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Wednesday, August 10, 2016

Ignatius of Loyola writings and history from a Catholic perspective.

From the Desk of Paul Stramer

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As I have said in the introduction at the top of the blog "You will find some conflicting views from some of these authors. You will also find that all the authors are deeply concerned about the future of America. What they write is their own opinion, just as what I write is my own. If you have an opinion on a particular article, please comment by clicking the title of the article and scrolling to the box at the bottom on that page. Please keep the discussion about the issues, and keep it civil. The administrator reserves the right to remove unwarranted personal attacks. Use the golden rule; "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." 

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It is sometimes said that in America we have the "right to our opinion". I would say rather that we have the responsibility to see to it that our opinion is right, the way God sees it.  With that I shall begin with my opinion and some history about Saint Ignatius of Loyola.

I am compelled by my lifelong Catholic Faith and background to set the record straight about what Ignatius of Loyola taught.  I shall use his own words, and the 1917 Catholic Encyclopedia to do so.

I note that many if not most of the people who criticize the "Jesuits" refuse to read anything he actually wrote, and won't read anything the Catholic Church has said about the order or the man going back almost 500 years.

The words that follow are my opinion, but not just my opinion. They are irrefutable history going back centuries. My sources are well documented and links will follow each section.

I will start by saying that while people who oppose the Catholic Faith will tolerate most of the orders in the Church like the Franciscans, and others, they mostly have an undying hatred of the Society of Jesus founded by St.Ignatius of Loyola.

I will also say that we are talking here about a Church that is over 2000 years old, and an order that was not approved until September 27th, 1540, by the Papal Bull of Pope Paul III titled "Regimini militantis ecclesia".  For a history of the Society of Jesus from the Catholic encyclopedia go here:  Remember that when you see a link that has cathen in it, it's from the 1917 edition of the Catholic Encyclopedia.

Ignatius of Loyola was born in 1491 at the castle of Loyola above Azpeitia in Guipuscoa; died at Rome, 31 July, 1556. I will not dwell on the early part of his life except to say that he became a soldier and was grievously wounded in the battle of Pampeluna in 1521 and was completely changed by what followed.
For a complete story of his life from the Catholic Encyclopedia :

The Jesuit Legend    This is from the Catholic Encyclopedia

"It is curious that at the present day, even literary men have next to no interest in the objective facts concerning the Society, not even in those supposed to be to its disadvantage. All attention is fixed to the Jesuit legend; encyclopedia articles and general histories hardly concern themselves with anything else. The legend, though it reached its present form in the middle of the nineteenth century, began at a much earlier period. The early persecutions of the Society (which counted some 100 martyrs in Europe during its first century) were backed up by fiery, loud, unscrupulous writers such as Hassenmueller and Hospinian, who diligently collected and defended all the charges against the Jesuits. The rude, criminous ideas which these writers set forth received subtler traits of deceitfulness and double-dealing through Zahorowski's "Monita Secreta Societatis Jesu" (Cracow, 1614), a satire misrepresenting the rule of the order, which is freely believed to be genuine by credulous adversaries (see Monita Secreta). The current version of the legend is late French, evolved during the long revolutionary ferment which preceded the Third Empire. It began with the denunciations of Montlosier (1824-27), and grew strong (1833-45) in the University of Paris, which affected to consider itself as the representative of the Gallican Sorbonne, of Port-Royal, and of the Encyclopédie. The occasion for literary hostilities was offered by attempts at University reform which, so Liberals affected to believe, were instigated by Jesuits. Hereupon the "Provinciales" were given a place in the University curriculum, and Villemain, Theirs, Cousin. Michelet, Quinlet, Libri, Mignet, and other respectable scholars succeeded by their writings and denunciations in giving to anti-Jesuitism a sort of literary vogue, not always with scrupulous observance of accuracy or fairness. More harmful still to the order were the plays, the songs, the popular novels against them. Of these the most celebrated was Eugène Sue's "Juif errant" (Wandering Jew) (1844), which soon became the most popular anti-Jesuit book ever printed, and has done more than anything else to give final form to the Jesuit legend.
The special character of this fable is that it has hardly anything to do with the order at all, its traits being simply copied from masonry. The previous Jesuit bogey was at least one which haunted churches and colleges, and worked through the confessional and the pulpit. But this creation of modern fiction has lost all connection with reality. He (or even she) is a person, not necessarily a priest, under the command of a black pope who lives in an imaginary world of back stairs, closets, and dark passages. He is busy with plotting and scheming, mesmerizing the weak and corrupting the honest, occupations diversified by secret crimes or melodramatic attempts at crimes of every sort. The ideal we see is taken over bodily from the real, or the supposed method of the life of the Continental mason. Yet this is the sort of nonsense about which special correspondents send telegrams to the papers, about which revolutionary agitators and crafty politicians make long inflammatory speeches, which standard works of reference discuss quite gravely, which none of our popular writers dares to expose as an imposture (see Brou, op cit. infra, II, 199-247)."

Some Objections:

The answers to many of the accusations against the Society of Jesus are contained in another article, again from the Catholic Encyclopedia of 1917 here:

And now for the actual writing of the man himself. What was he about? What was his real mission? How did he accomplish that mission. Was it with a sword?  NO!  It was with ideas.

The Romans learned over 20 centuries ago that you can't fight an idea with swords.  They tried that and failed.  They tried to wipe Christianity from the face of the earth and utterly and completely failed.


An explanation and history of his writings:

So from the words of Saint Ignatius of Loyola here are his ideas.

A short work composed by St. Ignatius of Loyola and written originally in Spanish.   
Read the actual text. Just click  next>>  at the bottom of each page.   Another way to read the actual book.  Wait for the book to appear in the black box at the top of the  page then on the right toward the top click the spyglass.
To turn the pages click the arrows at the bottom right corner.

If you have spent a lifetime in a Protestant religion I don't expect you will even read many of these links.

Most protestants are taught from a young age to hate "the jesuits".  I don't have to answer for that, thank God. But I am obligated to tell the truth, and make known the history you have probably never had a chance to see, hence this article, which is my fulfillment of my duty to God and His Church.

Now a word about that Church.  God is not divided against Himself. He is the One, True God in three divine persons, Father (Creator), Son (Redeemer) and Holy Ghost (Sanctifier). Three divine persons in ONE God.

There is NO other God in the Universe. All besides Him are false and impostors. I hope we can agree on that much at least.  
It follows then, that God would not and did not make more than one true religion on this earth. 
It is our job, our duty, to find that one true Faith, and get in it, and stay in it till we take our last breath.
By doing so we fulfill our ultimate purpose, the reason we have been given life, which is to know, love, and serve Him in this life that we may be happy with him for all eternity seeing Him as He really is forever.
Of course God demands that we live by those principles, not just profess them. That is the challenge.
We were created for nothing less than eternal and complete happiness with our creator, for all time without end.

DON'T LOOK FOR THAT RELIGION IN ROME!   Rome has LOST the Faith. The prophecy of La Salette has been fulfilled. Rome has lost the faith and has become the seat of AntiChrist, but the world does not know this yet. It will as time goes on. Use a search engine to look that up. Type in prophecy of La Salette.

Don't take that to mean that I believe God's Church is gone, or corrupt. It's still very much alive and well, but is much smaller than most people believe.  But that is for another article when the time is right.

I know this might leave you with many questions. Good. That is partly what it is meant to do. 

Our Lord has made us some promises that have solutions in them. He told us how to pray. He showed us how to live. How well have we imitated those instructions and His example?  I think not very well, and that is what Saint Ignatius was focused on when he started the Society of Jesus. He realized way back then, over 468 years ago, that we were in trouble and falling away from true Faith. HE LAID DOWN HIS SWORD, and took up the cross, and set a personal example to help us to salvation. He has been lied about, and demonized, and slandered by the enemies of your soul, until that evil legend is almost an institution, but still, those detractors have NOT succeeded in removing his example, and spiritual exercises.

Don't take my word for any of this, but now that you know, how will you answer to God, if you continue to ignore " the rest of the story" as Paul Harvey would say?

God bless anyone that reads this and takes it seriously.

 COME, Holy Ghost, into the hearts of Thy faithful, and kindle in them the fire of Thy love.
  V. Send forth Thy Spirit, and they shall be created;
   R. And Thou shalt renew the face of the earth.

Let Us Pray
      O God, Who didst instruct the hearts of the faithful by the light of the Holy Spirit, grant that by the gift of the same Spirit we may be always truly wise, and ever rejoice in His consolation. Through Christ our Lord. Amen.

Paul Stramer


  1. It doesn't matter what platitudes and propoganda they write the Jesuits are well known as the butchers of mankind. They started their history robing people on their death bed and gathering blackmail information from the confessions. Eric Phelps has made that very clear.

    Your opinion of "Vicious" attacks is self serving. Let Anna produce something more than boredom literature that amounts to false and naive claims of solutions. The books she's been involved with many around Accept for Value are shallow and ineffective to say the least. One minute she promotes Expatriating the ALL CAPS NAMES the next she says their illegitimate and fraud the next it's some other tactic. While she has good intentions she and has helped illumintate peoples understanding of the situation her cures are totally unrealistic. Calling her to task should help you and others hold her to higher standards than just putting out her own imaginative solutions. You don't hear about her claims to be from a family background that has been intimately involved with the Global Estate Trust for nearly 800 years. If she has that kind of background and association perhaps that has helped her get insight but not solutions.

    Social religions serve some good purposes but lacking real legitimate spiritual association and competency makes them at best morally helpful to society but can not do any good for their spiritual welfare of the individual. The creation is not broken and the True Supreme Being does not need any such institutions they serve the purpose of expressing and exhausting the karmas of their followers and can do nothing for their true salvation. The current of redemption must come down to the earth it can not accessed by philosophies or marketing propaganda.

    You do a great disservice when you act as a gate keeping limiting information to your state of ignorance.

    1. One need not entertain the concept of gate keeping for it is a operation of your mind , symbolic of what one feels in relation to the confluences of nature within,There are no beings that can bloc the light that emanates throughout all boundless realms of being ,existence can be neither right or wrong ,irreducibility of OUR collective free will immutable perfection infinity. love,there is nothing to fix ,acceptance and discernment for greater awareness ,information is illustrative of mind and spirit,never limiting ,the worlds are at play ,the cosmos ring true ,This is OUR world stage ,we each have our own individual play ,only a man can be ruled by his or her own rules ,their is no true separation in relation to a God ,judgement shows the lack of awareness within their own being ,being is, continual cycles of confluences in a transitory cycle ,life is immortal .Even time is a religion my friend ,are you gate keeping that disclosure from the others in some form ? how about psychological time? Its all good ,all there will ever be is LOVE in all being .

    2. And, just one Jesuit alone, Junipero Serra, oversaw and was responsible for the deaths of 100,000 or more indigenous peoples of So. California. The pope celebrated this murderer's canonization when he visited the east coast (ironically) of the U.S. in 2015. The "Society of Jesus," lamentably, is 180 degrees removed from the teachings of their namesake.

    3. Well, someone finally got my point. Don't look for the Catholic Church in Rome, and certainly don't look for it in Francis. Rome has lost the Faith, and become the seat of the Antichrist. Therefore most so called Catholics actually teach and do the opposite of Christ's true Church. I don't know of this Junipero Serra, but will do the research. But don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

    4. Wow you guys blow my mind onto tiny islands of thought, bumping ,reflecting off won over another yet somehow on the same track that the mind farmer blocks the right of way, only on a temporary basis, untill friends and the farmers come together in love.

  2. The ALL CAPS NAME as I recently reported is not a NAME. It's an ACCOUNT as in a bank account. Those who critique what I have done and written have not followed along in the long progression of information developed. Some people seem to think that I just stepped down on the planet with all information firmly in my head and hand and that I am "naïve" or that my information is "ineffective" when in fact this is a learning process for everyone involved in this effort. If that is too hard to grasp, maybe you should just go back to sleep and not bother yourself about things as you seem to have taken the common Nanny State Stance of wanting everything spoonfed, hot, and ready on demand instead of accepting the reality of having to go out and work and do your own research and Due Diligence, too, just like me and like everyone else.

    When we find things that enjoy success in one state that is no guarantee that it will be effective in a different state or even a different county. If you haven't woke up to that fact, I am afraid that neither I nor anyone else will be able to help you or satisfy you because you have ignorant expectations that any of this is easy or automated or standardized when it is NOT.

    Sorry to burst your bubble on all of that, and also on this point--- I have absolutely never from Day One ever suggested even remotely that I was here to prove anything to anyone. Rather, I have presented what I and others have found out, shared the resources and references, and let people go look for themselves. That is how we make progress--- day after day after day.

    This past year we've made a lot of progress because many people have taken the time to dig and share, which similar to having a lot of people mining a gold claim lightens the work and spreads out the net of information gathering. We are not in the same "state of ignorance" we were in two years ago, and I guarantee that we will be better off in six months that we are now, too. That should not be a surprise or cause for criticism from any thinking man who can rub two brain cells together.

  3. Paul you are a good man inside and a very dedicated Catholic. Being a good Catholic is the problem part. I grew up Catholic, an alter boy, was going to join the priest hood, went to Church every day, seriously every day.

    When i finally got older and sat down with the priest to asked him questions, after the third question he got up and walk away, couldn't answer any, WITH BIBLICAL PROOF!

    i can proof everything i say with the word of God but when i ask people to do the same, they can't. Did Mary really appeared in a vision or is she dead? Is King David in heaven with Mary? Why did Jesus speak in parables?

    New International Version
    Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the realm of the dead, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom.

    New International Version
    For David did not ascend to heaven, and yet he said, "'The Lord said to my Lord: "Sit at my right hand

    Most Christian will freak out to find out King David did not make it to heaven, YET.

    Mat 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
    Mat 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

    Mat 13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

    So now i give answers from God's own word.

    The big question is how may of you out there have eyes to see.


    1. Thank you for your comments Ben. May I ask what the year was that you sat down with that priest? It is important.

    2. around the late 70's. should give away my time on this earth.

      P.S. Even today if i spoke to a Catholic priest today it would be the same. I was practically forced to go to a Christian revival meeting last year, pastor wanted to meet with me. After 30 minutes he could not debunk one word i said. Never to have him look for me again and he still continues on television media to promote the foolish doctrines of hell, free will, immortality of the soul, especially tithing, etc.

      So now then how is this year thing so important? All Christian denominations are an off shoot of the Catholic Church, even Billy Graham admitted publically the Pope is the chief Priest.

      Be Blessed
      BenElyon not Ben

    3. I don't agree with most of your statements regarding God's word, but then, if your source is the New International Version of the Bible, I can see why, as it is filled with error. David hasn't "made it to heaven"? The my Lord he is referring to is Yeshua, so obviously he was a true believer, and as such, he is in Heaven for certain.



    4. Witchcraft has infiltrated the pulpit Ben E Lyon!
      The Church any church is a social club under the direction of the 501 c 3 government control. The Preist Father Pastor have their orders of what and what not to preach and teach being the main reason the Deliverence ministry is almost non existent. Very few know who the real enemy is anymore as in Ephs 6 12 being the reason the Catholic hating Jesuit exists unchallenged.

    5. Do provide valid proof in specifics that Billy Graham stated that "the Pope was Chief Priest" = and of what if any besides the Roman-Ca-tholic geo-political cult...!

    6. BenElyon, at first I thought you were on the right track saying that you prove everything by the word of God. But your last post seems to contradict that when you deny what you call the foolish doctrines of hell, etc. In the verse you quote about David, Peter was talking to the people about ressurection and he quoted David saying in Acts 2:26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope: In Acts 2:29 Peter says: Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. As
      such the verse you reference is concerning David's flesh not having been resurrected yet and is therefor his body is not yet ascended into heaven. There are answers to your questions if you will ask and allow the Holy Spirit to guide you into all truth.

  4. I appreciate the great time and effort of Paul and Anna von Reitz have put into sharing their great knowledge. We need to work together to share our knowledge with each other. We ARE living in the end times and we need to pool our knowledge - help each other out of the ditch of being steeped in the traditions and commandments of MEN instead of the Commandments of God!

    "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children" Hosea 4:6.

    The FEAR of God means having a KNOWLEDGE of GOD. Knowledge is power. Jesus is the WISDOM and POWER of GOD! "Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God" 1 Corinthians 1:24.

    "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding" Proverbs 9:10.

    Psalm 111:10
    The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; A good understanding have all those who do His commandments; His praise endures forever.

    Proverbs 1:7
    The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge; Fools despise wisdom and instruction.

    Job 28:28
    "And to man He said, 'Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; And TO DEPART FROM EVIL IS UNDERSTANDING"!!!

    "Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man" Ecclesiastes 12:13.

    I appreciate someone who is sincere, because I am sincere as well. Paul is defending something he believes in. This is the KEY WORD. BELIEVE. "Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye BELIEVE on him whom he hath sent" John 6:29.

    WE should ALL work together to pool our knowledge base and help each other survive these end times together... and I don't necessarily mean survive alive, but survive with our souls in tact holding true to the Word of God and basing our beliefs solely upon the Bible. THAT is the description of a sincere and true PROTESTANT of which today there are VERY FEW as Jesus said there would be: "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and MANY there be which go in thereat" Matthew 7:13.

    "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it" Matthew 7:14.

    Isaiah 35:8
    A highway will be there, a roadway, And it will be called the Highway of Holiness. The unclean will not travel on it, But it will be for him who walks that way, And fools will not wander on it.

    That is something! "Fools will not wander on" the "Highway of Holiness"! This roadway is the 12 Laws of God, all twelve Laws of God and His Statutes. The Twelve Commandments of God are the 12 Pearly Gates into the City of God, the New Jerusalem in Heaven! Revelation 21:2 "I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride (144,000) beautifully dressed for her husband (Son of God)."

  5. "Blessed are they that DO his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life (claiming Bible verse promises:, and may enter in through the gates (12 Commandments) into the City" Revelation 22:14.

    Psalm 118:20
    This is the gate of the LORD; The righteous will enter through it.

    The 12 Commandments are the 12 GATES into the City of God and are found in Exodus 20:1-17; The 11th and 12th commandments are first found in Leviticus 19:18 and Deut. 6:5 and repeated in Matthew 22:37-40 and other verses:

    "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself" Leviticus 19:18.

    "And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might" Deuteronomy 6:5.

    "Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets" Matthew 22:37-40 KJV.

    So, there are ALL TWELVE COMMANDMENTS of GOD which are really 12 PEARLY GATES into the City of God. If we break one of these we break them all according to James 2:10.

    Revelation 21:12
    The city had a great and high wall with twelve gates inscribed with the names of the twelve tribes of Israel, and twelve angels at the gates.

  6. I believe the test is just upon us that will determine our eternal life. We need to live each day as if it is our last. I am not a Catholic, was raised in an Apostate Protestant church denomination that has backslide from what the pioneers of this "church" had setup in the beginning of the Seventh day Adventist church. I did not realize that the church I was raised in was backslidden, meaning this formerly "Protestant" church had adopted "Catholic" doctrines after the Prophet and the "old timers" passed away. These Catholic doctrines, like the "Trinity", the "Eucharist", the idea that we cannot be sin-free until we "get to Heaven", Sunday-First Day of Week worship instead of Saturday-7th day of worship and others, like the wearing of long black robes for school graduation services, some SDA preachers wearing long black robes as they preach, etc.

    These "Catholic" doctrines, those doctrines that "former" Protestants held as "blasphemy" and for which their forefathers were burned at the stake during the Dark Ages (538AD to 1798AD - which was cut short by 25 years), these former PROTESTANT CHURCH DENOMINATIONS, as ALL 501c3 non-profit, tax-exempt denominations today IN THE USA have adopted the very doctrines their forefathers gave their very life as their BELIEF. These doctrines that these FORMER Protestant churches HAVE ADOPTED are the TRINITY ("God the Father", "God the Son" and "God the Holy Spirit" CO-EQUAL, CO-ETERNAL beings: Three divine persons in ONE God.)

    1. There is one God (i.e., one proper object of religious devotion).

    2. The one God is a single divine being, the LORD (Jehovah, Yahweh).

    3. The Father of our Lord Jesus Christ is God.

    4. The Son, Jesus Christ, is God.

    5. The Holy Spirit is God.

    6. The Father is not the Son.

    7. The Father is not the Holy Spirit.

    8. The Son is not the Holy Spirit.

    Trinitarians absolutely must affirm and insist upon all of the above beliefs in order to logically confess this doctrine and if a single one of these beliefs is shown to be false, the entire doctrine of the Trinity disintegrates and is thereby proven to be totally false. Every single point must be valid for the overall doctrine to be valid. These points provide no room for doctrinal adjustments since no adjustments are possible to these points without destroying the overall doctrine itself. This site focuses primarly on disproving the Trinitarian claims concerning Point 4 because Trinitarians tend to focus their efforts on point 4. However, points 7 and 8 must also be true and if they are not true then the doctrine of the Trinity is necessarily a false doctrine. The doctrine of the Trinity is proven false if either of these two points are proven false. Indeed, if ANY of the above points are proven false, the doctrine of the Trinity disintegrates.

    1. Being cannot be a matter of right or wrong ,awareness of greater processes is all being will ever be ,infinity ,

  7. SUNDAY WORSHIP is man-made traditions, man's law vs Exodus 20:8-11 law of God Friday Sundown to Saturday Sundown (Christ even kept the Sabbath in death = Good Friday died at 3:00 PM and was put into a tomb to rest over the 7th day of the week Sabbath that was a Divine Institution at the creation of this world, was RAISED back to LIFE by His Father and God early on the FIRST DAY (SUNDAY) of the week), "If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved" Romans 10:9.

    The BOTTOM LINE! WE MUST COME OUT AND AWAY FROM ALL CHURCHES! WE MUST COME OUT OF THE CHURCHES THAT WE LOVE AND WE MUST ENTER INTO CHRIST! HE ALONE CAN SAVE US! A "church" that does not keep ALL 12 Commandments of God cannot help you get to Heaven! Here is HOW we enter into Christ: See Psalm 100:4 "Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts with praise: be thankful unto him, and bless his name."



    I know, I've only touched on the surface, but to dig deep we must study like our lives depend upon it, because it does. We need a PERSONAL, REAL, INTIMATE relationship with the TRUE JESUS, the Son of God who was twice born as we must be twice born.

    Did you know the Bible talks about "ANOTHER JESUS" by which most of the whole world will be deceived? See 2 Cor 11:3-4: But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

    4 For if he that cometh preacheth ANOTHER JESUS, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive ANOTHER SPIRIT (someone other Spirit than the Spirit of Christ that is both human and divine from the cross forward, 1 Cor 15:45; Romans 8:9), which ye have not received, or ANOTHER GOSPEL, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with (beware of) him.

    Today, I cannot think of a single "Protestant" church denomination in the USA that has not become "Catholic" by virtue of adoption of "doctrines in common with the Catholic church" the "Mother" of Harlots - the main three of which are the TRINITY, SUNDAY WORSHIP, EUCHARIST - for which all three are completely unscriptural. NOT FOUND IN THE BIBLE. The Trinity is the foundational doctrine of the Catholic church from which springs every other false doctrine.

    "The mystery of the Trinity is the central doctrine of the Catholic Faith. Upon it are based all the other teachings of the church..." Handbook for Today's Catholic, p. 11.

    [Note: This fact is fraught with deep and serious implications affecting the Everlasting Gospel, the Atonement, and the Sanctuary Message.]

    "And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS (Prostitutes) AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH" Rev 17:5.

    The Bible defines this as "Like Mother (Catholic System=Mother), Like Daughter (All 501c3 Protestant Churches today in America)" Ezekiel 16:44.

    The day on which we worship and which God we worship will determine our eternal destiny. Will we listen to a MAN and wake up too late? Or will we follow God and obey His Commandments today while probation lingers but a moment more as it were.

    Here is an excellent article written in 1862 on the Sabbath:
    and here is a book called the Andrews – History of the Sabbath and First Day of the Week:

    that took this man 20 years to compile in the early 1800's:

    This post is getting a bit long. Will continue in another post. Here is a link to many articles written by a part of the 144,000 of which you may still become a part of today if we strive lawfully - obeying all of God's 12 Commandments that enables us, allows us to enter the City of God with the indwelling Spirit of Christ that writes the law of God to our hearts, our desires our thoughts and feelings our daily little choices:

  9. Thanks for the history.

    Reality today requires our full attention, cooperation, and wise action to right the wrongs. Why was Jesuit-educated Tim Kaine chosen and who does he really serve?

  10. The Jesuit Military Order not a priesthood hate everyone including themselves. They have been abolished more than 80 times including from Italy by the Pope.
    Pope Clement XIIII abolished them. They poiisoned him.
    The Jesuit never forgets forsakes forgives.
    The Jesuit sets one side against the other and sits back and enjoys the entertainment as on the American Civil War.
    The Jesuit thrives on death and darkness and the effecting of society under their control. The Jesuit hates Gid Lird Jesus he Christ the KJV Bible and all Chrustians.
    The Jesuit will destroy the Pope and the Vatican and the Catholic and the Jew when he has no more use for them as the Jesuit us the anti Christ that go operates with whomever to a dive their goals and then gets rid of them. Real nice people the Jesuit.

  11. Vatican Assasdins by Reic Jon Phelps.
    Fifty Years in the Chyrch of Rome by Charles Chiniquy.
    These two books are good staring point to find out the truth about the Jesuit if you really want to know and can handle the truth.
    These things are nice to know.
    Not much can be done about unless you have the blessing of God to battle successfully against them.

  12. Nobody hates the Church more strongly than a fallen away Catholic, in my experience.

    1. Jesus was a Protestant. He protested the Jewish leaders stringent requirements upon the Divine Institution setup on the 7th day of the week of creation. The fourth Commandment is a huge blessing for those who obey it. All who do not obey all 12 Commandments are those who are "fallen away" from Christ, the true doctrines of Christ [Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the DOCTRINE OF CHRIST, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath BOTH [notice TWO BEINGS, not three] the Father and the Son. 2 John 1:9]. The TRUE Christ was born in the Spring, beginning of April not Dec 25. Tammuz, the Son of Semiramis who claimed she was impregnated by a ray of the SUN - who she said - (teaching immortality of the Soul, another lie of Satan from the Garden of Eden saying "Thou shalt NOT surely die, when God had said THOU SHALT SURELY DIE, the soul that sinneth it SHALL DIE...once if we are Christ's, and not the second death)...back to Semiramis who had Tammuz on Dec 25, the False Christ that the majority of the world bows down and worships on Dec 25th! as CHRIST-MASS, MASS FOR THE WORLD! Mary Christ MASS, Merry Christ MASS is Catholic MASS for the world! Because they are worshiping the trinity of Gods setup by NIMROD, TAMMUZ and Semiramis at the TOWER OF BABEL! This is the start of the TRINITY doctrine after the flood in Noah's time.

      Nimrod is Noah's GREAT GRANDSON! Noah had a son named HAM. Ham had a SON named CUSH. CUSH had a son named NIMROD. From Nimrod springs VALENTINES DAY! Nimrod married his MOTHER who was also his SISTER, this incestuous relationship started the TRINITY! TAMMUZ was born after Nimrod died, Semiramis fornicated and to cover up her sin she said Nimrod when he died - went to the sun and a ray of the sun impregnated her - Satan trying to copy the virgin Birth of the true Christ, a spring lamb born in the beginning of April instead of Tammuz's birthday of Dec 25.

      If you want to know more, search for "The Two Babylons by Alexander Hislop pdf" on Google and you can read this book free online or print it out to study it. It is great history of things we should understand to save our own souls by the blood of Jesus. The TRUTH is that we desperately NEED JESUS! The Spirit of Christ (1 Cor 15:45; Romans 8:9) which is the SPIRIT of the SON OF GOD who is also the SON OF MAN = both fully human and fully divine. The Son of God reincarnated into a human body per Hebrews 10:5 "a body thou hast prepared for me". Our only hope is to get into this one body by faith. The Body of Christ. He is mixed, blended, fused human and divine forever and His Spirit that enters us is both human and divine from the time of the cross and being raised an made a QUICKENING LIFE GIVING SPIRIT - a human blended with Divine Spirit - that enters our body and writes the 12 Commandments to our fleshy hearts, which means our thoughts and feelings, our daily little choices are made to be like Christs when we DAILY spend time with reading the Bible and praying to God in the name of His Son. "In that day you will no longer ask me anything. Very truly I tell you, my Father will give you whatever you ask in my name" John 16:23.

      Here is a great site about the truth about the Trinity: and

      Here are some PICTURES of NIMROD, TAMMUZ and Semiramis

    2. Hi Paul, my point for posting the above about the apostatized FORMERLY "PROTESTANT" churches was to show how the Jesuits HAVE infiltrated all of the former Protestant churches of America and have changed their doctrines into Catholic doctrines!

      1981: 34 years ago, SDA World President Neal C. Wilson blasphemously and boldly declared, "...There is another universal and truly catholic organization, the Seventh-day Adventist Church." (Review, March 5, 1981, page 3)

      In fact, in 1867 - 148 years ago - Ellen White predicted/foresaw the SDA church becoming Catholic! "The company now presented the appearance of a Catholic procession." Testimonies for The Church Vol. 1 p. 578, January 29, 1867.

      "There are men among us in responsible positions who hold that the opinions of a few conceited philosophers, so called, are more to be trusted than the truth of the Bible, or the testimonies of the Holy Spirit. Such a faith as that of PAUL, PETER, OR JOHN is considered old-fashioned and INSUFFERABLE at the present day. It is pronounced absurd, mystical, and unworthy of an intelligent mind" {5T 79.2}.

    3. Here is an excerpt from the Jesuit Oath of Induction "I furthermore promise and declare that I will, when opportunity present, make and wage relentless war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Liberals, as I am directed to do, to extirpate and exterminate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex or condition; and that I will hang, waste, boil, flay, strangle and bury alive these infamous heretics, rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women and crush their infants' heads against the walls, in order to annihilate forever their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly, I will secretly use the poisoned cup, the strangulating cord, the steel of the poniard or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the person or persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agent of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Faith, of the Society of Jesus....All of which, I, _, do swear by the Blessed Trinity and blessed Sacraments, which I am now to receive, to perform and on my part to keep inviolable; and do call all the heavenly and glorious host of heaven to witness the blessed Sacrament of the Eucharist, and witness the same further with my name written and with the point of this dagger dipped in my own blood and sealed in the face of this holy covenant."

    4. Fairy tale. Heretical website. no truth at

      More Catholic haters that make it up as they go.

      No references. No About link. No thanks

  13. Margy and ect:

    Try any version you like and you will get the same translation with some sight variation on some but the same resul:

    Now after you do this, the question is will you then believe?

    Probably not but your argument is not with me but the word. You have to prove to yourself what you believe is true is indeed true. Have you done this? Most of you have not not, and if you find something like it is God that created evil even if you read it as i have posted in other post, you will still not believe it. You will not believe that you have no free will, that God is moving all things according to the counsel of HIS WILL not ours, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

    By the way there is not such thing as the innerant word of God. i repeat there is no bible that is not tainted with false hood. But still for those the Father chooses to reveal Himself. Do i have a scripture that states this?

    Luk 10:22 All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him.

    So if you have ears to hear and eyes to see your will see and you will hear, but not because you have this free will thing.

    My only reason is to show you the truth to those will hear and see and you will if you desire it with all your mind and all your soul like you need the breath you breath.

    I will not make this a exhausting thread.


  14. Enough of the religious garbage.The Roman Empire created it to control and manipulate the minds of mankind.They have done a damn good good job of it for two thousand years.I agree it is important to understand what roll the church has played in our enslavement but it is mindless to argue over who is right and wrong over religion.We will never come together and do what we must do to be truly free as long as your religion stands in the way.This is a distraction and it must stop.You would be better off to keep your religious beliefs to your self and don't impose them on other people.Just agree to disagree on this subject and move on to the real issues.

  15. No one is imposing anything. The issues can be discussed in a civil manner without any force whatsoever except the persuasion of logic and history. If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.

    1. Romans 8:34
      Who is there to condemn us? For Christ Jesus, who died, and more than that was raised to life, is at the right hand of God--and He is interceding for us.

    2. All is an opportunity to open ones heart an embrace all states of being ,discerning all processes in expanding awareness ,adding value giving selflessly chosen spiritually redeeming qualities that regenerate ,healing from the abundance of love that is inescapable when in this present state of being ,synchronization abound in all reflections of being one and all. Even to hate is derived from love ,for the love is Omni potent ,Omni present in all emanating Being .please do not negotiate my illustration of a different view of what perception can due to any subject matter ,Catholics ,Pagans or what ever belief that is rebinding are still part of being in this alive state of the cosmos without time or measure .entirely boundless never starting or ending. why take one position in being ?a catholic or a Pagan is only one position of the mind within that concept ,everything together is perfectly work able ,that is unconditional love for all being ,making no judgment of another ONLY discernment for Gods creation of all being.

  16. you are right paul I don't have time for this crap

  17. Thank you Paul for at least giving another side to this story so we can make an educated decision about what really happened. As far as the dicussion of religion, and whos right ir wrong, how is anyone everyone going to prove anything when there are at least 100 different versions of the bible. Why so many versions for only "ONE TRUTH". If indeed, the global elite have an agenda of world dominence, dont you think they have already addressed this problem already to, like everything else they methodically think through. I submit to you that every single version of the bible has already be corrupted using the same semantic deceite(Dog-Latin as judge Anna puts it) to intentionally confuse and divide everyone causing just one more diversion away from our real problem....them. Ill make it easy for you...There is no "absolute truths", because there are no reference books we can trust, because they own all the publishing companies, and know enough about gods law to change or misinterprete certain passages they know for a fact are used constantly about defenders of their religions. The most we will ever have in the world we have negleted, and the global elite has taken advsntage of, is half-truths at best, and outward lies at worst. You talk about keeping Gods 12 laws, but every single person on earth using this debt monetary system, like us(especially us) are breaking the the first and most imporant 2 every single day, while hypocritically proclaiming the "good news". Correct me if im wrong but didnt HE demand that you should always treat people the way you would want to be treated. Appearantly that means today that as we steal from others, we can expect to be stolen from others too...daily. Every single bible only mentions MONEY.Not one ive read mentions "commercial debt instraments" which never "pays" anyone anything, since all it is capable of doing is discharging debt(handing everyone mere IOU's) whos whole purpose is to create more debt for everyone else everytime we use it. So next time you use $100 to "discharge" instead of actually "paying" for something, you are directly responsible for 10 other people either losing or creating even more debt and hardship for all your christian brothers and sisters, because that is its deceptively cleaver purpose, since it is designed on a fraudulent system of banking called "fraction reserve accounting". And by using there private script, they have deceived you into believing that all to willing prideful, honest and moral person that you are, never stole from anyone. Therein lays the biggest LIE of all. Hypocrites, all of you, i can hear jesus saying to all of you. Your doing the exact same thing as the "money changers" and you dont even know it as you go out and preach , with your superior knowledge of Gods word, that you committed they greatest of all crimes of stealing from everyone. You dont think the global elite rejoice at their superior intellect at deceiving you into believing that they have successfully converted you into one of them. Worse, you think your better, more moral than them...."And the lord allowed a strong deception to the world, such that everyone,rich and poor will worship the beast(our commercial debt system) instead of obeying God. And not 10, let alone 144,000 will be saved. Now do you see how important we correct this problem, before we can even have rational discussions about spirituality, or anything for that matter

  18. James, I know very well we are being forced to use debt based currency. We didn't create it. We are not responsible for having to use it.
    I have been in the silver business for many years, helping people convert their currency to something with real intrinsic value. I would welcome a debt based currency crash any time.
    So would my customers..
    Render unto Caesar... It's the corporation that will go broke. We can still barter. We are doing that more and more right now.
    There is nothing more we can do but continue to tell everyone the truth about what they think is money. Having to use their currency is not a sin. It does not condemn one to hell.. We are struggling to get control of our money system and have been for decades. Many have gone before us, and many have ended up in jail for a time over this, like the Montana Freemen, and even I was snatched up for 13 days in jail because I sold Leroy Schweitzer some radio gear and accepted one of his certified money orders, which the FBI stole from the banking system.

    So you should not be so quick in your judgements of how God looks at some of these things. Yes there will be people who are condemned for neglecting to inform themselves, but that is not up to us to judge. "Judge not lest you be Judged" On the other hand we are commanded to judge each situation in order to decide how we should conduct ourselves. That is an OBJECTIVE judgement that has to do with our own salvation, but NOT a subjective judgement of another person. So you do what your conscience dictates to you, and I will do what my conscience dictates, and we can discuss these matters OBJECTIVELY and try to get at the truth without a lack of charity towards our neighbor. Nobody here is swinging a sword, and threatening to kill each other. At least not yet.

  19. Amen. But i really wasnt talking about people on this blog. I was talkin about the 99% of the US Public. They dont seem to understand or worse could care less what we are talking about. This country seems to be the most deceived of all other countries, because this one is the only one capable of printing its own money. So if we enjoy a high standard of living cimpared to other countries, it comes at the expensive of other countries losing everything. Thats a built in mathmatical certainty when all they do is print only the principal, but never the interest(usury) to pay it back. Thats why God forbid "usury". Its a very deceptive way of stealing from other people. Its funny that the only countries we are demonizing are the only countries that will not allow usury...our currency. And they just happen to be muslim. Even Putin has been trying to tell us about our real problem here. It sure seems that Donald Trump gets it. He keeps saying wouldnt it be nice to finally get along with Russia...YES, it would. He isnt allowed to say much more without some shot from any grassy I should have cleared up one point though. Not all "commerical instraments" are inherently "evil". Just commerical DEBT instraments. John F Kennedy was the only president that realized we can print our own instraments, without interest(usury) and enjoy a high standard of living without putting other people or the country into debt.I still have one of those United States Notes, not federal reserve notes. And what was his reward. A bullet in the head. Only the foreign international banking community wants an agenda of global dominence by creating so much debt that We all lose eventually. Even judge Anna in one of her articles admits that she doesnt really have a good answer for honestly trading with one another without using money. But using paper instraments without usury that WE are in charge of, is a damn good start. And the printing presses are already here. Right now thats our best transition into some degree of normalancy. Dont you agree.?? The question is how do we get there, when we are fighting 99% of US CITIZENS,who cant see the forest through the trees. Worse yet, they dont want to. Can you blame the rest of the world for hating us with such contempt.

    1. Yes all true- tho I would say the "99%" figure is pessimistic in this late hour as the "sleeping giant" is slowly awakening more every day.
      Hope against hope in prayer for the Hand of Providence to hold back "the day and the hour" for more generations despite OUR failure by choosing "mammom" over true worship and wise thanksgiving.
      I would add in JFK's awakening that it was a trembling potus Ike that brought about a description in his Farewell address- offering the new potus advice when asked for. (("The vast industrial military complex" owned by "them" as war is thee biggest profit racket for the controllets of the nations; for 300yrs now))
      And after the Bay of Pigs misadventure Ike was summoned and enlightened JFK as to the powers that be.
      He then chose speaking out the truth risking all and lost.
      Tho he could have quietly gathered a full discovery on paper and tape first placing them in multiple hands and locations- before any divulging publically to "WE the People".
      He did not(being a sheltered playboy) realize the scope of just what was afoot nor the tentacles it posessed.
      Who did know that could've made a difference then to the "sleeping-giant"?
      Thank God for the internet tho eh...



    Catholic controlled fox news.

    Jesuits control the white house

    Vatican controls Jeruisalem

    Isaiah 37:16
    O Lord of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou hast made heaven and earth.


    Who do you think controlled Hitler to kill the jews so that they would never inherit Israel as the bible said they would.

  21. Few understand that we all 'live' in two worlds, one real (heaven-spiritual) and one artificial and false (ego-'self interested'). All arguments about 'dogma and doctrine' stem for the ego and do not represent Truth in any way. The Bible, although representative of many of the highest ideas of man, is not the final measure of Truth... God within the heart of each of us was created to discern Truth where ever it may exist, without reliance on any books, dogma, doctrine, or "great teachings". Our Creator created us this way, with the Creator's very Being at the core of our being. You are mistaken if you believe there are no "absolute truths". God in us, and in all that is, is the full expression of absolute Truth. The very 'Life Force' that animates all (even us) is a fine example of absolute Truth, without which no thing would exist.
    Our task, if we be humble and sincere, is simple to lay aside ego, reach out to help others to do likewise, and to let the functions of absolute Truth shine through everything we think and do...those functions are known by all of us as; Love, Peace, Beauty, Kindness, Wisdom, and all other 'attributes' of God.
    If we really want to 'defeat' the elitists and create a world of Love and Peace, we must follow the above in our own lives. Few recognize
    that we contribute daily to the elitist's power and control by entertaining thoughts and deeds of the lesser self (ego), which is actually the foundation of their source of power over us.

    1. CHRIST JESUS is the ultimate and final arbitrator of ALL truth for HE is the Alpha and the Omega:
      As well as the Creator, Living Word and only doorway to what lies beyond this mortal time, space and materially limited dimension He Created that fell at the hand of self aggrandized power and control in one who would seduce all of mankind but for a true and atoning Holy Savior willing to pay as a gift to the accepting, to even a thief on the cross.
      even to those that believe in His name;
      who were born not of blood,
      nor the will of man,
      but of God."

    2. CHRIST JESUS is the ultimate and final arbitrator of ALL truth for HE is the Alpha and the Omega:
      As well as the Creator, Living Word and only doorway to what lies beyond this mortal time, space and materially limited dimension He Created that fell at the hand of self aggrandized power and control in one who would seduce all of mankind but for a true and atoning Holy Savior willing to pay as a gift to the accepting, to even a thief on the cross.
      even to those that believe in His name;
      who were born not of blood,
      nor the will of man,
      but of God."

  22. WE have the Word - The Holy Spirit and the fellowship as requested of believers to enliven the "coals" of Faith, Wisdom and Understanding in congregation.
    Much as did the very Pilgrims+Puritans which directly emanated from the Reformation and Luther's epiphany of-
    "Salvation is by Faith not of works lest any man sbould boast" .
    These original Founder's of the New World and "freedoms under Liberty" fled tyrannical geo-religious political persecution risking EVERYTHING to start what graduated into what OUR Framer's rendition of what that truly means in OUR 3-Founding documents.
    of the condensed wisdom of mankind over mellenia= miraculous in a very darkened long history of failures and cruelties going back to the Fall of Mankind.
    WE get to choose.... only the Darkness of the ages, in mens hearts and the god of this world worked insidiously to undermine the fealty of the Lord's two greatest Commandment's but arranges the love of self, pleasure and mammon; set before us continually as well as overlording behind the scenes as relentless usurpers.

  23. All religion and any writings relative to it are pure speculation formulated within the minds of those with the audacity to suggest they know the truth. Were you or they there when the controlling religious books were created? The answer of course is no, you weren't. As long as religion exists there will never be peace on earth and good will toward men. Never ever! Another name for religious writings of all kinds is 'religious bull crap'. I hear so called Christians say things like it is so simple that it only takes the faith of a little child to believe. That is correct. How many of you would let your infant play unsupervised around an unguarded swimming pool. Not one of you because they have no sense until they age considerably. So the words 'child like faith' mean one would have to be very gullible, uninformed, or very ignorant of the dangers therein to believe what someone outside of your own spirit is trying to force you into believing. Force you say? Yes force! That evil book repeatedly sells its adherents on the idea there is only one way to heaven and all others result in a hell bound condition. The first sign of a false religion (they all are false) is the repeated threats toward those who do not believe in their particular brand of spirituality. You either believe or else you go to hell. Sounds more like threats made between children playing with others in a sandbox and having their toys taken away. There is no difference between islam and Christianity. They were both created to foment separation and discord upon the earth in an effort to keep our attention on dead end matters of no importance whatsoever while others rule over us and literally steal our lives from us. They have succeeded thus far, and the evidence is so glaring there is no denying it. Now there may be other civilizations beyond the stars and I suspect there are. But speculative religion is mankind's greatest enemy! When it is terminated from the earth mankind will be able to see clearly their place in the universe, and not before!

    1. Sorry to have to say you are one intentionally shallowly misguided person.
      To discount the Gospel's and the hundreds of fulfilled propheies making them more than *one in 10 to the 40,000 power is why your hollow grasp falls far far short of even a good attempt to disregard Christ Jesus...

    2. Sorry to have to say you are one intentionally shallowly misguided person.
      To discount the Gospel's and the hundreds of fulfilled propheies making them more than *one in 10 to the 40,000 power is why your hollow grasp falls far far short of even a good attempt to disregard Christ Jesus...

  24. Paul, I can appreciate your position as being willing to reason about your faith rather than most Catholics who are simply too close minded and dug into the trenches of their lifelong position to be willing to consider anything else. Allow me to share my own experience with you in my journey from being a lifelong RC into my expatriation and submission to the Lord’s instruction to me to “come out of her” as in Revelations 18:4.

    My father was a Jesuit seminary student who was thwarted by one of his teachers to not be able to graduate to become a White Missionary Father to Africa. I don’t know the reasons why but only that he is bitter about it to this day. He resigned his studies and went on to live a normal life, got married and had children. I am rather glad that this happened or I would not be here to be able to write this to you! However, needless to say we grew up in a strict catholic household.

    After I got married to a protestant girl, much to the chagrin of my father as you can imagine, I became a “born again” believer myself as Jesus talks about in John chapter 3 without which no man can see or even enter the kingdom. When I did, I honestly thought that I now finally understood what RC was all about and insisted my wife and I continue to go to the RC church for months. I bought a bible and devoured it and started questioning everything that was going on in church and could not fathom why the priests would not only misquote scripture but would even twist it to fit an agenda. I was shocked that they would veer off from the black and white scripture to promote manmade doctrines and traditions. I simply could not fathom that a dedicated priest would be unfaithful to the Holy and Sacred Scriptures.

    I continued to look for evidence to support the RC doctrine but the more I looked, the more I found the opposite. The one day on my lunch break, as I walked into a small donut shop, I noticed a pamphlet called “Scriptural Truths for Roman Catholics” on the cigarette machine. Aha, I thought, this is exactly what I have been looking for. I sat down with my bowl of soup and read the pamphlet cover to cover and was absolutely overwhelmed by this ex RC priest who explained why after many years he was compelled to leave the RC church. He very simply put RC doctrine side by side with scripture. His statement hit me right smack between the eyes and still rings in my ears today that given the choice between RC doctrine and tradition that differ from scripture, he had to choose scripture. I remember agreeing with him full heartedly and then went on to read the differences between the two and I was absolutely flabbergasted. I had a Martin Luther like epiphany that I had to take a stand of either continuing in error or resigning from it. “Here I stand, so help me God.” I was committed to be true to my Lord and to follow the truth wherever it would lead.

    My wife, who had been praying for me all this time, was thrilled but I knew that I had a battle ahead of me to try to explain what I had done to my Jesuit trained father and despite my every attempt to explain it to him in the gentlest of ways, he would not hear it and I became the black sheep of the family complete with blacklisting letters from him to all my siblings. I was excommunicated.

    I wrote him a 23 page letter to try to help him understand that I was not against him or his faith but that I had come to the conclusion after exhaustive study that RC doctrine did not match up with scripture which I had originally set out to prove that it did. It took 15 years before he finally came around and actually apologized for his behavior and treatment of me because he had seen over all these years that I had lived the faith I had preached and that I truly believed.

    1. My questions for most Catholics I minister to today is simply this: When you die as a Catholic, where will you go? Most will answer, heaven, and I gently correct them and explain that that is not accurate according to the RC catechism or doctrine. The correct answer is purgatory and they grudgingly admit and agree. I ask them if they know why and many will tell me that they have to pay for their sins. Then I ask them, do you want to go to purgatory? Of course everyone says, no. So then I ask them, do you know why Jesus died on the cross? Every single one of them will say, to pay for our sins. This is when I gently confront them and look into their eyes and ask, so if Jesus already paid for your sins, then why would you have to pay for them yourself? I always love seeing the light go on and hearing them say, I never thought of that!

      I will then go on to ask them if they are born again and they usually say, no. I ask them, can I show you where Jesus says that we must be born again or we cannot see or enter the kingdom? They never refuse and I open a pocket gospel of John and start reading Jesus’ very own words to them from the beginning of chapter 3. Many are convicted right then and there realizing that this simple truth has been withheld from them all these years.

      Jesus told the Pharisees: “But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.” Matthew 23:13

      Sadly, this is much the condition of not only of the RC church organization today but also of many protestant and other church organizations and denominations as well. I tell people that I myself am catholic but not Roman to which they say, that is impossible. I explain to them that catholic means universal and that I am part of the universal church of Jesus Christ, but I do not bow to Rome.

      The word church is the Greek word “Ecclesia” which means the “out-called”. As such, we as believers “called out” of the world, are the church and not some religious organization. Jesus literally said “…thou art Peter (“Petros”, literally “a piece of rock or stone”) and upon this the rock (“petra” literally “a mass of rock” of revelation of the truth that I am the Messiah the Son of God), I shall be building my “out-called believers”, meaning us as believers and not some religious organization. Jesus did not come to establish a religion or denomination of any kind but to restore the direct relationship between us and the Father. He was the last Adam to restore what the first Adam had given away. He did not come to setup a Pope over us: “And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.” Matthew 23:9. He did not appoint priests or any other intermediaries beside Himself between us and the Father because we are the priesthood of believers, as Peter plainly tells us so in 1 Peter 2:9.

      I will even take it a step further. You can argue all you want about doctrine all day long but Jesus said that by their fruits you will know them. We are commissioned by Jesus in John 14:12 to do the exact same works that He did and greater because He went to the Father. Yes, that literally means that we are to heal the sick, cleanse the lepers and raise the dead and tell them that the kingdom has come nigh unto them. These are His direct instructions which he confirmed right before He ascended in Matthew 28:18-20 and in Mark 16:17-18. This is how we are to be doers of the word and not hearers only.

      We are to be Jesus to the world and step into His footsteps and do the Father’s will endued with power from on high by the Holy Spirit, the same power by which Jesus did all His works, stretching forth the Father’s hand to accomplish signs and wonders in the name of Jesus to confirm His word. Only then are we truly His disciples. This is the true Spirit of Christ. “Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” Romans 8:9.

    2. 1FreeMan:
      An excellent purposeful and well intended post....!

  25. While I understand people reading and attempting to interpret the bible, whichever version they refer to, I learned 50 years ago that any document that has been interpreted by so many people(with good and bad intent) so many times, that is should be considered a good or bad read and that's it. Period. People still are hung up on Darwin's theory of the origin of the species which he subsequently switched sides, but only the first version was interpreted to be "the word".

    I live by my heart and non-aggression principles. I disengage those with whom I do not resonate. I did read the bible, I was a Sunday school teacher, I was a student, I became a Sunday School Supervisor and when the 'good' people of that church showed their hypocrisy with lack of support for the truth of the day, I left it all behind.

    I am Canadian, I faithfully attended Wolf Cubs, Boy Scouts and received my "Queen's Scout Honour", I graduated to Rovers and became a Scout Master. Scouts Canada changed the rules in 1967 and while I attempted to adapt, much of what was then being taught was following the civil trends of the day and not teaching critical thinking, survival, doing good deeds, not participating in fund raising to support our camps and camporees where we learned to co-operate with other scouts, our peers in society, a true interaction with people we didn't know.

    So while I follow both Paul and Anna, I am looking for that breakthrough where enough people wake up to the scam and take a stand to do something about it. We cannot do it individually, we will get picked off like sitting ducks. It has to be masses of people with the guts to go on strike.

    By the way, I am 69 and do hope to see this through before my time passes...

  26. I seems to me many writings, people who have lived and spoken, recorded things, have spoken the word of and lived Gods laws and are his/her church. One thing odd to me is why God, an eternal being would be a male, female or any form of reproductive being in that sense. Eternal spirits have no need to reproduce and God is everything, the entire Universe is the church. Since God sets you free, if you are abusive in the church that is your doing not God's not does it make God's work bad due to your actions if they are bad. I spoke to a man calling himself christian about what a Hopi Elder said and he immediately said he would go and find him and set the elder straight, prejudged him without ever meeting him not on the principles of the elders heart and actions but on ritual beliefs that ones own version of God is superior to someone elses. Like making your own judgement about your self before the great white judgment where only God knows the answer, certainly some seem to be self appointee proxys of agents claiming full judgment status as though on the judgement day God will have them doing the work of final review. The book of Enoch says when all the things concerning God are found and those things match up and make sense then that is the true word of God. The Bible says anyone who changes it loses place in heaven. Do you suppose every word of it is true and that no one changed it due to that warning? You must find God personally and accept the great friendship and wisdom on Gods terms not your own or only confusion and being lost and wandering will result.


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