wash any of our hands from the world genocide because we profited and lost by the same hand in which we feed our children from our false idols of daily bread that which one consumes that is not sustainable in body ,mind and earth.who has killed our planet by using toxins washing down your drains,in your brake pads kicking dust in our lungs and those innocent children that we forced to breath our condemned air and water ,WHO FORCED WHO? ,one could have chosen to be homeless or grow ones own food to trade ,yet most looked the other way because of fear of the unknown.

    1. haha, your out there. I do not always wholeheartedly agree but you make some valid points and I appreciate your perspective.

  7. to follow up on what you might be able to do in your community go to and watch the prezi by John Root jr.....and if you want a little more edutainment shoot me an e-mail at for a copy of my, in process, screenplay: THE GRAND SCAM: The story of three friends in foreclosure losing their homes and families and friends and how they GROKED money....and won back their home, family and friends.

  8. This is a great message! We've been living in someone else's design for quite sometime. Everything has already been defined for us, including "money" and the purpose there of.

  9. I've alway said to myself,, what is this paper good? my theory was that it definitely weren't anything of value unless we praised it...
    it such a mad house today that it's sickening ..

  10. Well, looks like Anna has been on her broken down time machine as do not believe, nor can one find Simeramus existing 8K yrs. ago, it is more likely 4500 yrs. ago, as she was Nimrod's wife and that was shortly after the Flood of Noah. There is nothing wrong using gold/silver/paper money as long as it is not used as a debt note. The reason why Lincoln was assassinated was because his gov't issued debt free paper money was a threat to Saint Rothschild central banking debt note money supply. ANYTHING used as "money" can be subject to abuse, the problem isn't what is used as currency, the problem is with humankind!!! WE have a problem and everything in this world has been abused by people and it isn't going to change until people are changed by nature to do the right thing every time. I don't see that happening. Again, anna needs to stick with gov't issues and leave her demented historical issues alone as she looses credibility siting historical stuff that are based in fantasy.

    1. COOL! A time machine.
      At least she isn't on doing research, was your Lincoln info right next the Washington cherry tree stuff? Lincoln was a Ratschild agent if there ever was one, LOL debt-free money for who ? the government to NOT pay back and pass off to the public and do a bait and switch with the gold backed currency which they were already flat broke and could not pay back. LOL the pre-curser to the fiat deal we currently live under and his greenbacks were not officially termed "fiat money" until well after his death, Lincoln issued greenbacks for one purpose only to fund his war because they were broke and the single reason they won the war, while the south were killed by counterfeiting debasing the southern money until it was inflated close to 10,000% by the end of the war and totally worthless without the public being held as collateral for the debt thanks to Lincoln and Congress getting things moving for the Federal Reserve nightmare we currently have. He was killed because he was interested in preserving the Union, not a Martial Law dictatorship which he also implemented but not realizing the long term agenda of others looking to keep it in place.

    2. to Unknown, Mathematically, those who do most would have the greater potential for error. A polite correction could occasionally be in order but to criticize Anna who does so much good is counterproductive at best. Can YOU step out from behind "Unknown" and constructively teach? Without error?

  11. I know all this because I am a universal empath:

    Manifestive Empath: The ability to create their own reality and infuse the reality of others.
    Intuitive Empath (Clairempathy): is the ability to sense/feel the attitudes/emotions of others.
    Healing Empath:The ability to take in the energy of others and transmute it.
    Spiritual Empath:The ability to sense the other persons oneness with their god.

    Precognitive Empath:The ability to predict a certain outcome and see where paths lead.
    Telepathic Empath:The ability to have thoughts, as well as feelings.
    Judgement Empath: The ability to distinguish truth from lies and good from evil.
    Seer Empath:The ability to see where the emotions are coming from, along with the cause.

    Molecular Empath:The ability to blend their aura with the aura of another person.
    Animal Empath:The ability to talk to animals and understand their needs
    Shaman Empath:The ability to be one with nature and speak with animals and plant life.
    Universal Empath:The ability to possess all of the Empath traits. The psychic-hybrid.

  12. Our real problem is that even though we are "spiritual" in nature , we are forced to live in physical bodies, with real and actual physical human needs for exsistance or we die. Anyone will tell you that the number one strongest need, is the need to survive...and its training involved, or illusions. These physical bodies are truely amazing in its design. I know because i graduated pre-med. You guys have no idea of the complex chemical and electrical processes going on in your bodies every nanosecond to nanosecond, because if you did you would certainly believe in a creator. Did you know that your entire nervous system is made up of "disconnected" (not connected like most people think), thinks called "neurons" that passs signals to each other in long chains using only certain unique chemicals(called neuraltransmitters) in the very small space that separate each neuron from one another in chains that can number in the millions for just one simple thought...extend your arm to grab the apply. All it takes is a thought by your brain.....the rest is automatic and happens as quick as the thought works exactly like electrcity....flip a switch and the light, wherever it is, immediately lights up. That figures out at approximately 280,000,000 meters per second or about the spead of light in a vacume. In any world that is a miracle. But, this marval of creation has a flaw in its physical needs food and water to survive. In a world without some form of "illusionary value", the strongest people will always survive, overpowering there weaker counterparts. I hate to say it, but money, in whatever form, is a necessary evil we just cant escape if the physically weaker of us even stand a chance of surviving. Thats our lesson here though....!! This is a test to our underlying true spiritual nature. Are we going to be greedy, or are we going to help one another.....its absoluty beyond comprehension for some people like Bill Gates, worth some $70 billion, while others starve to death.

  13. Most people if the have any common sense at all, would have a hard time spending $100 million, let alone billions. Therefore, my conclusion is that money is nothing more than a "DRUG"...the most powerful drug on earth. Nothing even comes close to it. Everyone everywhere are drug addicts...its that simple. And like any addict, as his tolorance increases, so does his need for the drug, which is never satisfied. And therein lies the real irony..!! Those people that think they are actually the icons of our society, the so called professions working in the justice dept. have a hard time in the concept that really all they are is civilly accepted "DRUG ADDICTS"!! They are the ones who have been completely deceived and living the biggest illusions of us all. I had to visit part of the DA's office 15 years ago for a drug charge to sign some papers.. There was a nice older woman there that was kind of motherly. She was trying to tell me the dangers(and possible criminal time i migh do) about using drugs. I looked back at her and asked her if she had money. She said of course. And then i laid it on her...."Well guess what, you have the most powerful drug ever created by man. She was so taken back, it took her awhile to respond, but when she did all she could say is..."well, thats a strange way at looking at it". She knew i was right, she just couldnt admit it. So i started comparing the problems of addiction of drug to money, and low and behold, they both caused the same problems or worse in the case of money.. People simply dont see the love of money as an addiction..!! In fact people respect that kind of greed, as if it was something to achieve in life. The illusion isnt money itself, its the fact that it is a drug like anything else and causes problems only when people lose all control and become total addicts at the expense of everyone else around them. The become a problem to everyone, including themselves....!!! Just know that not all addicts are created equal. And theres nothing we can do about that!!!

  14. the bible tells us "the love of money is the root of all evil" be that as it may. the "mark of the beast" is coming to a town near you and it will not just be an economical "mark" allowing its "owner" to "buy and sell" it will be "a mark of ownership" those that "receive" such a mark will be "owned" body soul and spirit by the antichrist!! a time is coming folks when such "a mark" will be "enforced" upon all humanity at the point of death for "refusing it" people could "own" vast amounts of gold or fake money in their accounts, but if they dont "receive" such "a mark" they will not be able "to use" their "wealth" at all!! the "mark" of the beast is coming folks like it or not, and without Jesus Christ living in your hearts when it is "enforced" then the strong delusion that is sent by God himself will close the door on those that did not "listen"!! "anyone" that calls upon "the name" of the lord Jesus Christ "shall be saved"!! salvation or gaining "eternal life" is "accepting" Jesus Christ in to ones "own heart" it is that simple, it puts "all of humanity" on the very save level just by that one simple "act of self will"!! time is running out fast for this dieing world and "judgement" is not far away! good luck one and all, but remember its Jesus Christ in ones own heart that "gives them" eternal life, nothing else!!!!

    1. Steve, the mark of the beast is going to be mandated by the anti christ, and that bugger can't become world dictator until after the Lord has removed ''his own'' from this earth 'to go on a 7 yr. little vacation''. So that Mark is not going to be a decision I will have to make. (those saints mentioned during the great trib. period are those that missed the boat who were supposed to be on it. The Two Witnesses will return and do ''clean up' and gather them. They are not the already saved, which is the Body referred to as The Church)
      There are many proofs of this in the bible, pick one if you can't find them all. One would be that the Trib. is ''the time of Jacobs trouble''. This is where God goes back and deals with that remnant of israelites.
      Another one is knowing God's character: He never deals with two things at the same time. He's very tidy. Stashes the church body out of the way, then gives full attention to those jews, till they finally ''get it''.
      Another one: Look in Rev. Suddenly by chapter 4, no church body mentioned.
      But as for ''just call upon the name of the Lord'' I'm afraid theres more to it than that. It's going to require repentance and turning from worldly and wicked way, and go and sin no more; give up yer beer drinking and druggie friends,no more vulgarity, dirty jokes.....thats what true Conversion is. Loving the ways of God, and hating the ways of the world. Put on the New Man which is In Christ. And the Holy Spirit is not taking up residence in a dirty vessel.
      Count the Cost. But what ya give up or He took away from you was all the stuff that was bad for ya anyhow. Good riddance to it all, lol. A whole lot of changing goes on; mandatory. And its totally great.

  15. As for money. Well I am not addicted to it, but the whole force behind it is that everybody demands it. Pay up or we turn your lights out, and let you freeze in winter and roast in summer. Rent due. What other choice is there. Its just impossible to exist without money. I think there will always have to be some form of exchange for goods and services, regardless of how truly worthless it is, or how we view it.
    I don't think its money that is the problem; it's the System we are under and how it has been too easy for unrighteous people to manipulate it; and people in power positions; liars and thieves and evil people. People are the problem. But one thing for sure, value is way out of whack. Here, our avg. household income a few years ago was $43,000 per yr. At that same time a decent house in a decent safe area was 200-240,000. Where does that make sense??

  16. There needs to be included in the system harmony with the Universe. We might ask who could decide on such things yet an A note was decided to be 432hz around 1929 or so from its previous 440hz. This is being used since that time. Who decided to change it and why? Yet it is not change regularly since it is only what it means to each one of us. If math similarly were changed for personal benefit, explained away using words, we can see how that would result in a cacaphony, a very out of tune math and musical insane people who could rarely achieve true harmony or accurate measurements. Once people realize this, that the laws of the the Universe are in harmony and that we must also keep that harmony, beleifs will change. So many like to use words to twist things, little white lies and nearly always it is some selfish "little" thing in the mind of the creator of it that then leads to some beleif. Beliefs need to be based on reality and the harmony of the Universe, the creator's or Great Sprit's song.

  17. I think "threat, coercion, and usurpation" can be added to "under conditions of fraud and duress" and abbreviated with the initials: TDCFU! I have used this a couple of times to invalidate certain presentments after asking: "what would happen if I do not sign this". Any consequential action would be counted as a threat.

    Usurpation is the original nature of government when we realize that we can govern ourselves without any interferences. Any form that requires a signature of acceptance that is issued by the government can be invalidated under TDCFU.

  18. What you say is God's honest truth, BUT it is not practical for me or anyone else to load up my car with wheat, or oil, and anything else that I may have and drive around looking to trade it with someone who has exactly what I need. Money is convenient. And marks in a ledger are useful to pay my mortgage or certain bills. and money fits in my purse, but not a bushel of wheat.

  19. The first major difficulty factor I perceive is the swing of value dictated by supply and demand. I don't envision how this can be put together mathematically as a universal means of exchange but I will maintain an opened mind and help if I can


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