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Tuesday, August 28, 2018

News for All U.S. Vets -----


By Anna Von Reitz

You have not been discharged from military service. A DD 214 is not what it appears to be and is not sufficient to do the job.

To get completely out and away and to receive the money and credit you are actually owed requires you to "discharge yourself"---- like discharging yourself from the hospital.

The form needed to do this is the DD 2168 which is readily available on the internet as an interactive form you can fill out and then print off and sign.


The instructions about where to send it are with the online form and includes Coast Guard.

For those of you who served in more than one branch of the service, it is necessary to add a brief "itinerary" of service, for example, "I was inducted into the Coast Guard on May 3, 1989 at Long Beach, California and served four years prior to discharge on June 5, 1993. I then joined the U.S. Marine Corps......."

This blow-by-blow is necessary because the bureaucrats need to sequentially process the paperwork releasing you from each branch of service.

The latest information I have from the military is that you should send in DD 2168's to each branch you served in and include a copy of your service itinerary with each one, so that they can coordinate your final discharge.

Upon final discharge you are free to return to private life and to your birthright political status and to receive all service-related perks that you are owed.

Obviously, until you are fully, finally, and absolutely released from all presumptions and obligations of military service, you cannot return to your natural and original political status as an American state national, so for all of those who have followed my instructions to recoup your birthright standing, this is one more hoop for those who have served in the US military.

Letter to Accompany DD 2168

Dear Sirs: 

My intention in submitting this "application" is to allow you to access my service record and satisfy yourselves that I am properly and completely discharged from any other, further, or additional claim or service obligation referenced by Public Law 95-202 and the associated Executive Order.  

It is my wish and intention that I shall be recognized now and forevermore as fully, completely, and permanently discharged from U.S. military service and severed from the accompanying obligations of federal citizenship.  

I have returned to my natural birthright political status and removed my permanent domicile to the land and soil of my birth state. 

Please confirm my election to be removed from any further claim of federal connection effective with my date of discharge as shown on the DD 214 associated with my name.   

Sincerely yours, 

by:  Your First Middle Last
c/o Your Address



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120 comments:

  1. Every time you turn around it's always something else with b.s.

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    1. You are b.s. whoever what ever rock you called slug!

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    2. He or she or it was supposed to be blocked...I will gix tnis.

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    3. Unknown r u voting for Killary again in 2020 if she isn't in jail yet?

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  2. You mean they retain a claim over us? Oh like DMV,BANK ACC,SS,14 ammendment U.S. citizen , state property privileged to use thair land ,federal claim on our production.

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    1. it means you receive a Certificate of Service proving you actually served, if the proof is needed possible for applying for benefits, and proving you were officially discharged from service. But obviously if you were not then you are in dereliction of duty and/or still do benefits as an active serviceman ???

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  3. It would appear that the lack of the DD2168 is the reason why vets are treated so poorly. They are still classified somewhere as active duty I suppose.

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  4. My husbands retirement and disability is the only money we have available right now. We are afraid that if he files that form that the payments may stop.

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    1. As a 'Beneficiary', to 'whatever', no one can touch what you are heir to. Answer: Your hubby, the human being, (as with anyone)was never getting (anything) the pensions now was he? 'HUBBY' is getting them. And, 'Hubby', needs to make sure he is the what...? *Starts with a 'B'. ;)

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  5. Anna.. could you be a little more specific for us disabled veterans?

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  6. Well, the payments are earned, owed by law. VA has job adds and a lot of other stuff for US Citizens. So if a relative of yours fought in the Revolutionary War they were not a U.S. Citizen since that did not start until 1860s. Signing up I got a lot of fine print contracts enough it would take a day or two two to read and you are offered of course to read it if you want to get hung up and wait, pay your own hotel etc. so most just sign and keep on movin not knowing what was just agreed to. My experience is you may have to send the forms a few times or make calls. Even while on active duty it took years sometimes to find a competant voice on the other end that knew what you were asking and who would take care of it often right away. It is a good idea to get it straignt that you are an American National and not listed as forecloseable collateral on the United States debt unconstitutional "money" system. The nationals own the country and constitute govenments. U.S. Citizens are subjects and the law in several cases points out that a citizen is the same as a subject. Hmmm. Check out how to write a proper letter to the Queen that is for obedient, loyal monarch loving subjects and see if you really wanna be one or be an American National with no monarch and by declaration a government that is of, by for to and from the people who by law are the monarchs here in The United States of America not King George and the empires United States service company.

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  7. Is a hotlink available for "the DD 2168 ... on the internet as an interactive form ..."?
    Thanks!
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    1. Are you that lazy? Read above & work for your freedom... I googled it and yes it is there to do your homework, thank you!

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    2. I'd like to have Anna, Paul or another trustworthy soul provide
      a hotlink for "the DD 2168 ... on the internet as an interactive form ...". I saw several sites in my search results that included at least a mention of this form and that fact underscored my wanting "the one" that Anna might have had in mind. (I prefer to avoid new sites and all the unexpected pop-ups, etc.)

      Speaking of mind - you, "Jasun", do not know me and you have no idea of all the hours that I spend researching Law and related subjects to verify material that other people present and that I typically prefer to have links for when I post at one of my several blogs. And as far as working "for my freedom" I have about thirty-eight years doing just that. How many years do you have my friend? Have a nice day!
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    4. chef https://www.dco.uscg.mil/Portals/9/NMC/pdfs/records_request/dd_2168.pdf
      you can also google DD-2168

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  8. Thk You Judge Anna & Paul, Just It's Time To Hear The Truth, & Help Our Men & Women For There Services .

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  9. Pardon me but it looks like you must be free from military obligations BEFORE FILING for your birthright political status.

    (1) Upon final discharge you are free to return to private life and to your birthright political status and to receive all service-related perks that you are owed.

    (2) Obviously, until you are fully, finally, and absolutely released from all presumptions and obligations of military service, you cannot return to your natural and original political status as an American state national, so for all of those who have followed my instructions to recoup your birthright standing, this is one more hoop for those who have served in the US military.

    (3) It is my wish and intention that I shall be recognized now and forevermore as fully, completely, and permanently discharged from U.S. military service and severed from the accompanying obligations of federal citizenship.

    (4) I have returned to my natural birthright political status and removed my permanent domicile to the land and soil of my birth state.

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    1. Odddog yes you are right no job in Gov. at all, plus you cannot live on Federal propriety. Then one can do there paperwork forwards to be landed.

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    2. Olddog sorry I caught that, I need glasses. Also l am on a IPhone 6+. Peace!

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    3. Yes, Olddog, that's exactly what Anna is saying.

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  10. This form is to submit personal verification that the individual served in the armed forces under "penalties" of perjury. that means being tried twice for same crime! Like if a man served in the Merchant Marines for example or WWll verterans. I have found no other usage for this form. So if you have proof that this form is for what you claim it to be please provide it. Making such presumptions and directing people to follow thru at their own risk without actual proof is like putting your hands in a cobra's nest cause someone said it wasn't there.

    AUTHORITY: Public Law 95-202, Sec. 401, and EO 9397.
    PRINCIPAL PURPOSE(S): To assist the Secretaries of the Armed Forces in determining if applicant was member of a group which has been found to have performed active military service, and, after an affirmative finding as to the applicant, to assist the Secretary of an Armed Force in issuing an appropriate certificate of service.

    ROUTINE USE(S): The information may be released to the civilian employer or contractual group or the Department of Homeland Security (for Coast Guard applicants)
    to support the member's claim. To the Department of Veterans Affairs to provide substantiation for benefit eligibility. To the Department of Justice in pending or potential
    litigation to which the record is pertinent.

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    1. LOL SO... you cut and paste the information directly from the application and clearly don't comprehend what it is saying ???
      It assists in the issue of a "certificate of service" which then may be released for certain circumstances where the information is required, kinda like a Birth Certificate.
      LOL so verifying your service information under PofP is some how being tried twice for a crime???

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    2. yet you still following ??? HAHAHA !!!!!

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  11. FOLLOW THE FACTS IGNORE THE UNKNOWN! It is a pitiful pet of perversion and it knows no better!
    ARGUEING WITH UNKNOWN STUPIDITY WILL ONLY MAKE ONE AS STUPID AS THIS UNKNOWN VICTEM OF MASS PEDOPHILLIA!

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  12. We all know that we hear all the time that So and So received an ''Honorable Discharge from the Army'' or was dishonorably discharged. That to me sounds like a legitimate Discharge, since discharge means Discharge.

    I remember when employers would ask to see ones Discharge papers for certain employment. That was ONLY to see if they were Honorable or Dishonorable, sort of as a form of reference to their background check.

    As far as I know, IF the 214 wasn't a full discharge (?) it would only be leaving a door open to Recall a veteran back to Duty. I would think if one is DISABLED, that is very unlikely to happen.

    More playing with words now? Discharge now does not mean Discharge?

    Im not military, but I know that I was born as a National in a particular month on the 6th; my BC is not registered by the rats until about the middle of the following month, on the 15th. After that, nobody has asked me if I wanted to change my Status, and since I havent changed it, if somebody else did, then as far as I'm concerned I am still a National and all else is null and void.

    Give it all the big Stroke of the Pen and put an end to it. What is done can be undone the same way.

    I am also curious if Mr. James Belcher has ever had a face to face meeting with President Trump? Have you ever thought of doing that, and if not, why not?

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  13. Anna, wanted to come back to the blog and say thank you so much. I completed your editable forms. Used them to get a private, unincorporated and non-taxable EIN. Used them to change the status of SS#. I combined your forms with the SS-4, with W8-BEN, with my own very explicit instructs to the IRS what I wanted them to do. They did exactly what I told them, word for word. Here was the surprise: I received the EIN, exactly like I had instructed, but with explicit instructions from them, to me. They gave me an office, to which, when I want to communicate or make changes, that is the only office for me to contact and not to use the number issued, but to provide the name, exactly like it is on the EIN document received. Everything is to be in writing, they will not answer questions over the phone, as it is private. So, I decided to try calling one of the other offices. no records of me are found within the IRS data base. PRIVATE-THE EIN IS PRIVATE AND THE SS# IS PRIVATE. Neither was found in the data base! Success! I was not going to apply for SS benefits, but did and made very explicit instructions to them, SS BENEFITS-ISSUED and I was given a special contact address and was told to only contact that particular address. I did some research online about those addresses and was thoroughly amazed, in a good way, what I found out about those addresses. Let me just say, private service centers exist!
    My status with the U.S. govt, has been changed! Now, I am working on the state. They are not co-operating as easily, but I am cracking that armor and I can see the cracks. This entire mess, is like peeling back an onion, a layer at a time.
    What I have learned. SS#'s can be public or private. Driver's license can be public or private. Your blogs caused me to think about these things and the true applications of law and equity. Keep doing exactly what you are doing...to those of us who truly want to live free...in our natural...(with spiritual lives in order)...your writings are a God send! Gotta go now, dealing with the STATE!
    Ps. UNKNOWN...YOU DON'T KNOW YOUR BACKSIDE FROM A HOLE IN THE GROUND!

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    1. Thanks for sharing this, C. Johnson. Very important point!

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    2. Chris, its just like passports for Nationals...the U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT has set up special passport centers. The agents there understand the Nationals and have been very helpful to obtain the passports. But, an appointment is necessary and you must go to those centers to apply in person. Check out this from SEC. OF STATE website. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/News/passports/special-passport-acceptance-fairs.html
      Do study, on IRS website, about non-residents. Its all on their website. It's all there, but none of us have known where to look. ps. you are welcome!

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    3. By the way Chris....the goof ball UNKNOWN, needs to tell the U.S, Sec. of State and the I.R.S. this is all horse...! He needs to demand they take this stuff off their websites! LOL!
      HERE'S THE IRS LINK: https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/nonresident-aliens
      Oh and read this 28 U.S. Code § 3002 - Definitions. Pay particular attention to section 8, the definition of U.S. for purposes of U.S. tax courts. I guess UNKNOWN can call that horse..., too! Notice how Congress, in this act, made a distinction between regular U.S. courts and tax courts? Congress agrees with Anna!

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    4. Posted for Anna:

      Dear C. Johnson, would love to talk to you directly and find out more about your communications with both IRS and SSA. It is indeed possible to get everything straightened out, but so few people have been determined and asked for the service that over time it has gotten harder to make the right connections. Getting the right addresses is often key to success. Would you be willing to do a little research and share what you find out for other readers who are not as adept at tracking these things down?


      Anna Maria

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    5. C. Johnson Anna would like to have your email address so she can discuss some of this with you.

      Please email her at avannavon@gmail.com

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    6. paul did you get the emails?

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  14. This is no news. This is horseshit.

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    1. Ucadia, nobody here gives a flying crap what you think. I have a father who died on active duty, a nephew who was poisoned by vaccines in gulf war, a best friend who died because of cancer after being sprayed with agent orange, my brother in law died 6 years ago 100% disabled from agent orange, a nephew whose liver and other organs are destroyed because of the cleaning chemicals used to clean jet fighters and I have another nephew suffering from PTSD, from being in Irag and AFGHANISTAN. I have a grand nephew ready to go to S. Africa and another one on a sub God only knows where. All U.S. citizens and all suffered or have died because of it. So, take your BS and shove it! I am sick of losing people I love, because of the U.S. elites and their wars. So I really don't give a rip what you think, you treasonous.....!

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    2. FYI....I have a friend whose name is on the wall! You are nothing more than a punk!A treasonous punk!

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    3. ucadia by the way you prejudice bigot....when does patriotism have a skin color? I am an American and I am proud of it. If you don't like it...get off the land of America and go back to the U.S. that's DC by the way!

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    4. BE easy "disabled vet" could mean shrapnel to the brain, or they misdiagnosed his limp wrist with an actual injury???
      UCADIA my ass what a rip-off artist, more like Ecclesia Fraud-ation.

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  15. has anyone seen this?(only concerns Californians.
    https://www.newcaliforniastate.com/documents

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    1. people everywhere are waking up, internationally and are sick of the abuse of power and they are realizing the people are the power. get find...awesome stuff!

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  16. I actually have my discharge document framed. I think this is just another load of horse shit to get you to file some crap in "their" system. Just my opinion.

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    1. John just this one comment. As a military vet, your LEGAL status was classified as U.S.CITIZEN. If you choose to remain a U.S. CITIZEN, you choose. But, legally there is a major difference between a U.S. CITIZEN and a NATIONAL[or better said: American State vs. U.S. STATE]. In the legal system there is a distinction between those states and the people of those states. Anna's form is not for them, its for you, to reclaim your American State BIRTHRIGHT status. You are either An American or a U.S.CITIZEN, but according to acts of Congress and the Constitution, you are not both! The inferior status is U.S. CITIZEN and comes with all the loss of rights and the fines, penalties and fees. Now, just an FYI: thank you for your service to America and the People of America. Isn't it time, you left the U.S. and come home to the LAND, you served to protect?

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  17. Real, living men & women DO NOT have first, middle & last names
    persons, legal fictions, fictions in law, individuals,idiots, wards of the court, corporations, et al. do.

    COME OUT OF THE BEAST.

    Living sentient souls have given & family names.

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  18. Katman you are both right and wrong. You are right in the fact we are living souls with family names. But, there are times we want to use commerce, too. This is why understanding the 3 identities is so important. living soul, natural person and the (YECH) legal person. (FYI all these are legal, including your living soul description.) The use of the natural person identity is the most important. It is the persona grata for the living soul (in other words the natural flesh and blood body of the living soul). The persona grata is the natural man and woman who can choose to operate in commerce or not. The persona grate is the ONLY TRUE AND LIVING, REPRESENTATIVE 'ON EARTH' of the LIVING SOUL. The living soul, has all rights unalienable given by the creator. the persona grate has all rights secured by the CONSTITUTION. The legal person has only human/civil rights given by and allowed by the govt. the human/civil rights are govt controlled and can be govt taken away by legislative acts. they are the benefit/privileges of having govt control. But, the unalienable rights of the living soul are without the govt at all. the secured rights of the persona grata are subject to the laws of mankind, but the supreme law over these rights, is the bill of rights. these rights can not be taken by legislative acts, rules or regulations. they can only be taken by the persona grata violating the constitution or bill of rights of someone else. Perona grata can waive rights of own freewill. persona grata has to understand how not to waive rights. Everything I now post is both lawful and legal. Become familiar with your three identities and keep them all on the private, non-public side.

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    1. Katman, let me add this: a RECORD (call it a file) of you, is in the filing cabinets of the (alleged) powers that be. On that file is a name. The NAME is in all capitals and sometimes, backwards and sometimes with initials. That file, with that name was created by birth certificate or cert. of live birth. Whenever a name change occurs, the name on that file gets changed. (like when women gets married). That 'LEGAL' name change, changes that 'LEGAL FILE NAME'. It does not change the family name to which you referred. It changed the way, the system recognizes you LEGALLY on its file (record). The name on that file is not the persona grata name. The name on that file (record) is the LEGAL NAME, for the fictious LEGAL PERSON. Through you life, that record/file is change...if you go to jail..if you get married...if you go into the military....if you get divorced...if you have children...if your children die....when you get a job....whatever!The problem is the name on that file is only a representative of you the natural persona grata, its not the real you: the living soul within the persona grata. So, who changes the record/file? You do, the persona grata. How do you change it? By your signature on LEGAL FORMS (contracts). That file is not PRIVATE, it is PUBLIC. Unless you take advantage of the PRIVACY ACT OF 1974 and give explicit instructions that file/record be made private. Most people think just because that record/file is in govt hands its private and so they never do anything to CHANGE THE RECORD. The only files/records that are PUBLIC are corporate individuals (legal person). Private individuals, non-corporate/unincorporated (personal grata) are not keep in the PUBLIC RECORDS. But, the question is have you by the hand of your persona grata, re-established your nationality and true citizenship and changed the record/file? FYI universally (heaven and earth-living soul) and internationally (on earth-natural persona grata individual) has the right to choose nationality and citizenship for their LEGAL PERSON (file/record). By universal and international law, no man or woman can be without a country citizenship. So citizenship is conferred by birth. However, at the age of majority, nationality and citizenship can be willingly chosen and the record changed. The U.S. CITIZEN/PERSON is a corporate entity file/record. As a corporate entity it has no right to privacy or rights of the persona grata, so what are you going to do about changing the record, on and for the record (file)? FYI: names: John Doe,family name. John Jake Doe, persona grate/natural individual. JOHN JAKE DOE, the file/record name..the PUBLIC RECORD that anyone in govt or whoever govt determines can see and review, without your private permission. All records/files are public, until made private!This is why I love Anna's forms, they help to change the record, on and for the record.

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    2. FYI, once you change the record....you can no longer call govt about anything. You can write them. But, the records are private and they will not discuss them over the phone. No record exists and no records will be discussed. The public record is moved to private records and must be accessed IN WRITING ONLY by the private persona grata, owner of the record/file or by pursuant to FOIA. You as the persona grata from that time forward, delegate who and who cannot access your file/record, but its all in writing.

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    3. C.Johnson, This a rhetorical question. "By universal and international law, no man or woman can be without a country citizenship." Isn't this just the rulers telling the ruled that we cannot allow you to be stateless and under God's law?

      Or to put it another way, We cannot allow you to be above the concept of Man's law. We cannot allow you to be the director of government. We cannot recognize the living soul as the creator of government to which we must be subservient, so we created the concept of "natural person" so that you can participate in our commercial system and be subservient to US when you do!

      I tend to view the body as an expression of the soul, not a representative of same. But that doesn't fit the scheme. To undue it would require the abolition of Admiralty/maritime all together. Now, wouldn't that be a hoot!

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    4. Rog, man since time began, has been trying to have dominion over man. yes to everything you said. But, when I post, its regarding the thinking of the leaders of the system. Do they think like you and me? NO! That is why this is all foreign to us. To normal thinking men and women, it is hard to get our minds around the crap they think up to entrap us. Rog, in your comment you are thinking like a normal man/woman/child would think. But, my friend, none of this is normal. It's foreign, strange, unconscionable, fraudulent, maniacal. But, remember they rule and reign (right now) and they will do anything to keep their power. They sit around thinking of ways to keep us all slaves.
      See for us, we see we are the body and some of us maybe a soul. They see them as separate and have given a name to the body, without the soul. That name is natural and persona grata. That body is the vessel, in which the living soul, (who can leave the Earth without the body)is only making use of while on the land (earth). In their thinking and in laws that vessel is not the living soul. It is only a REPRESENTATION of something. That something it represents is the living soul. Now, the living soul can not be seen by men or women. Only the natural body can be seen. Thus in their concoctions, the living soul is impossible to legislate, regulate or rule. It has unalienable rights given by its creator and you can not put a living soul in jail or murder a living soul. remember a living soul continues to live without a body, so you can't murder or kill it, so when they murder and kill they have caused no harm or injury to 'A LIVING SOUL'.a LS who can make it do anything? You can't see it, touch it, whatever! But, they can take the natural body into captivity by legislation, regulation and rules, since the natural body is only an EARTH (land) vessel. They did that by the bill of rights. You see the bill of rights was added to the Constitution. Before that happened, total freedom existed on the land of America. The bill of rights did not free mankind, it restricted mankind. That bill of rights is for the NATURAL INDIVDUAL (non-man, non-woman, non-child), his rights are secured by the Constitution. Then they went a step further; they created and forced through the 14th amendment U.S. CITIZEN/SLAVE. His rights are human/civil and are delegated to him by the govt. They give him rights, they take them away whenever they want to. That citizen is their slave/puppet. These are the 3 identities, to be fully aware of and understand how to use them. Neither you nor I created this insanity, they did, right now, they are holding the cards...until the people wake up. it's their game for the time being. This body vessel thing goes all the way back to EGYPT and the Pharaohs and is teaching of the catholic church.

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    5. ps ROG...this is what we are truly dealing with
      https://www.realmofhistory.com/2018/01/16/15-ancient-egyptian-gods-goddesses-facts/

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    6. C., the point of the question was to nudge those caught in the never ending quest for the "silver bullet" they believe will be found in some statute somewhere or for assuming the proper "capacity" toward understanding the true nature of the parties we encounter when dealing with government and who we are in relation to them.

      I applaud your work with EIN and SSN status, but those things are still within the framework of positive law. And it appears, from what you have accomplished, that they have thrown us a bone; given us a way to move from the kids table to the adult table. But it is still their table! Yes, having a private EIN and SSN may permit you to work and have a bank account etc. and not be liable for their taxes but you are still jumping through their hoops, albeit a separate set of hoops.

      RB Young once told me his goal was to rise above all of that and to operate as a Man, made in God's image. He had managed to convince the local Feds in kalispell that the only thing he needed to cross the border into and out of Canada was a Bible in his hand. And he did it, too.

      Private person, natural person are both persons. They are both legal constructs. The entire concept of "person" is in conflict with natural law. In legal land I may be a Man operating in the capacity of the person of Dentist which, in effect, separates me from the person known as a Dentist. In Natural law, I am a Man who knows something about dentistry and helps others out of their dental misery. There is no "person" or other there, only a Man with particular knowledge. Do you see the difference?

      I often hear, in response to this line of thinking, that THEY don't recognize a Man made in God's image; that THEY will use capacity against you, so watch out! Truth is, they not only recognize a Man, but they are scared shitless of him and will use any trick in the book to drag him into their world.

      I support Anna's work because, on one level she is attacking the problem at the root, the proper relationship of the parties. If that work is successful it will restore the court system to its proper function. But to play their games in court, or in dealing with government in general, only prolongs the game they are playing. If karl lentz has anything right, it is that statutory law does not apply to a Man (except in cases of injury or harm, and Batman has proven that even in cases of injury or harm the statutes are commercial and if one knows what they are doing one can get away with murder).

      The point of this diatribe is that we must look forward. We must change our minds about how we deal with the hired help. Sure, at this point, trying to convince your "employer" that he is not only in violation of the IRC but engaged in criminal activity by forcing you to adhere to what he believes is "law" is a tough roe to hoe. But we only prolong the game by playing it. Cont.

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    7. You say they are holding the cards. No, we are holding the cards and we have a straight flush only we don't recognize what we are holding. Just peruse Title 18 USC. It is chock full of "our side" of the law. It is replete with penalties for wrong doers in government. Using it may be necessary at first to alert these people that we are on to their game, but that is an act of war and we must be judicial in our use of it. The goal is peace, not war.

      I have been at this a long time and I know of all the things you bring up. I have spent years trying to sort them out, going down rabbit holes and asking stupid questions and proposing silly "remedies." All in an effort to understand the machinations of what these people are doing. I don't have a 500 IQ or a gozillion terabit hard drive wired to my brain necessary to fully understand what the devil has made. I only have the knowledge that what they have made is a counterfeit, fake, a labyrinth that once entered into, is nearly impossible to find your way out.

      I don't know why some men seek power over others. Seems to me they are applying for the job of janitor. Once you gain control of the world you still have to paint it every ten years or so or the siding begins to rot. I do know that they gained power because we trusted them. It's time for the householder to return and put the maid back into her place. And that must be done in our minds first. Once you understand the proper relationship between the parties, then the work of correcting it can be done. THAT part is what we are dealing with now. It may be as simple as saying NO! Wouldn't THAT be a hoot!

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    8. Rog, for most of us, we know the problem, and we know a lot about the remedies as well. But the big snag is, Enforcement.

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  19. Rog, I mostly agree with everything you said, but you are looking to the masses to throw everything out. That thought is unrealistic. Here's why, the majority of the masses want people to govern them. You are talking about total freedom from govt and I'm very good with that, but is it possible and is it realistic to think you will find others to agree? probably not. That's the issue. If you choose to live completely without govt, as a man, you can so choose. But, the wall you are going to run into is this....the system....is still going to through its tentacles around you somewhere, somehow. You are talking idealistically. Idealistically we could all throw off this tyrannical mess and start everything again as fresh. But, realistically how long would normal men and women, live without govt? See this is why Benjamin Franklin said: we gave you a republic if you can hold onto it. A republic is free men and women doing whatever in their own lives without govt. But, before the ink was dry on the paper, here comes the bill of rights. Why? people want freedom, but not really!
    I tend to be more realistic. We have a terrible system and the more we can teach others to live, free, within this mess, the freer they will be. I do not look for the masses to throw off the system: the fear, the unknown, the uncertainty gets the best of them. Rog, we can't even get people to do Anna's paperwork, how do we get them to throw off the system. HUMAN NATURE IS PEOPLE WOULD RATHER SUFFER-TREMENDOUSLY THAN TO THROW OFF THE ONES WHO ARE CAUSING THEM TO SUFFER.
    FROM THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE: When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.

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    1. PS. ROG about title 18, I am taking a SC government official to task right now about a letter, that has of 20 fraud deficiences, that include treason and sedition. But, title 18 is still the system, still man's laws.

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    2. PS. Again, love Karl Lentz and he is absolutely right, statutory law does not apply to NATURAL MAN (INDIVIDUAL-PERSONA GRATA) unless by willing consent that NATURAL INDIVIDUAL (MAN OR WOMAN) waives their rights. Now, the waiving thing...is where this conversation can get incredibly deep, because that is where most people exist right now, is in the waived rights! Most people live their entire lives within the WAIVED rights!

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  20. C. I appreciate your response. I will take issue with you on one thing and then move on. You talk of persona grata, one who is acceptable or welcome to...a foreign government, the "person" they recognize. I get the impression, correct me if I'm wrong, you consider this to be the body separate from the "living soul," am I on the right track here?

    I don't argue this point, I just disagree. Soul+body of homo sapiens sapiens=living soul=Man (all creations of God). It was to Man that God gave dominion over the earth, not some disembodied soul. This view separates Man from Person and does not confer personhood upon the body as some sort of birthright; which kinda changes things a bit. The concept of person can then be thrown out like last year's Halloween mask.

    Ok, You are right people are sheep. Why not lead them into freedom? If there is one thing Man is good at, it's adapting to new circumstances.

    Yes, I'm idealistic. Would we have our cars if someone hadn't thought, hey, maybe I can harness this explosive stuff, gas, and put it to work?

    Idealism is the last refuge of the cornered, which refers to Abby's question about enforcement. I'm not sure how to enforce this stuff without violence if the owners decide they have had enough of our meddling except to replace it. They are certainly not above genocide if the slaves protest too much. I am seeing evidence that this is exactly what is going on is some courts. Things like bailiffs tearing up paperwork because they don't like the way a Man signed it, V.C., without prejudice, na, etc. thereby forcing them to go with the program OR ELSE! We can go after them using the code, but then, well you get the picture.

    The system is Satanic. Those who defend stuff like the "Public Trust" and our "duty" to reduce the debt are little more than snowflake socialists. I don't approve of the public trust anymore than I believe I have some duty to pay the debts of a gang of criminals. The system is SO evil and SO over burdened its demise is all but assured. I believe most people can only tolerate so much evil and quickly tire of it. We are seeing rumblings of this in the number of whistle blowers and such coming out of the woodwork.

    Side topic. I believe Mandel House was relaying policy to Wilson in the famous bit about the ancient system of pledges because it appears in a letter between bankers here and the Rothschild brothers in England some 60 or 70 years earlier almost word for word. To believe this system was set up for our benefit is in conflict with the stated policy.

    We are stuck in a situation where evil has tipped the seesaw so heavily to one side that nature will demand balance. One thing I've noticed about nature, she doesn't F#&% around! She is a drama queen, she likes a good show. I think the best we can do is be ready with a new plan when she wraps up the story in the last scene. And by the way, I'm no longer an anarchist , accepting human nature for what it is, rather some other form of governance based wholly on negative, natural law.

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  21. Rog, you are right about what I said. But, understand what I said has nothing to do with the way you and or I would see things. We are not the ones who set the entire madness of the system up. We don't think, behave, believe, act like the mad MAGICIANS that set the entire thing up. See this is why it is so hard for people who don't think like mad MAGICIANS to get what is actually occurring. You have to be able to leave normal thinking of men and women and somehow begin to see what is, instead of what is not. What I have been sharing with you is what is...within the system. It truly is just like the movie the matrix. What is....is very difficult for normal men and women to see, because normal men and women are not pychopaths who believe and practice the ancient egyptian religions. I agree the system is evil...because it was definitely created by satan worshippers. (THAT IS HARD FOR NORMAL PEOPLE TO SEE, TOO.) So what I am hopefully helping you to understand is this: I am not disputing what you are posting...I totally agree...but you must go deeper. What you see and post is part of it, but there is more. Don't give up what you already have, just add to it. Add what I am saying, because this thing is mega and you need to see it all. Its just like in the matrix, NEO in the beginning was seeing it, but he wasn't seeing it all. It took the entire movie for him to see it all. Idealistically for the system to be gone would be great...but realistically, most people (who don't see the truth) would protect the system and lock you up as the madman. Most people still believe by voting for the same pycho's they are going to be able to change the system. The system is bought and paid for well above the punks who get elected. However the system is a pyramid (egypt again) and what happens if the individual stones in the bottom of the pyramid begin to move and say to themselves, I don't want to be a stone in this pyramid anymore, because this pyramid is corrupt? What do you think will happen to the top stones? Here's something:'TO THE PEOPLE IN MYSTERY BABYLON....COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE AND BE NOT A PARTAKER OF HER PLAGUES (THE PLAGUES SHE CAUSES MANKIND) AND GIVE HER DOUBLE FOR WHAT SHE HAS DONE! I am beginning to see stones at the bottom of the pyramid are moving, one over here and one over there and cracks are taking place, lets keep helping the stones, understand how to cause cracks!And lets be louder and more aggressive about it that paid shills like UCADIA/UNKNOWN (who is the same person by the way). Teach...teach...teach...Teach! Wake up the stones at the bottom of the pyramid. What do you think, would happen if the next time they held and election, the voting booths were 100% empty? No guns, no wars, no fight, no nothing! Just empty voting booths?

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    1. Rog Ps. I don't know if you follow Christ, but here's the thing: BE WISE AS SERPENTS, BUT GENTLE AS DOVES. We need to be smart: which allows us to be idealistic and realistic. But, let's not leave out wisdom as part of the mix.

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  22. C. The foundation is rotten. It's just a matter of time.

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  23. Yes my DD214 created an additional 'Cestui que'

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  24. What about the back pay we are all due from the Cestui que Trust that was created when we joined up and when we ETS'd?
    I want what is mine! I want all Veterans to have the full benefits and WEALTH $$ they deserve!

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    1. Dee Doubwe, even though this is very complex..I will try to keep this simple (don't lol, at me, because I have a difficult time with keeping it simple). Anyway, by Cert. of Live Birth...you were given dual citizenship. National and U.S. CITIZEN. National is the Superior Citizenship. You did not ex-pat National when you agreed on military paperwork to MAKE USE OF...your other citizenship U.S.CITIZEN (inferior). You have both, because of that Cert. of Live Birth. Understand, you only MADE USE OF the U.S. CITIZENSHIP. Now, you can decide to not MAKE USE OF it again and now MAKE USE OF you National Citizenship. Thus Anna's paperwork. That's as simple as I can make it.
      It's like this, a resident of the U.S. has to pay taxes. A non-resident of the U.S. does not. Now, in a 12 month time period, a person can be a resident and then change to non-resident. This non-resident and resident stuff is called legal status. IT CAN CHANGE IN THE YEAR. Taxes for that person are adjusted, based on that status. The issue is this....people do not know they can change their status, anytime they choose.
      So your status as a vet, will not change, nor are you authorizing the govt. to change that status, pursuant to law they can't do it anyway. Once a vet always a vet. The status that you change is your citizenship from you inferior (secondary) back to your superior (primary) status. You had both status' the entire time you were in the military, you just did not know it. You have had both since birth (issuance of the certificate). Before issuance of that certificate (those few days of nativity after you exited your mother's womb, prior to your birth by certificate issuance), for those first couple of days you were a National only. That was your NATURAL WOMB NATIVITY. But, then they issued the Cert. of Live Birth and caused an UN-NATURAL BIRTH (NON-WOMB) on paper. By that paper they gave you, YOU RECEIVED your second citizenship (U.S. CITIZENSHIP). You MADE USE OF THAT CITIZENSHIP for military purposes. That is also the citizenship you MAKE USE OF when you get a driver's license or a bank account. Call that citizenship UN-NATURAL or NATURALIZED, because its not natural to men and women. It is a conveyance to you, it is a fiction, it is not real. They conveyed it to you for you to MAKE USE OF. Now, you decide if you want to MAKE USE OF THAT CONVEYANCE or not. But, FACT: you had dual citizenship in the military, you have had dual-citizenship since leaving the military, you have dual citizenship now. They can not deny you those rights of dual citizenship. SEE U.S. TITLE 8 for more inform. Good bless and thank you for your service!

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    2. C. Johnson--
      Thanks for your great explanation! One point of clarification, please: It was not the Certificate of Live Birth (the one with the mother's and doctor's signatures) that caused the UN-NATURAL BIRTH; it was the Birth Certificate (the one that looks like a bond) that did so. Correct?

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    3. genevieve....you can look at it like this: everything before your mother's signature on that application (before she gave her baby to the state custody) was your nativity. It actually began approximately nine months before and continued to the point in time the signature was put on the application. The signatures of us all is when all changes, amendments, etc...happens. After this signature....oh well, what is done is done, until an amendment with another signature occurs. The power of all transactions is at the time of the signature. This is why it is so important for your private signatory to know what it is signing on your behalf. Your mother was the signatory, who ended your nativity and caused the birth to take place. The birth occurred not because of you coming out of the womb. That is the nativity. The birth happened when your mother put her signature on the application for the certificate and thereby ended your nativity. Understand....the legal person is only a record of you. It is not you! The legal person is: a name on a bank account, a driver's license, a marriage license, a DD-214. The legal person is not a LS or a natural individual (with flesh and bone-a body). It has no body, no flesh, no soul, no blood....its a file in a filing cabinet that has a name on it that is not yours. They took your name....they mis-constructed it..and they use the mis-construction to identify you. Mis-construction is fraud in all courts. But, be very quiet about this...because you are not supposed to know this. So it does not matter the certificate or bond or license. The legal person is an UN-NATURAL BIRTH. It is a birth on paperwork, by paperwork. It is UN-NATURAL because it is not a womb, 9 month thing, the nativity. It's only a signature on paper birth. The birth is the U.S. CITIZEN. The womb one-is not a birth....it is a nativity...it is NATURAL and it is the NATIONAL occurrence. A baby (non-infant) had nativity on the land of a several State. That is the natural way all NATIONALS arrive in this country. They have a nativity here. I never had a birth in this country, but I did have a nativity on the land of one of the several States, known as America. Does this make it clear technically. This is all legal: technicalities. I know this is difiicult to understand...but this is how they separate the nationals from the U.S. CITIZENS.

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    4. Genevieve, about your signature on paper...without it there is no jurisdiction for them. That's why they always want you to sign something. That signature....is the wheels of the machine. Without your signature, no wheels. Learn how to use your signature wisely. That signature is your willing consent to be governed. If you don't give them willing consent, they can't govern you. Obtaining that signature is the crown jewel for them. The lie, cheat, steal and commit all acts of fraud against you to get that signature on their paper. That signature is your permission for them to do exactly what they want to do! Without it....HOUSTON....THERE IS A PROBLEM! The power is without a shadow of a doubt...in the pen! This is why I tell everyone learn contracts and learn how to make great contracts. Trump is using contracts daily and look how powerful he is and how things are changing. The entire thing is contracts....signatures on paper!

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    5. C. Johnson: What a wonderfully thorough explanation you've given! Thank you very very much. Guess what? I have a question! Given your explanation, why is so much emphasis put on which evidence of birth (COLB vs. BC) to use when clarifying one's status?

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    6. genevieve: Certificates of live birth are issued to people with nativity on the land of one of the several states. birth certificates are issued to U.S. Citizens who have nativity in DC and/or the territories and possessions to parents who are not Nationals. Having parents or yourself having nativity on the land of a several State makes them Nationals.
      The Mariner Islands and American Samoa are not U.S. CITIZENS and they are not NATIONALS, they are U.S. NATIONALS. Puerto Rico and the other territories are U.S. CITIZENS and are not U.S. NATIONALS or Nationals. DC is U.S. CITIZENS and not Nationals or U.S. NATIONALS. The only way anyone who has their nativity in DC or any of the territories, can have the same dual citizenship as someone with a Certificate of Live Birth, is if they have a parent who is a National. So Certificate of Live Births are for Nationals only. Birth Certificates are for U.S. PERSONS (U.S. NATIONALS AND U.S. CITIZENS WITHOUT parents who are nationals). The U.S. THING IN FRONT OF THE CITIZENSHIP STATUS, MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE. Study US TITLE 8 FOR MORE INFO. The govt created all this stuff, so it could establish if jurisdiction lawfully and legally over certain persons. The only jurisdiction they have over Nationals is the Constitution and Bill of rights.

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    7. Ps. Truly if a person has nativity in DC or one of the territories and does not have AMERICAN NATIONAL parents: those people are not AMERICANS...they were born in a foreign country. Just as Germany is another country, so is DC and the territories. They are in no way connected to America. They belong to the United States. They are wholly separate from us.

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    8. Wow! You've really been able to figure it out! (I'd bet you're a heckuva' chess player.) Thank you for your explanation.

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    9. Genevieve, I don't play chess. But after 15 years of studying and praying and seeking and asking and knocking, the picture came into full focus. After many epiphanies I understood what they did and why they did what they did and that is what I tell people in plain english. This is what happened, this is why it happened and this is what you can do about it. Most, people want me to give them some type of procedure to get them out of whatever they are in....the mess! But, I don't give them procedures. I tell them straight up what happened and what's going on. After that most people can figure out for themselves and their own situations what they need to do about it. To me procedures are milk bottles. I want people to have the meat, to meat that they know not of. I know if they eat that meat, they will be able to handle everything concerning them. A lot of times the stuff I say is blunt and to the point. But, sometimes that's needful to blast off all the crap they have fallen prey to. But, for the people who will listen, they will find, this is the exact way it has to be. People are drowning and we do not have time to play games, when they are going down with their last breathe. My theory is jerk them up by the hair if need be, just get them out of the whirlpool thats sucking them down. So no, I don't know the first thing about chess playing, but I sure as heck can help someone to not drown. I hope I have helped you. God bless!

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    10. C. Johnson, thank you for your timely and detailed response!
      So, what about the alleged back pay that was rumored by Anna on this issue. She said one was due all back pay..I presume this means since my ETS some 30+ years ago I have been paid x $ per month as a mercinary without my knowledge or consent.
      So when I convert back to 100% National by filing form 2168, will they send me a check for my backpay and any other benefits I may be due?
      I will do the conversion either way as I value my National status and care not to be a US debt slave...
      However, i don't like the idea of unjustly if not criminally not being paid my just due and I am sure nobody else does either.
      Also, given what you've written I am now wondering if I was issued the correct CoLB or simply a BC by my Birth state which I acquired under the presumption that I may visit Indonesia some day. I understand the Long Form is much more detailed than the Short Form but which is most important?
      I have already submitted and received Authentication from my Birth State of Maryland and am now somewhat hesitant to forward them to the Federal Government for their Authentication as I am wondering if I even need to bother since they are the ones I am trying to get out from under and put them back UNDER Me and my Authority where they belong!
      If I am due pay and benefits that I can utilize without giving up my Sovereingty, I'm all for it! As long as none of it puts me back UNDER their jurisdiction.
      I know there are advantages to having everything housed in a Trust but it is really necessary to have a Trust to be fully protected from their Tyranny in the first place?
      Or is it a simple matter of my just BEING WHO and WHAT I am in the first place, a Sovereign American National with SUPERIOR rights and POWER over the Rats no matter what they attempt to lable my body. As long as I use the correct verbage when dealing with them and watch what I sign or say, am I already good to go?
      Or is doing all that paperwork to supposedly get free of them actually necessary in the first place?
      I know this. I want out from the trap and I shall be free of it one way or the other.
      As a 'BEING' body's can be a real pain the ars even though BEING's don't have an ars much less a body! :D

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    11. Deb here's the point. Whether you claim National or U.S. CITIZEN....STATUS....you are CLAIMING [REMEMBER THAT, YOU ARE MAKING A CLAIM PER A CONTRACT] what you have been promised. You made a contract to serve....now you are due the benefits of the contract. Both forms of dual citizenship is due benefits of the contract. You are simply changing status from public back to private life. Secondly, I am never authenticated my CofLB. I have researched it. But, I personally, for my private reasons have found no need to do it. When asked I have found no one who has done it, that can explain why! See I personally have a problem with all these procedures that are floating around the internet. I am a firm believer in: IF I DON'T KNOW FULLY WHAT THE HECK I AM DOING, THEN DON'T DO IT. See in changing your status from public to private, you are simply making a choice between your 2 dual citizenships. You are choosing which one you want to use at this time in your life. That's it. Finally about the CoLB or the B/C, it says what it is on the certificate. what does you certificate say? If you were born on the land of a several state, if will say CoLB. Lastly, if you want out of the trap, do this: SERIOUSLY TO YOUR CORE, STUDY AND THINK ABOUT THE 3 IDENTITIES I POSTED. IF YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE 3 IDENTITIES, I POSTED A LOT ABOUT THEM ON ANNA'S BLOG: http://www.paulstramer.net/2018/10/did-you-go-to-law-school-or-legal-school.html
      PEOPLE THINK THEY ONLY HAVE ONE IDENTITY....THEY ARE WRONG. THEY HAVE 3. IF YOU LEARN THEM, AND COME TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO USE THEM, THEN YOU CAN USE THEM TO MOVE IN AND OUT OF THE SYSTEM AT WILL AND MAKE GREAT CONTRACTS.
      DEE....LEARN TO MAKE GREAT CONTRACTS! LIVE FREE!

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    12. Got it, thanks!
      So, I just filled out and mailed in my DD2168 today.
      So I'm moving back into the Private sector, so to speak, as far as the Military goes..
      I also plan to change my Status on my SS-5 to Legal Alien allowed to work.
      That's the only other option I can check from what I can tell. I do not want to be considered a US Citizen in any case.
      So back to DD2168, I have asked this question 2 times now with no answer. Are you avoiding the question? Anna says that once my DD2168 is approved, I am then entitled to all back benefits including back pay, in so many words. Will the Army do this automatically and send me a check for the monies they owe me for 30+ years of involuntary servatude? One for both my Statuses? ;)
      That would be nice!
      Or am I going to have to fill out yet more forms to get what I am entitled to? And if so, what forms are they?
      I agree with you about all the procedures floating around out here. I am not gullible enough to take anyone words seriously where so called remedies and procedures go with regard my Status.
      I do like what you're saying about Operating in Contracts. I know practially everything we do is a contract of some sort be it written or oral, formalized or not.
      I do believe knowing how to OPERATE is important and Key to geting on with my Dual Status life and livingness.
      I also find it comforting that given I learn well enough that I can operate in either Status without co-mingling between Private and Public.
      I understand the difference between getting stuck in all the significances and keeping it simple. Simplicity comes about with Comprehension as one can more easily apply data in a pracitcal and competent and safe manner without getting trapped by the Rats!
      Thanks!
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    13. Dee....YOU ARE NOT A LEGAL ALIEN....if you had nativity on the land of one of the 50 States...several States...united States of America. If you have the cert. of live birth, you are an AMERICAN [STATE] NATIONAL. Unless you are a REGISTERED operator, owner, agent, principal, employer or employee [of your own company] your status is: private, unincorporated, non-domestic, non-resident, American State National, National, non-U.S. CITIZEN, non-U.S. person. TAKE NOTE OF THE 'NON' THING. Your status is the opposite of everything that would identify you as a U.S. CITIZEN. If you sate you are a LEGAL ALIEN....you are stating you are a foreigner, living here with papers issued by the federal govt....WHICH WOULD MAKE YOU "LEGAL". If you are here in this country...LEGALLY...you are not a National. If you are here....LEGALLY...you are subject to the...LEGAL SYSTEM...and you are here by green card or by visa! Nationals are not here....LEGALLY! Nationals are here because they had nativity on the land of the several States, by divine plan of their creator and that nativity occurred completely without the...LEGAL...system. Dee I am going to tell you what I tell so many others. Do not do anything until you understand what you are doing. There is nothing about any of this that you can do as a quick fix. THERE ARE NO QUICK FIXES! NONE...ZILCH! ANYONE WHO TELLS YOU THERE ARE QUICK FIXES OR YOU JUST NEED TO DO THIS OR THAT PROCEDURE...BE VERY CAUTIOUS. I don't know if you have noticed but Anna doesn't put out a lot of do this or do that stuff. Why? Because what she puts out is researched and she knows what it is and how to use it and puts it in the simpliest terms. But, even with that, you must research for yourself the info given. The rest of your life and the ability to forever live free, depends on your knowing what to do and how to do it without any assistance from anyone else. When you get to that point...then you will be able to take care of our your private life issues. I answered your question about the benefits. Read my last post again and consume it. AND WITH THE BENEFITS THING...I WILL SAY AGAIN....YOU MUST UNDERSTAND ABOUT YOUR 3 IDENTITIES. The 3 identities is the linch pen for the entire system. Now, about the DD2168, I am not a vet, I do not know about that form. So I can not answer what you should or should not do about it. I have not researched it at all. But, I can tell you with all surety, whether you receive your benefits as a private woman or public person, your CONTRACT with the military entitles you to the BENEFITS of MILITARY SERVICE. Those benefits are yours, upon the completion of your contract, its not based on the fact you are now returning from service to your home state (a several State).

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    14. PS. Dee...not only can you receive those benefits by living in your home state as a private woman, you could move to Mexico or France or wherever. Your benefits are not determined by where you make your home (NON-resident). Understand, the several States (50 of them) are NON-U.S...they are Republics and are entirely distinct and separate from the United States. Please read my comments on http://www.paulstramer.net/2018/10/did-you-go-to-law-school-or-legal-school.html
      By you changing everything over to private, are simply moving back to your RURAL ROUTE address and you are dropping the zip code address. You are moving out of the status of DOMESTIC address...to NON-DOMESTIC address. And just think, you don't even have to call a moving company. You are simply changing your status. That's it! You can changing status from a residence to a home. You are changing from a STATE to a state. You are changing status from PUBLIC to Private. You are going from citizen to national.

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    15. Thanks
      Interestingly enough I just got done reading what you suggested previously about my 3 ID's! Yes, I completely understand and thanks for clarifying and verifying what I knew and was wondering if I had it right in the first place. ;)
      I love your explanations, they're very eye opening!
      I know there are no quick fixes no matter the recipes others come out with...I realized a while back that I need to know this stuff cold and be able to operate competently of and on my own and in my own square! I have no problem with that.
      As for form ss5 there are only 3 options, 1 citizen, 2 legal alien, 3 Other and its options do not apply to me either.
      So since I have 3 ID's anyway, I might as well just leave it alone as it is US Citizen anyway since it's for the LEGAL namesake Entity anyway.
      I know that I can utilize the LEGAL entity's benefits or not use them.
      I know I can be a Private People when pulled over by a revenuer and have fun with them trying to trick me into submitting to their jurisdiction...peacefully and even enjoyably as well as educational for them too.
      I'm still learning how to balance all this and am far from what I would call 100% competent if not 100% confident either.
      I just want to cut through all the time wasting BS that's out here and cut to the chase and get this all under my belt so I can confidently and competently operate thusly! ;)
      Peace

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    16. DEE...BRAVO...you are so on the right track. It truly is about cutting through the crap and see the system and how the system actually works. so many people are trying to work the system, but they don't know how it works, so they can work it. So many people all they want is procedures, for this or that or what....but they fail to see, procedures will not help them if they don't understand what happened, what's happening and what will happen in the future. If they will understand what you just stated and really get it, in their core...our world will be a very different place. I never teach anyone to go spend time ready legislation. I teach them to go study the Constitution. Sometimes I will direct them to statutes that apply, but not very often. Because they PEOPLE DO NOT NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT STATUTES, REGS OR RULES, if they will only learn how things work. I hope people will stop trying to learn procedures and start learning how the system functions.

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    18. C. Johnson. So how do we all learn HOW things work, exactly and take the reigns and make things happen for ourselves and our fellow's?
      Do you teach this?
      Thanks!

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    19. DEE what you are asking is this: ARE YOU DUE DISCHARGE DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR. The answer is yes and that answer is found in the CFR and this court case Perry v. United States, 294 U.S. 330 (1935). It is a violation of the Constitution for the govt to take the private property of private people to use it for public services unless just compensation is paid. In that court case, which involves the gold standard, Perry lost, because he failed to prove when the gold was taken Congress did not provide a dollar for dollar provision. The court also ruled the U.S. GOVT. could not set the standard on the gold/silver because of that dollar for dollar provision. They said Congress would act illegally if they had that provision and the power to set the gold standard. So yes, for everything you allow the govt to make use of for public purposes you are the creditor and you have a right to the just compensation. It is in the Constitution and in every State constitution. However, Congress did not make the FEDERAL RESERVE the authority for debt discharge. That authority was given to the ATTORNEY GENERAL. He is the overseer of the bankruptcy. Anyone who tries to obtain their dollar for dollar discharge from the TREASURY OR FEDERAL RESERVE, is committing fraud and does not know the law. They need to read that court case and the CFR. Now, just how do you obtain the dollar for dollar discharge? They don't tell us. Like so many things, they make it law without any provisions for obtaining it. No law requires then to provide the provisions for obtaining our rights. Oh they are great for stating we have them, but the means to obtain them, is something totally different. I know this after studying the CFR, the right of discharge is there. How to get it....has to be somehow through the office of the attorney general and not through the office of the TREASURY.

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    20. PS. AS ANNA ALWAYS TRIES TO CONVEY IN HER WRITINGS...WE ARE DUE IT...BUT IT IS NOT PROVIDED! That is why she fights!

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    21. Dee...now how do you figure out how things work? 1.) You have already started. You are learning and thinking and pondering the 3 identities. That is the starting place...it really is. They are the keys to all the jurisdictions of the system.
      You see, people have not known...like you have now come to realize...you have had and used those 3 identities your whole life. You just didn't know it. Because you didn't know it and because they made the identity of the U.S. CITIZEN [their servant/slave] the most recognized and used...you like the rest of us fell into a trap. That trap is the mis-conception that only one identity exist...with that identity being the U.S. CITIZEN. Let me ask you a question: WHY DO YOU THING TRUMP USES THE STATEMENT 'MAKE AMERICA (NOT-U.S.) GREAT AGAIN? Think about that for a moment. Gotta tell you TRUMP KNOWS! When the new Israel embassy was opened, Ivanka made the opening statement: 'ON BEHALF OF THE UNITED STATES ON AMERICA..."! WHAT??? She was exactly right in her statement. BINGO, IVANKA! So, begin right now where you are and consider the jurisdictions for which your 3 identities exist. I have told you what the identities are and where to find them in the Constitution. Now, once you get the full picture of them and sorted them into their lawful and legal jurisdictions, then decided what you are going to do with them. Stop worrying about legislative or congressional acts. They are null and void if they conflict with the Constitution. Stop trying to figure out procedures. Just focus on the 3 identities, get very familiar with what they are and the implications of how they can be used or not used (your choice). You have always had them, you have been using them, however ineffectively, so learn more about them and understand that NATURAL INDIVIDUAL you have been using throughout your life to make CONTRACTS. Learn contracts and then go make good ones...instead of bad ones. Learn how to improve your contracts, here what a contract is and how its implemented. Learn about breaches of contracts. Learn about contract and you will learn to be free and live free. ITS ALL CONTRACTS...EVERY LAST LAW IN THIS COUNTRY BEGINS AND ENDS WITH CONTRACTS AND PARTIES TO THE CONTRACTS. If you are a party to the CONTRACTS, then make good contracts. I can not stress that enough.

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    22. Ps. This stuff is not FOREIGN TO YOU...you have been doing it your entire life. Just learn to do it better. You are the God of your own contracts.

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    23. Dear C.J!
      I know what you're saying. I have read what you suggested months ago and perhaps I should go back through them again. But I did conclude that A4V does work if done correctly. It is the means by which any debt can be discharged. How one wrights one up and where one sends it makes all the difference between a discharged debt and possible jail time. I agree on what you say about where people have been sending such paperwork leading them into big trouble when all they are trying to do is access and utilize their just due CREDIT!
      I now beleive that the correct way to do it is to send in the A4V to ones Creditor with proper instructions on what they ARE TO DO with it in order to get paid...
      Make sense?
      I have someone telling me and showing me alleged proof of their correct A4V remedy working in paying off all forms of Debt.
      I'm considering going with them and seeing for myself if it works or not. I am of the opinion at this time that there is a very good chance their remedy is correct and does indeed work!
      That's what most folks want, a REMEDY to their financial plight taking that pressure off their backs so they can then learn to become ACES at wheeling and dealing in the 3ID's! ;)
      How about them apples?
      Thanks!
      Dee

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    24. Dee, I did something very different and I used the law to do it. I used the CFR and U.C.C. I decided to stop paying taxes and to move my identity and home state, back to the several State where I live. Then IRS began sending me their bills (statements/whatever). I read the letter attached throughly. That letter gave me 2 codes. But, the thing that really captured my attention was the word "IF". And IF was attached to a sentence that said: LIABLE TO PAY INCOME TAXES! UTT OH! IF I AM LIABLE TO PAY INCOME TAXES???? OK THAT SET ME OFF! I started researching and all the while they sent me a statements. I asked them for proof of my liability. Now, understand, I did not know then what I know now...but that one thing...was a mega set off for me. Those 2 codes...oh they were for corporate individuals...which I AIN'T! (THAT'S MY SOUTHERN SLANG!) Anyway, it was back and forth. I'd get a statement, I'd write them a letter asking for proof of my liability. Nothing, the only thing I received was the same stupid letter and the same stupid two codes. I kept studying and reading CFR and UCC and court rulings. Then I got it...the crown jewel on page 7 of the 1040 form. I read the codes on that page and it all gelled. GOT IT! bingo-banggo! So, I wrote them a letter and I told them...THE DEBT OF THE UNITED STATES IS ITS OWN AND I REFUSE TO ACCEPT THE TRANSFER OF THAT DEBT TO ME EVER AGAIN 28 U.S. Code § 3304. AND AS AN ADDED TOUCH I INCLUDED: UCC 1-304, 1-305, 1-306, 1-307, AND 1-308 AND I told them if they ever contacted me again by the legal name, I would claim mail fraud and ucc 1-242 color of law and RICO. I gave them explicit instructions of how to contact me about any matter regarding the record with that legal name. The only address I gave them was my rural route with zip code exempt. I told them they could send everything concerning that record to the name on the record, as long as it was in care of my Christian Name, but they better never send anything to me again in the name of the legal person. I gave them 30 days to respond with any questions they had, after that the matter is closed and if they attempted to open it again, I would bring criminal prosecution. That was in 2011 and I have never heard from them again. I haven't filed taxes again either. I did have an employer send in W-2 at the end of the year 2009. I did not file, they wrote me a letter asking to change my address on my record, as they needed my signature. I wrote in the signature box, 'AUTHORIZATION DENIED'. I also included a letter, that all access of the IRS to my private records is forbidden as is a violation of the privacy act of 1976. Since 2011, I have heard nothing. I have not moved! I learned what the U.S. is and what it is not! Now, they know that I know! I know the fraud!

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    25. PS. DEE...if you do go and read my comments again...please understand this one thing? 'HOW DID THEY GET JURISDICTION OVER ME?'
      I don't care what laws they right, I don't care the ins and outs of the law, the only thing I care about is this: does that law apply to me? HOW DID THEY GET JURISDICTION OVER ME? HOW? HOW? HOW? The burden of proof is on them! If they can prove they have jurisdiction, ok then, then I'll be their happy little subject/servant and willing be a victim to their laws. But, if they can't prove jurisdiction over me, then they can continue making their laws forever and causing others to be their subject/slaves...I don't care. I don't even think about their laws...unless I am looking for my personal loophole. I look for the loopholes...that is all I do. Then I use the loopholes and ask them to override those loopholes, because if they do, they are operating in the color of law. I don't fight or argue or anything. I simply find the loophole, then I tell them I found the loophole and then I challenge them to trying to operate around it. The loophole are ironclad by the way. If you find them, for your particular situation, you can end anything they say or do! No fighting, no arguing, no nothing. They want to make a claim...ok....I am good with that! But, the loophole says their claim is meaningless. If a police officer shows up at my car window, with a gun and lights flashing and asking me for my id and ins. card and registration, I only have one question to ask him: 'HOW DID YOU GET JURISDICTION OVER ME?' What do you think happens from that point? Most send me on my way, others try to be more forceful...I don't care!With whatever they ask for, I continue to reply: HOW DID YOU GET JURISDICTION OVER ME? Unless the police at my window can answer that question, he has a problem, because he is confined to his jurisdiction. He is liable if he crosses that jurisdiction.
      So as you learn and grow think on that one thing....HOW DID YOU GET JURISDICTION OVER ME? If you will understand the implication of that one question...very few enforcement persons want to climb over that wall! THAT ONE QUESTION IS A MEGA FENCE BETWEEN TWO WORLDS!

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    26. CJ, cool!
      Which CFR Title did you apply to your debt/credit situation? I'm still wrapping my head around U.C.C.1.
      I got it on the window meetings with cops.
      Also, as for dealing with the IRS, I tend to think this simple remedy works pretty good - "I Accept your offer upon proof of claim!" How's that for direct?
      Thanks!
      Dee

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    27. DEE HERE'S THE CFR
      https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text
      I DON'T EVER TELL THEM I ACCEPT ANYTHING. IF YOU ACCEPT YOUR AGREE. IF YOU AGREE...YOU CONTRACT. I don't agree with anything. here's the truth...the burden of proof is on them. ok...so prove it. Them proving their jurisdiction has absolutely nothing to do with me agree. Heck no, I object to everything. THE SKY IS BLUE....I OBJECT....THE PIE IS GOOD....I OBJECT! My question to you is why do you want to be agreeable? Do you know being agreeable it making an IMPLIED CONTRACT? Even if they have proof of claim...I am not going to agree. They fraud everything...more than likely their proof of claim is fraud. I DON'T GIVE A RIP WHAT THEY CLAIM....HOW DID THEY GET JURISDICTION OVER ME...TO EVEN MAKE A CLAIM??? See you are doing what they do, throwing curve balls! I don't give a rip! HOW DID THEY GET JURISDICTION OVER ME? AGAIN...HOW DID THEY GET JURISDICTION OVER ME? AND MAYBE....HOW DID THEY GET JURISDICTION OVER ME? They can claim anything until the cows come home...who cares? HOW DID THEY GET JURISDICTION OVER ME?

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    28. Excellent! :D Love it!
      Well, it was only one method I had heard from some self taught lawyer guy...
      Most say that you will end up doing it your own way at some point.
      Many different constructs can work as well as the other. I recon it's all in getting the intention through their thick skulls to cooperate and do their jobs!
      I do Love your sensible, KISS approach to it all. I am the same way where KISS rules!
      I also love the idea of not having to study tons and tons of crap I don't need to know anyway in order to work the $y$tem righteously.
      So simply by declaring ones 'status' at a given point in time, one can step between any of the 3 ID's in order to accomplish one's goal's.
      I want to try A4V now.
      Thank you for the CFR Link!
      Dee

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    29. DEE...you are most suredly allowed to do the A4V. But, the one who devised that procedure for use...was put in jail in 2018. I studied that PROCEDURE and the people who continue to do it, are being put in jail. Why? because the burden of proof is on the govt and the govt has the burden of proof, that these procedures are not established in law. DEE the A4V 'PROCEDURE' has no fact in law, so then you fall back into trying to use their system and subject to their system. In their system you will find no justice. NONE. ZILCH. When they charge you, they are going to fine you, imprison you or throw away the key. GOOGLE: winston shrout in jail. WINSTON IS THE MAIN GURU OF THAT A4V PROCEDURE. So what did the govt do...because he was the leader...of phoney PROCEDURE? Took down the LEADER and is now taking down the ones who do it! People doing it are going to jail. Now the govt is going after the secured party creditor gurus, too! Why? because as I told you, they have it in law that we have the right....but they never give the procedure. WHY don't they ever give the PROCEDURE? THINK ABOUT IT? If they don't give you the procedure...then you don't have it legally or lawfully. I don't teach procedures....for that very reason. I don't teach anyone how to use the system. I don't teach people how to try to get any benefit/privileges from the system. IF YOU NEVER UNDERSTAND ANYTHING....UNDERSTAND THIS....THE SYSTEM IS 100% CORRUPT...YOU CAN NOT USE IT...TO TRY TO BENEFIT. THERE IS NO BENEFIT OF THE SYSTEM, TO YOU. NONE! ZILCH! NADA! Any benefit/privilege they offer is going to cost you tremendously, even the loss of all property and your life. They will take it all! So DEE, I won't try to prevent you from trying to use the system for A4V, if that is what you want to do. In a Republic we are INDIVIDUALS and there is no one to tell us what to do. I will continue to tell people how the system works and why it works and how we are trapped by it. What I won't do is tell you about procedures on how to use the system. The system is there, you can make use of it however you want, as for me I choose to stay out of it. HOW DID IT GET JURISDICTION OVER ME? A4V...that's how! CONTINUED BELOW...

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    30. It's just like people who claim income tax laws are illegal. No, they are not. They are legal. The federal govt, has an absolute right to make tax laws by using LEGAL to LEGISLATE. Anyone who claims, income taxes are ILLEGAL is an idiot...because they don't know the law. They are unlearned. LET ME SAY THIS CLEARLY ONCE AND FOR ALL: THE TAX LAWS OF THE U.S. ARE 100% LEGAL AND THEY HAVE THE LEGAL RIGHT TO ENFORCE THEM. Legality of the U.S. Tax laws is not even a question. Income Taxes are well established as facts of law...and those facts can absolutely not be disputed in any court in this nation. The problem with the income tax, is all the people who went to jail because they were claiming the income tax is illegally. Now, it is firmly established on and for the record: INCOME TAXES ARE LEGAL...VERY LEGAL...SO LEGAL...PEOPLE HAVE GONE TO JAIL TRYING TO FIGHT THEM. I hope you understand what I am saying about all the PROCEDURES people do. And do you know why people go jail? Because they listen to some guru who created the procedure and the govt. allowed it to work, just enough to ensnare some people to use as sacrificial scapegoat lambs. Then they go after those lambs and make examples out of them and throw them in jail and throw away the key. The govt. is in control...GET THAT! The Constitution gave them certain rights, duties and obligations. They are not shy about using those rights, duties and obligations to ensnare, capture and make examples of people who try to illegally and unlawfully use their system. That's what all these procedures are....they are illegal and unlawful attempts to use the govt system. If you don't get anything from me, get this: YOU CAN NOT USE THE GOVT SYSTEM UNLAWFULLY OR ILLEGALLY. That's why I don't teach anyone how to use the system and neither does ANNA. That is why I like her writings and I don't follow the INTERNET 'SYSTEM USING' GURU'S. The best Anna or I or legitimate PEOPLE OF THE SEVERAL STATES can teach you or offer you is an understanding of the system and the laws concerning your rights, that keep you out of the system. But, neither ANNA nor I teach anyone how to 'USE' the system. DEE...THIS NEXT PART IS GOING TO BE HARSH...
      If you want to make use of the system, then you don't know who you are, you don't understand anything I have been posting and you don't know the 3 identities. You want a quick fix. You talk a good game, but you don't have a clue, what is being said to you. You want to follow the blind...who don't see...and you are going to fall into the ditch. There are many blind leaders of the blind out there...because broad is the way that leads to destruction. Narrow is the way (that leads you home) few there be that find it. What is A4V...its a set up....the govt allowed....to ensnare those that will fall into the ditch. Now, they are taking it down and burying the people that go that way. YOU CAN NOT USE THE SYSTEM AND GET BY WITH IT. IT IS THEIR SYSTEM AND THEY RULE IT COMPLETELY. IF YOU PLAY IN IT YOU HAVE TO PLAY BY THEIR RULES, REGS AND LAWS. A4V IS IN VIOLATION OF THEIR RULES, REGS AND LAWS. THEY LET IT GO, UNTIL IT GREW ENOUGH TO BEGIN TO MAKE EXAMPLES OF SOME PEOPLE....THOSE PEOPLE ARE GOING DOWN. THOSE PEOPLE BROADCASTED THEIR SUCCESSES AND IT WAS ALL ALLOWED, NOW THEY ARE GOING DOWN. Someone can come out of the system...lawfully and legally...but you can't use it...unless you are willing to pay the uttermost farthing...and you will pay!

      DO YOU SEE THE SYSTEM YET? DO YOU SEE HOW IT WORKS YET? What do I say in my posts? you have to understand what was done, how its done and what is being done! DEE....YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND...if you did...you would not be talking to me about A4V! Best wishes to you with that and any other procedures!

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    31. DEE...FYI...AND THEN I'M OUT....THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE WHO TEACH YOU HOW TO COME OUT OF THE WORLD AND THOSE WHO TEACH YOU HOW TO STAY IN IT (AND USE IT FOR WHATEVER BENEFIT...YOU THINK YOU WILL ACHIEVE).
      DEE...if you are going to MAKE USE OF THE SYSTEM...you better darn well learn how to make great contracts! A4V...its a contract...you really don't want to make...the benefit of it...will cost you everything...its a very expense contract in deed!They will let you make it...they will allow you to benefit from it....then they will demand payment for its use!
      You have the right to make unlimited contracts....that is what the law of the Supreme Court Ruling says and the govt can not stop you from making them. The govt is extremely happy to allow you to make all the contracts with them you choose...they will allow you to A4V it and be successful...up until the time they demand payment..the uttermost farthing.
      DEE...learn to make great contracts, if you want to make use of their system (the world)!

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    32. Hi CJ!
      Well, don't panic! I'm not using A4V right now and I may never even try to use it.
      But I am curious as to your advocacy for the IRS being righteous in their extortion and waste.
      I have seen and talked to xIRS agents who have proven there are no laws forcing one to contract with them. It is also well known that the IRS is a PRIVATE CORPORATION and not even based in the USA nor even allowed to operate in the USA anymore.
      At any rate, I have no quarrels with them.
      As for the bee hives you purport to know about, I don't do bee hives, they sting and can even kill one dead these days!
      I'm ambitious but I am not stupid.
      I simply want out of the trap and want to be able to exchange my own value for products and services and preferably without contracting with the $y$tem at all for I do not want to be under its jurisdiction.
      Like you say "who gave you jurisdiction over me?" ;)
      So, how do I go about learning to do great contracts? Do you teach this?
      Thanks!
      Dee

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    33. DEE..then, if you want out of the trap...awesome! That is why I don't give people procedures on how to use the system. The system is the trap! IT IS THE SNARE! To be free, you have to come out of the system. You have to stand on the ground.
      Now, about the IRS...you must hear what I am saying. I said the IRS is legal and the U.S. has a right to use it LEGALLY for their system. LEGAL IT IS...IN THE SYSTEM IN WHICH IT IS USED WHICH IS LEGAL! GET IT? THINK...WHAT I AM TELLING YOU!

      OK let me take this from a different angle:
      Are the courts using...LEGAL? Are the attorneys of the system...using...LEGAL? Are the Congressional and Legislative Acts...using....LEGAL? WHAY....YES THEY ARE!!!! It's all LEGAL! GET IT? Is...LEGAL...THE SYSTEM...or is it NOT? If LEGAL is the system...THEN CAN YOU SAY....INCOME TAXES...which is used by the system...IS NOT LEGAL? THINK...you have to think...what I am telling you. What have I been saying....I teach people what has happened...what is happening and what is going to happen in the future! I am talking to you about you now...and I am going to ask you do you want to use LEGAL? Because if you do....then you must learn CONTRACTS!!!! CONTRACTS is what the entire...LEGAL...system....is based on! In.....LEGAL....there are things....LEGAL and things...ILLEGAL (goes against LEGAL). If a PERSON....wants to use...LEGAL...then they need to know what is LEGAL and ILLEGAL. My explanation to you about the A4V is to tell you...they the controllers of the LEGAL...THE SYSTEM...they created....have not made A4V part of their system. They have ruled it ILLEGAL...in the LEGAL SYSTEM. They have ruled...INCOME TAXES...LEGAL...in their system. IF YOU ARE IN THEIR SYSTEM....DON'T EVEN BEGIN TO THINK...INCOME TAXES ARE NOT LEGAL. YOU WILL LOSE...that ARGUMENT. That ARGUMENT has already been proven....by the system to be...FRIVOLOUS!
      THE SYSTEM....is...LEGAL...it is their system....and you don't get to decide what is LEGAL or ILLEGAL in it.
      With this Dee...I am ending my posts on Anna's blogs for a while. I have given you enough information to ponder, think and consider. If you don't get what I have already posted and get it in your core...then you can not go beyond what I have posted to date.
      I have told you what they are doing, I have told you about the 3 identities and I have told you where they can be found in the Constitution. Now, you have to take those 3 important truths and contemplate how they are right now today, impacting your life. Posting to me again....will not help you! RESEARCH DEE...THINK...none of this is FOREIGN TO YOU....YOU HAVE BEEN DOING IT 'UNAWARE' YOUR ENTIRE LIFE. YOU SIMPLY NEED TO WAKE UP AND BECOME CONSCIOUS OF WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING UNCONSCIOUSLY ALL YOUR LIFE. Become aware!

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    34. Yeah, anyway, you went way overboard there honey!
      I do know the difference between Legal and Lawful.
      If you're going to preach and teach, then do something about it other than lead people down a path with no clear route to continue on by themselves!
      Also, you're beginning to sound like an Agent OF the System! Not an advocate otherwise!
      I cite HJR-192 to cut through all the BS they throw up at people trying to utilize it through their Legal Enslavement System!
      In ANY CASE, I INTEND TO WIN on my own behalf and on behalf of all those being fucked over by the maggotry running the system!
      One last thing. NEVER attempt to tell me what to do! No matter how well veiled, I ALWAYS find out! ;)
      Good luck CJ. It's been interesting!

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    35. DEE...I DID BETTER THAN CITE HJR-192...I GAVE YOU THE ACTUAL SUPREME COURT CASE REGARDING IT AND I GAVE YOU THE CFR LINK. See...the issue for you DEE...is you want a quick easy solution. You want to make comments without thinking! The comment you just made had absolutely no thought behind it at all. You say you know the difference between LAWFUL AND LEGAL...then why do you not show you know the difference? You show absolutely no understanding of the things you comment and you say you know! DEE...do you want to know why...I decided to stop commenting with you? BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT LEARNING! If you won't learn...I can't teach. There's an old buddhist saying: when the student is ready the teacher will appear. You are not ready! You are not ready to unlearn what you think you know...so you can learn the facts of what YOU SAY...you want to learn. But, you do not take it and think about it...you simply continue to comment...what you already know. It is what YOU KNOW...that is your problem. It is standing in your way. It is not standing in mine. Jesus said this: you can't put new wine in old wine bottles. He is absolutely right. I can't show you the new wine...until you are ready to let go of the old. YOU ARE NOT READY....THAT IS WHY I WON'T BE POSTING WITH YOU. PS...I AM NOT YOUR SAVIOR...I DON'T OWE YOU ANYTHING. I didn't put you in line with the bus....I can't remove you from it. But, you can...whenever you TRULY decide you are sick of standing in its way. You will move yourself. That's how this all works! THINK! And LIVE FREE!

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    36. CJ, I knew you'd fall for the bait! You're so full of shit!
      Good luck, government shill! I KNOW who you really are! And now so does everyone else!

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  25. Oh, and Thank You Judge Anna! You're the best!

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  26. To everyone that reads my comments....my hope for you:

    That you will fully realize you are not in Kansas anymore, but that you can go home to Kansas (a several State) anytime you choose...all you gotta do is click your ruby red slippers together and wake up in your bed, from the nightmare you have had...because you were hit in the head!
    Because when you finally wake up...you will be surrounded by all the people who love you and who you love and you will realize it was all just a bad dream!You will see the one who promised you everything, who is exposed when the curtain is pulled back, never had the power and authority to help you go back to Kansas, but you had the power and authority all along! WAKE UP DOROTHY!

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    1. C. Johnson: I really hate to see you go. You explain things so thoroughly that even I can comprehend the big picture--the underlying principles. Plus I love your passion. If there's any possibility of staying in touch with you, would you please email me at pljhpljh@gmail.com ?

      Thank you for the great information and wisdom and generosity. Best wishes to you!

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    2. C. Johnson is a Wolf in sheeps cloathing! A cloaked Government Agent who's OBVIOUS goal and purpose is to keep people from learning the truth and being able to utilize their just due per HJR-192. DO NOT LET ANYONE KEEP YOU FROM ACCESSING YOUR VALUE! Do it correctly and you will be fine!
      Don't get stuck in its words, pay attention to the results or lack thereof!
      C. Johnson is a Government SHILL! An AGENT! IGNORE IT!

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    3. C. JohnsonOctober 14, 2018 at 10:36 AM
      DEE...YOU DON'T THINK! I never told you not to do A4V. Again I gave you the actual court case PERRY VS THE UNITED STATES...that confirms HJR192. But...again...you refuse to learn. NONE ARE SO BLIND...THEY REFUSE TO SEE AND NONE ARE SO DEAF...THEY REFUSE TO HEAR. The issue is this...you don't want to hear the truth...the govt (the legal system) has ruled the A4V procedure as illegal. You don't want to hear they have thrown the leader of that procedure in jail. You don't want to hear they are now going after the ones who do A4V. You don't want to hear DISCHARGE IS LEGAL...BUT THE GOVT HAS NOT SET UP A PROCEDURE FOR YOU TO OBTAIN THAT DISCHARGE. You don't want to hear, the U.S. TREASURY is not the legal authority over HJR-192. You don't want to see what the Supreme Court ruled in Perry vs. United States. You don't want to see or hear...LAW OR EQUITY. You want what you what...regardless of the consequences. You want quick fixes and you don't want to hear there are no quick fixes. You don't want to hear or see...you need to learn the truth about what you have been doing your entire life. And because you don't want to see and hear...I'M A GOVERNMENT SHILL! Ok DEE, this is a REPUBLIC...go do what you want...you have been doing that your entire life. I have already told you that! There are no procedures for how you choose to live your life. It's your life. I don't teach procedures...I TEACH WHAT HAS HAPPENED, WHAT IS HAPPENING AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. If you would have wanted to learn, what I teach...you would have paid very close attention to the A4V COMMENTS, I made to you on this blog. But, you didn't! You are a non-think, your are reactionary and you are emotional. You are a child...screaming for your pacifier. Well, you won't get one here. Now, if that makes me a govt shill, oh well and so be it. This is why I have stopped trying to teach you. AGAIN...YOU ARE NOT LEARNING AND YOU ARE UNWILLING TO UNLEARN WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW. AGAIN A4V...HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO WORK BY THE SYSTEM. THEY KNOW ABOUT IT...AND THEY ARE TAKING DOWN THE LEADERS AND THE BLIND FOLLOWERS WILL BE NEXT. GO DO SOME RESEARCH OR REMAIN IGNORANT OF THE FACTS! YOU CAN NOT USE THE SYSTEM TO GET WHAT YOU WANT...YOU WILL GO TO JAIL. THAT'S TRUTH! If that makes me a shill for telling you the truth so be it. SINCE YOU ARE TOO LAZY TO DO IT YOURSELF....HERE CHECK THIS OUT...THE LEADER OF THE A4V.... THE GURU...THEY ARE MAKING AN EXAMPLE OF HIM...AND YOU ARE BLIND, SO BLIND....
      https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=winston+shrout+in+jail&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

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    4. DEE what makes me so sad for you...you will never be free!

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    5. C, you are so wrong! I read everything you suggested but found you trying to throw me off the marke expecting me to take your word for it that there are no LEGAL avenues to take advantage of A4V.
      Others say it works but the ones that do, want up front FRN's so they instantly get a RED FLAG and do not get my business.
      I know what you're saying. I'm a lot more studied and learned than you think.
      And please, stop the childishness. No need for it and it's as useless as war!
      I know about Strout and HATJ and others. But I also know about others who have supposedly been using A4V for decades without hassles. It's hearsay but so is a lot of this!
      Where's the PROOF?
      Strout got nailed because his procedures were incorrect.
      HATJ is an Agent and I am sure she's been out, if she ever went in jail, and living at home laughing at all those she helped to keep off the mark.
      I DO KNOW of other procedures that are outside the so called norm that are being touted as superior to any remedies out here right now and am looking into it currently.
      Oh, and I AM FREE! THEY just don't realize it! YET!
      ;)

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    6. DEE...again...you refuse to learn...go for it...what's stopping you? I KNOW BETTER and I KNOW THE BETTER WAY! GO DO YOUR PROCEDURES, but...be advised...you are trying to use...THEIR SYSTEM...and, in...THEIR SYSTEM....THEY decide what is LEGAL AND ILLEGAL. You don't get to decide! You are in their system...you play by their rules or you go to jail. SO GO PLAY! Just understand...you have absolutely no authority in their system and you are there subject when you are in it. TO QUOTE YOU "I AM FREE THEY JUST DON'T REALIZE IT! yet!" I LAUGH!

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    7. ps. your blah, blah, blah is wasting my time, so as I said I'm out and I won't respond to you again. You are hell bent on unleashing hell on yourself...I wish you well in your endeavors.

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    8. Funny you don't mention 'changing one's status' or 'setting up a Trust to house and operate the ALL CAPS TRUST' at arms length so it doesn't matter if they like you using their system or YOUR VALUE or not!
      There are consequences for their unlawful actions and they know it too!
      You keep talking about teaching yet haven't taught a thing.
      You say you KNOW the BETTER WAY yet you don't specify what that way is other than barking the phrase "who gave you juristiction over me?" Yeah, like that will work 100% of the time, if at all!
      So, what DO you KNOW?
      ENLIGHTEN US OR STFU!
      Dee

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    9. DEE..1.) making use of the system and 2.) using the system is 2 distinct and separate things, BUT OF COURSE YOU WOULD NOT KNOW IT. AND....
      2.) NO..I WILL NOT GIVE YOU MY PERMISSION TO USE A4V. SO PLEASE STOP CRYING THAT I WON'T APPROVE IT!
      NOW...WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT FROM ME?

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    10. Non-sequiter there honey....
      Nobody is asking for your permission...wtf are you?
      Crying?
      Anyway, put up or shut up...
      Dee

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    11. DEE...Do you know why its going to be impossible for you to ever live free? Because you do not have rational thought processes. You are reactionary....emotional....non-thinking. In order to live free, you must be able to maintain your self control. You do not have any self control. One of the most powerful lessons about the law and legal is without self control you lose. Your emotions cause you to act like a child. You comment without thinking. That is why...I chose to stop teaching you. Yet...instead of accepting my will to not teach you...you have lost control and decided to rant. You can not control me, with your rants. They mean nothing to me. You began ranting, when I told you the truth about A4V. Your rants increased when I told you I was going away and ending my conversations with you. Yet you continue to rant. Do you not see your own childish behavior? You proceed in your rants to act as if I am in debted to you for something. Dee, I am not in debt to you for anything. I have not pledged you anything or promised you anything. Yet since you continue to act...as if I do...so, I thought I would pacify you and tell you I don't give you my permission. You did exactly what I expected...you didn't think...before you once again displayed your emotional outrage. DO THAT IN COURT AND YOU WILL BE IN JAIL FOR CONTEMPT AND THEY WILL QUICKLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR WEAKNESS (emotions, which they see as weak). That really had an emotional impact on you. You had to rant again. Do you yet understand, I am controlling you? I am in control? I am controlling you, the same way they control you. I am not emotional about this...I am at perfect peace! Do you want to know why? Because when you play in the system, the one out of control...loses! You are out of control. There's a lesson for you! I hope you get it! Now, is there anything else you need from me? Because you obviously refuse to understand...you are proving my point about you. YOU ARE NOT READY TO LEARN AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW! BUT, THIS THING I WILL TELL YOU...YOUR EMOTIONS ARE YOUR WEAKNESS...YOU LACK THE ABILITY TO SHOW AUTHORITY OR POWER. Without authority or power...you don't know who you are....the system will eat you alive. YOUR EMOTIONAL OUTBURSTS ARE YOU DESTROYER. So in answer to your question: CRYING? NO, not hardly! Are you ready for me to shut up now? Ok! Again best wishes to you with the A4V! REALLY GOOD LUCK IS WISHED YOU!

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    12. Dee...Ps...just one more thing...I am using you as an example of how I hand things legally and lawfully. You see, others read my posts, so even though I am posting to you, I am not posting just for you. When others read my posts...I want them to not only understand they have authority and power...but I want then to understand how to use it. So per your comment...I have both put up and now I shut up...unless you rant to me again. If you do rant...I promise I will use it to teach!

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    13. Toy's -r- Us
      CJ, you should be talking into a mirror with all that childish ranting..look at what you just wrote... :D!
      You're off the mark quite a huge amount with regard your lame attempts at evaluating others.
      You have no idea the calibur of my business accumen nor even have the faintest idea what I know. For all you know, I've been toying with you, with great success!
      Tell that to yourself in the mirror next time you rook!
      Dee

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  27. a video for everyone...hope you enjoy
    https://youtu.be/J6Hoegji7_Q

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  28. The DD2168 is an "Application" for discharge from active duty military service used primarily for folks whose service is in question... such as civilians contracted by the military and awarded equivalent service. That is why the form requires accompanying proof. For most vets who were actually on active duty, the form is not required. For DD2168 applicants, after their service is verified, they are issued (among other things) a DD214 which is a "Certificate" of discharge. For most vets, the proof of their service is readily available and they are simply discharged and issued the DD214 which indicates a complete discharge from active duty.
    R. Sones,
    LTC, USA (Ret)

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  29. everyone read anna's new blog post about winston shrout....he was trying to USE THE SYSTEM, you can't! http://www.paulstramer.net/2018/10/about-winston-shrout.html#comment-form
    So glad Anna posted that article. You can make use of the system..but, you can not USE IT...there is a difference.

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