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Thursday, May 9, 2019

"Lawful" in What Sense?

By Anna Von Reitz

This morning I have had a rash of emails and calls from people who have gone to their banks and issued their demand for their accounts to be "denominated" in "lawful money".  In return, the bankers are offering them a classic Bunko excuse.  To quote directly:

"In 1933, Congress changed the law so that all U.S. coins and currency (including Federal Reserve notes), regardless of when issued, constitutes "legal tender" for all purposes. Federal and state courts since then have repeatedly held that Federal Reserve notes are also "lawful money." Milam v. U.S., 524 F.2d 629 (9th Cir. 1974), is typical of the federal and state court cases holding that Federal Reserve notes are "lawful money." In Milam, the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit reviewed a judgment denying relief to an individual who sought to redeem a $50 Federal Reserve Bank Note in "lawful money." The United States tendered Milam $50 in Federal Reserve notes, but Milam refused the notes, asserting that "lawful money" must be gold or silver. The Ninth Circuit, noting that this matter had been put to rest by the U.S. Supreme Court nearly a century before in the Legal Tender Cases (Juilliard v. Greenman), 110 U.S. 421 (1884), rejected this assertion as frivolous and affirmed the judgment."

My students have long ago learned to pay attention to exactly how words are presented --- how they are capitalized or not --- and also to look up legal meanings of words.  The word "lawful" is not capitalized and when you look up the meaning of "lawful" it is simply whether or not something is subject to a system of laws. 

Nobody would argue that Lincoln's Greenbacks or the present Federal Reserve Notes are not subject to a system of law --- and therefore can be described as "lawful money" even though they are "legal tender", but at the same time Legal Tender is not Lawful Money, as in actual money. 

Legal tender of the Federal Reserve Note kind is called "Money of Account" --- meaning credit --- for a reason. The reason for that is that the actual asset backing it, is not present.  So credit is being extended in the belief that there is an actual asset, something of value, backing the "Note" which is in fact an I.O.U.

In the case of Lincoln's Greenbacks, they were being backed by Treasury Bonds issued to investors who brought in actual gold and silver to purchase the Bonds for a period of 10 or 40 years (the origin of the "1040" Form) with the expectation that after that time period elapsed, the bonds would "mature" and the banks would pay out the principal plus interest also in gold or silver.

Instead what happened is that the banks issued  "legal tender" -- that is, credit as repayment, and there was a mini-rebellion in the 1880's when investors in the original Treasury Bonds objected to receiving "credit" instead of actual gold or silver as their reward for buying Lincoln's "Ten or Forty" Bonds.

Issuing credit, as we have learned, actually costs the banks nothing actual and factual, so they take in gold and silver and extend "credit"  as "legal tender" and stand there acting as if this is a legitimate and equitable transaction when it clearly is not.  

The US Supreme Court stooped to the level of using "words and terms of art" to create an appearance that it was all okay -- "lawful money" as opposed to "Lawful Money" --- but it still isn't okay and credit is still not the same as actual money.

Actual money has value as a commodity in and of itself.  Gold and silver are "Lawful Money" because you can sell both in the marketplace as separate, free-standing commodities. United States Notes are also "lawful money" backed by oil assets.  To avoid this bit of legal charlatanism, call it "actual money" or "Lawful Money" and explain it to the banks if they question your demand for "Lawful Money".  

In fact, the demand for "lawful money" in the context of 12 USC 411 already tells the banks that any "notes" that they credit to your account need to be "denominated as "United States Notes" not "Federal Reserve Notes" because in the context of 12 USC 411 that is the only interpretation possible, unless of course, the banks want to start backing their credit with totally foreign currencies.

In the United States at this time, the only "Notes" that stand as "lawful money" are "United States Notes".

This is because (1) the Federal Reserve Board bankrupted the "Federal Reserve System" in 2009 and (2) since then, the Federal Reserve Banks have not stood behind the Federal Reserve Notes with any assets of their own at risk and (3) this leaves the "Federal Reserve Notes" backed by the "good faith and credit" of the members of Congress acting as the Municipal Government of Washington, DC ---- and you can judge for yourselves what that is worth. 

United States Dollars issued since 1971 have been backed by oil, instead of gold or silver and "United States Notes" therefore are being backed by oil.  United States Notes are "lawful money" -- that is, credit notes backed by actual assets --- but they are not Lawful Money, that is,  not Actual Money, in that they have no value as a commodity in-and-of themselves. 

So don't let the banks baffle you with BS on this issue. 

The only US money that can be considered "lawful" money in the sense of the Legal Tender Cases are United States Notes --- USN's.  And the only US Money that can be considered true Lawful Money are United States Silver Dollars. 

Now, the banks don't have any United States Silver Dollars (and aren't set up to handle them if they did) and they most likely don't have enough United States Notes to meet demand, either, so what they can do is to "denominate" the digits associated with your account "as" United States Notes. 

This basically means, "We don't have enough United States Notes to pay you in USN's, but we can admit that these digits in your account are considered to be United States Notes."

Why would that matter?  Because United States Notes have value based on an actual commodity and are then presumed to be actual assets belonging to the account holders. They can't be seized by the bank because of that little fact and also the fact that USN's are issued by the United States, not the bankrupted Federal Reserve System.

When the BATF used to go on "raids" and ransack people's homes under gun-point for the IRS and steal everything of any value, they would seize any jewelry or stock certificates, records, checks, ---anything of value--- except American Silver Dollars.  Those they would never touch.  Why?  Because their system can't deal in actual true Lawful Money and because those dollars were issued by a foreign government.  Those dollars belong to the actual United States, not "the" United States.

So when you are dealing with these dishonest devils, be aware and be on your guard and don't let them sidestep or deceive you.  Step back on your heel and ask, "Lawful money in what sense?  I am talking about United States Notes instead of Federal Reserve Notes.  What are you talking about?" 

And when they bridle up, knowing that they've been caught in their offered subterfuge, you might step back another step and eyeball the guilty parties and say, "The reference to 12 USC 411 makes that clear enough in context, doesn't it?  The Legal Tender cases you are referencing concerned Lincoln's Greenbacks, for goodness sakes!  Since when do you or I trade in Greenbacks?" 

Or even more pointedly, smile ingratiatingly and say, "Oh, but then, which "United States" would you be referencing? The actual United States?  Or the United States Territorial Government?  Or the United States Municipal Government?"

About then, the banker is going to realize if he hasn't already, that he is not going to get away with this bunko act, and should retreat back into his office, where he should hurriedly add the USN designation to your account balances.

The bottom line is that you prefer money backed by oil to money backed by the hot air of the dishonest, spendthrift, run amok "US CONGRESS" and it is up to you to make sure that your local bankers get the message and credit your accounts accordingly.  It's your credit.  If you want lawful money, they have to provide it or go out of business.

Every time you do so, more of the "US National Debt" gets paid down.  More jolly good.  See to it.  And don't let bankers or lawyers sell you (1) wooden nickels or (2) bunko excuses.


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  1. A very clear and comprehensive explanation of this 12 USC 411 Federal Reserve Act - Remedy can be seen here:

  2. dol-ar

    Blacks Law defines "dol" (dohl or dol), n. [French "deceit;
    fraud"] Civil Law, fraud committed in inducing another to enter into a contract. See fraud in the inducement under FRAUD. Cf FRAUDE.

    Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary Eleventh Edition defines the suffix "-ar" adj suffix [ME,fr, L -aris, alter. of -alis -al]: of or relating to :being : resembling

    1. Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary Eleventh Edition defines "Dollar" as Taler, or from Joachimstaler.

      Is a "Dollar" a "Jokers Tally?"

  3. And here is David Merrill's website:


  4. David a very intelligent patriot who gives a good account of the meaning of 12USC411....!! However, even he has trouble in court when he was trying to exempt his church property from taxes and licensing....!! He demanded to see the judges oath of office (which is also fiat), and the judge saw fit to change the ending of his oath of office which ends in ..."so help me god", to...SO HELP ME GOD...!! the judges mind , this is the equilivalent of crossing your fingers behind your back when telling someone their word is good, when it isn't because he crossed his fingers behind his back nullifying the contract....!! This is how far the courts will go to shelter themselves from "liability"...!!

    But as a side note, Blacks Law Dictionary (6th edition), labels all forms of money under the "M's for money, except one, which appears under the "R" section of the dictionary for "Real Money"...!! They don't call it lawful money, they call it "real money"...!!

    But even under the UCC this currency doesn t even qualify as "NOTES" because they still have to be backed by something of value...!! The courts are never going to admit that "WE" are the asset...!! So they say it is backed by oil, which is still a LIE...!!

    1. Read the Dispatch of Merchants by James Avery, Anna has mentioned law merchant law before, I heard it from Winston Shrout. He has used the term money of account as credit, and has used the term "money of substance" as a way to describe what you call real money. That may be a more useful descriptive term but there is no question words are tricky. That is all lawyers have is words, that is their whole life. Pretty sad when you think about it.

  5. This is the entire reason why everyone needs to rally together and start demanding that the IRS be eliminated....!! And it doesn't matter if taxes were meant for corporations....we can figure out and sort the whole corporate thing out after we eliminate the IRS...!! Until then even corporations can't be under the jurisdiction of the IRS....!! WE can just tell them instead of paying the IRS you can give all your employees a heafty raise...make sense...!!

    1. Field McConnell said on a recent Abel Danger video that the IRS is gone as of Aug 1 this year. Since the Fed is in bankruptcy with no charter it is logical that the IRS is down the same hole but just doesn't know it's dead yet.

      Just the messenger...

    2. But then why is the IRS threatening everyone to file this year, with all radio stations are promoting law offices and accounting agencies just so you don't get in trouble with them, or will not back down from previous filings ....Dont kid yourself, the IRS still has power ...and they still have the blessings of the county recorders office, which legally verifies their Lein filings as legitimate as far as the courts are concerned...Someone needs to bring criminal charges against the DA' s dept. because ultimately they are in charge of all the county recorders filings....I wrote to them and brought to their attention that they are committing fraud by filing liens by a bankrupt and insolvent corporation, and even mentioning the fact that the FED has lost its charter...!!

      Her (it's always a she in the DA DEPT), said her office is doing everything legally....RIGHT..!!
      This is what our BAR schools produce...competely ignorant and stupid attorneys....and with a lot of authority...!!!

    3. This fraud does require a lower echelon of ignorant minions, and useful idiots, with a sprinkling of apologizing sycophants to make the con seem legit.

      James as you, and Paul, and many other people including myself, this likely won't go away easily. It does look like Washington D.C. et al, is not going quietly into that good night. American Intelligence Media is very busy basically confirming through their extensive research what Anna has also said is that Britain (the fake Queen and privy council) is the main culprit here, as it was since the founding of the republic. Nothing has really changed.

      You just keep a good stiff upper British lip and keep the con going until you prevail or the palace walls crumble around you. Many folks here have said that they just keep going forward with their plans until something changes their orbit in a destructive way. If more people really knew the truth it would make it that much more difficult for the criminals to blithely keep moving forward as though nothing has changed.

      Don't underestimate the allure of pomp and privilege, and the desire to keep the perks going at all costs. These are some the most boorish and at the same time dangerous people this side of the Jesuit mafia. Well...the Jesuit mafia takes top spot.

      Look here is how it sits. Everyone is frozen in position not wanting to make a move because nobody knows what lies on the other side where they can't see. That is why nobody on this side knows what to make of it. It is fear of the unknown. Nobody knows if life will ever be the same, so the status quo keeps people moving on a treadmill with no motion forward, but plenty backward.

      As James is elucidating, and I think Anna has said, they all think their procedure is right because nobody told them it is fraud. It's just all they know how to do for a living.

      This is the kind of revelation that will start many people's heads rotating when they find their world view is challenged. Many people can't do it, they just don't have the mindset to process it, grieve over it, shrug it off and move ahead towards a new sunrise and a much better existence.

  6. Unrelated to the article but I found this to be very interesting as to hollywoods role in all of this mess
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  7. Anna Anna please watch this video from yusef el and judge dale proof the people are sovereign please comment
    Also this video
    this is a banker that proves you dont need a SSN to open a bank
    account he gives the law that says its a felony even for them to ask for your SSN could this be true PLESAE COMMENT

    1. Tony; about it being a felony to ask for SSN, I found this...

      Response to Request for Taxpayer Identification Number

      To Whom It May Concern;
      I am in receipt of your request for a Taxpayer Identification Number (TIN).
      While the Internal Revenue Code permits a person (by regulation) to request a TIN from anyone, the regulations promulgated by the Secretary of the Treasury are crystal clear concerning who is under a legal duty to furnish a number in response to such a request.  The issue of requesting and furnishing a TIN is controlled by 26 CFR 301.6109 et seq.  26 CFR 301.6109-1(c) specifies who is required to furnish a number “under authority of law”; to wit:
      “If the person making the return, statement, or other document does not know the taxpayer identifying number of the other person, and such other person is one that is described in paragraph (b)(2)(i), (ii), (iii), or (vi) of this section, such person must request the other person's number. The request should state that the identifying number is required to be furnished under authority of law.”
      Who are these persons from whom an identifying number is required under authority of law?
      26 CFR §301.6109-1(b)(2)(i):  A foreign person that has income effectively connected with the conduct of a U.S. trade or business… 26 CFR §301.6109-1(b)(2)(ii):  A foreign person that has a U.S. office or place of business… 26 CFR §301.6109-1(b)(2)(iii):  A nonresident alien treated as a resident… 26 CFR §301.6109-1(b)(2)(vi):  A foreign person that furnishes a withholding certificate described in Sec. 1.1441-1(e)(2)…
      The four classes of persons listed above are the only people who are required by law to provide a TIN to a requestor. 
      US citizens and US corporations are required to furnish a TIN only if acting as a withholding agent upon a Nonresident Alien or a foreign corporation.  A person engaging in such withholding is referred to in tax law as a “US person”. [See 26 USC, Chapter 3, et seq.]  And of course that has absolutely nothing to do with me, or our business together.
      Since I am a native born in Alaska, I am obviously not any one of the person “require...under authority of law” to furnish a number.
      Additionally, the IRS’ own Privacy Act statement says:
      “Respondents should be aware that…no person shall be subject to any penalty for failing to comply with a collection of information if it does not display a valid OMB control number.
      You will note that the Form W-9 does not display any OMB control number because the form is merely a request for status, not a required form.
      Furthermore, the federal courts have stated:
      “The revenue laws are a code or system in regulation of tax assessment and collection.  They relate to taxpayers, and not to nontaxpayers.  The latter are without their scope.  No procedure is prescribed for nontaxpayers, and no attempt is made to annul any of their rights and remedies in due course of law.  With them [nontaxpayers] Congress does not assume to deal, and they are neither of the subject nor of the object of the revenue laws”.
      – Economy Plumbing and Heating Co. v. United States, 470 F. 2d 585 (1972)
      To assist You, I can make available a nontaxpayer status affidavit (available upon request) to this letter/notice.  I appreciate your compliance with the law.
      Please feel free to retain this letter in your files for your reliance.

  8. this guy is absolutely brilliant when it comes to words and the meaning of. this vid is the best i have ever seen on the subject and when combined with anna's knowledge puts one on the fast track, if one is so inclined. All his vids under the justinian deception channel are well worth watching.

  9. also, just want to thank the rest here for putting up exceptional quality content in the comments. It is a lot easier to read without the gilded -rap that was coming from some commentators previously.

  10. Lawful money can be demanded by people, by choice of the option provided in HJR-192 and as codified in 12 USC 411, and to demand a full discharge of the related obligations when said lawful money as United States Notes in the form of Federal Reserve Notes are presented as payment for same, to wit:

    On April 5, 1933, the physical possession and legal title to lawful money (gold) was taken from the people. But the people had to retain the equitable title to this lawful money or else it would have amounted to theft, and Congressman Louis Thomas McFadden’s charges of theft and treason on May 23, 1933 lodged with the Judiciary would have required prosecution.

    These charges were mitigated by the passing of HJR 192 on June 5, 1933 which provided for the possibility of “discharge upon payment” of all obligations. This remedy was subtly effected by two United States Codes:

    1.> 12 USC 411 which provides access to this lawful money “upon demand”,

    and 2.> 12 USC 95a(2) which assures “full discharge” of all obligations upon assignment or transfer of payments to the United States.

    Later, the State provided people a Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) as evidence of the people’s equitable title to their labor taken by the State at birth (to mitigate similar charges of theft and involuntary servitude).

    This COLB creates a PERSON identified by the NAME of an INFANT that is presumed abandoned by the mother/informant at a birth event and, after seven years of non-appearance/activity, is also presumed dead, enabling the State to become the Executor of the INFANT’s “estate” in probate. However, this presumption of death always has the possibility of being rebutted by a subsequent “appearance” of the INFANT as being “alive”. Therefore, this equitable title exists in the form of a “reversionary interest” in this INFANT’s property/labor “estate”. Once Proof of Life* for INFANT is established, said “reversionary interest” in the decedent’s estate re-vests in the INFANT as the “living beneficiary” of same. Said INFANT must thereafter, in order to honorably perform the terms of the 1933 constructive trust to discharge obligations incurred by said INFANT, assign or transfer (partially or wholly) said “reversionary interest”, in the form of lawful money demanded (12 USC 411), to the United States who, in turn, as trustee thereof, must then apply said lawful money interest payment as full discharge of the obligation to the extent thereof by operation of law (12 USC 95a(2)).

  11. Here is the essential short version
    In red ink @45' angle on any presentment:

    1. Accepted for Value, Exempt from Levy
    2. By John Paul Doe May 9, 2019
    3. Deposit to the United States Treasury
    and charge the same to:
    4. JOHN PAUL DOE 123-45-6789

  12. Here is the long version:
    This presentment is accepted for assessed value and returned in exchange for settlement and closure of this accounting, certified and sworn on the commercial liability of the authorized representative as true, correct, and complete, with all related endorsements front and back. Pre-paid; exempt from levy. Adjust the account and release the orders to the authorized representative immediately.

    By John Paul Doe May 9, 2019
    Deposit to the United States Treasury and charge the same to:
    JOHN PAUL DOE 123-45-6789

  13. It would appear that the bankers are ramping up in a very quick order the roll out of 5G or whatever it may be - activity going on everywhere all over the country
    The same treason that is going on in Canada is the same treason we have in the United States no doubt what so ever
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  14. So, can someone please tell me if this article proves that having the money in one's bank account registered as USNs is the solution which protects your money from bank bail-ins? (or even if it's a maybe?)

    1. If you look at what Anna said about BATF avoiding money of substance like American silver dollars, you could speculate that USNs are safe. The problem is as Anna also said, those same USNs are foreign to the banks, so what would they pay out in, what form would it take? She mentioned silver coins which is a recognized form of money of substance.

      So what could a bank give you? They can't issue an IOU or any of the usual instruments they are accustomed to working with since money of account has no intrinsic value unless the "system" is still functioning properly.

      Could the banks issue a statement of account indicating the balance of your account in USNs that serves as a presentment to a silver dealer for settlement?

    2. From Anna Von Reitz:

      Yes, they can't seize lawful money as easily or use the same excuses, which is one of the reasons we recommend making the demand. The switch to USN's also pays down the US National Debt, which is another good reason to do it. Finally, if you start doing your banking on a private basis, it underlines the fact that you are serious about your standing as an American.

    3. Paul, could you expound on that "banking on a private basis"?

  15. Many groups offering information on the fraud that has been perpetrated on the US and many other nations all over the world
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