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Wednesday, April 21, 2021


 By Anna Von Reitz

So here it is:
The US Debt is our American Credit. The corporation directly responsible for accruing the US Debt was not able or willing to pay us back. They went bankrupt---- and claimed that we were the Principals responsible for them, so that we were responsible for their debts---- like the co-signers on a loan.
They stole our identity, impersonated us, ran up our credit cards and bailed out.
Then they claimed that their corporation was owned and operated by us, so that we were responsible for their debts and for paying off their bankruptcy.
The Principals actually responsible for owning and operating their bankrupt corporation were, meanwhile, hiding in the weeds, pretending that they had Emergency Powers never delegated to them, allowing them to own and operate these commercial corporations "in our names" --- but not being responsible or accountable for their administration.
So, we called them on it.
We claimed the US Debt as our indemnity, so they delivered the Labor Bonds to our Possession--- even though they remain responsible for the Issuance of the bonds. This evidence of their debt is the evidence of the credit owed to the American States and People --- the labor part of the debt, only.
The debt owed in all other commodities, gold, silver, land, etc., is owed by the Territorial United States corporation and its charter holders in Great Britain.
Before we "accept" in the commercial sense, any portion of the US Debt for forgiveness or the income/profit of these bonds, there are many issues to be settled.
Those who are following along realize that the ownership of all the corporations that have been chartered in our names since 1870 is an issue.
So are the unlawful and illegal operations of many of these corporations, which have been allowed to run amok and act as predators. This has spawned a "culture of crime" in America and around the world that has to be corrected.
These criminal activities are focused in specific ways, especially via the unlawful conversion of living flesh into a securitized commodity, which is then "monetized" to issue the labor-based currency, and also, via the exercise of unlawful patents, and purloined copyrights and trademarks.
The Perpetrators have been doing this by evading the Public Law through such stunts as claiming (falsely) that all the Americans have magically disappeared and have instead agreed to function as Territorial U.S. Citizens and/or Municipal citizens of the United States ----- which allows the Vermin to bypass and evade their constitutional obligations owed to those same Americans.
Or, as we have seen, by removing both the gold and silver commodity standards so as to legalize commodity rigging.
All this wiggling and writhing and evasion is truly worthy of snakes, but it all comes down to a stout garden hoe and the will to use it.
I have been accused of being "stupid" by Phil Hudok and Iran Lopez and numerous others who have been slurping up the remedies offered by the Perpetrators. Let me explain how their proposed remedy actually works.
Let's pretend that I am a pirate (as most of these people are) and I steal the value of your labor and put it in one pocket, and then I steal your gold and silver and land assets and put all that in my other pocket.
Later, you catch up to me, and you want your stuff back.
If you say you want the value of your labor returned, I pay you using your own gold.
If you say you want your gold and silver and land back, I pay you using the value of your own labor.
Not a penny of this offered "remedy" comes out of the pirates who stole all your stuff and used all your assets to profit themselves for over 150 years, does it?
No, it does not. You are stuck using your resources to pay for their sins and debts if you accept their "remedy" --- which is actually no remedy at all from your standpoint.
Just because someone offers a remedy doesn't mean you have to accept it.
I may offer you the "remedy" of chopping off your head in lieu of disemboweling you, but you may have other ideas.
So who is stupid? Those who accept the return of one purloined asset as payment for another purloined asset of theirs get my vote.
And those who accept Federal Reserve Notes (backed by their own labor) as payment for their gold, silver, and land --- are the dumbest of all.
So on a scale of 1 to 10, Grandma is doing pretty well and the rest of these guys are eating their own cake and thinking that this is "remedy" for debts owed to them.
Any American who takes this deal would have to be smoking something stronger than tobacco.
In fact, the only people who would -- relatively speaking -- gain from the offered remedy, would be actual British Territorial U.S. Citizens. Why?
Because they have no gold, silver, or land assets in the first place, so if they get a dollop of their own labor value back in exchange for giving up something that was never theirs --- it's gravy for them, like overtime pay.
Remember that in the British System, all actual value vests in the Queen. There isn't a British Citizen on Earth who owns his own land, gold, or silver.
Giving up their interest in such things is a moot point. The Queen has already stolen their gold, silver, and land, so the pirate in our story only got one pocketful of loot from them to begin with: their labor assets.
As Federal Reserve Notes "represent" labor commodity assets, getting back Federal Reserve Notes may appear to be a fair remedy to them, because that's all they contributed and all they have at risk.
The rest of us, however, would be fools --- well and truly --- to settle for such an accommodation.
We have the other "pocket full" of our assets at risk that need to be returned by the Queen's Government and the Boyz of Westminster, who seized upon them under conditions of non-disclosure, constructive fraud, Breach of Trust, and deceit in dereliction of duty.
They knew we, Americans, weren't knowingly, willingly, and voluntarily lined up in our cradles agreeing to "donate" our Good Names, our land, our gold, our silver, and our material estates to the Queen at three weeks of age. Or in grade school, when we unknowingly recited "The Pledge of Allegiance" without disclosure, either. They knew that for sure.
They also knew that they didn't give our Mothers any full disclosure when they were pressed (as in press-ganged) to "abandon" their babies as wards of the British Territorial State of State organizations.
And why is that?
Because snatching babies and alienating them from their natural-born nationality and jurisdiction is a capital crime under both the Geneva and Hague Conventions. And it's an especially heinous crime when it takes place in Breach of Trust against your loyal Employers, who have stood at your back and paid your debts through two World Wars.
Grandma hasn't lost sight of that one, either.
The Labor Bonds have been returned because they need to be forgiven and the currency converted into a credit-based currency. Fine. We can do that.
The Queen and Westminster have yet to cough up their part of the hairball and return all the purloined titles to our land assets, including the copyrights to our Proper Names, the gold and silver that their misdirected commercial corporations shipped offshore "for safe-keeping" and all the other assets of ours that they purloined and benefited from in our purported "absence".
There is no question that this is owed and that the eyes of the world are upon them. Britain's reputation doth precede them. Too often, this "combined government" of the Monarchs and the Lords of Admiralty, has chosen war instead of peace, self-interest instead of justice. We all remember the Raj.
So batten down and see what happens. Will Britain rise to the occasion? What will happen to them if they don't? Will their new Allies in China witness their treatment of their old Allies in America and expect any better treatment themselves?
Or will the Chinese remember the Opium Wars and the Boxer Rebellion, the same way that the Americans needed to remember The War of Independence in 1868?
Nobody can turn on the charm like the Brits when they want to. The room lights up and the Blarney flows. They really would have you thinking that poo -- at least your poo --- doesn't smell. They will happily welcome you into their secret club, if they have an ax to grind and you have a grindstone.
But America, and World-at-Large, think well and think truly.

These Charmers have invaded more countries than any other Empire in human history, including Rome.


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  1. This is all pretty vague and difficult to follow or understand. It seems to be mired in legalese and alternate history. What should we do to correct it? How should we cash checks or deposit cash. Should we buy gold with fiat currency? WHAT? Can we use credit to pay the IRS?, Is there an IRS? Is there a USA corporation we can deal with?

    1. Agree.
      There are a mammoth 3100+ articles with some giving differing info.

    2. Sounds like your new to the "fight".. Start reading the material on " Yes you have been told U.S. history... now it is time you read American history... you just need to clean out most everything you have been indoctrinated.... Good Luck

    3. Oh no, I've been around for years.
      They seem to have banned me from this website a couple years ago.

      Richard, why are there two Cancellations of All Powers of Attorney in the 928 packet?
      I haven't ever received an answer.
      Do you know? Thanks, janmarie.

    4. There are many cancelations of All Powers of Attorney in the 928 paperwork. The first is in the Acknowledgement, Acceptance and Reconveyance. The second in the Certificate of Assumed Name. When the original article was published there was not a template entitled Cancellation of all Powers of Attorney or the Paramount Claim. With these Pirates you must repeat yourself 3 times. I did a cancellation of all powers of Attorney a year before finding Anna's site. I've done 4 since. The big thing to learn is to not only do the cancellations but to not contract with them anymore.
      Annie McShane Delaware Coordinator

  2. aux contrair... you problem is ,, you have not taken the time to Read...Period.... Clarity comes from Truth,,, Anna has explained ,, Several Times,, the answers to ALL of your questions,, in Detail,, not less than six different times,, EACH..
    She has, on the included web link, a search box top center of page, that searches the articles (over 3k) on the website...
    You will find ALL the answer's to your particular questions in the articles written in the last 3 months,, (tip: start at the last article and decend in article number.)...
    Your other problem is ,, you must -- not should --must-- realize our "goverments", for the past 156 years have NOT been legitimate.. they are organized crime syndicates deliberatly BS-ing you in every concievable way to rob you and get away with it.
    Anna and her team are the ONLY lawful way to reclaim our heritage and still live another day..
    your mission mr phelps--should you choose to accept it,, is to
    Read--LEARN--AND SELF GOVERN--THE WAY IT WAS SET UP,, BY Ben Franklen AND HIS Team.. and its all laid out on annvonreitz .com and,, theamericanstatesassembly .net...
    You,,, have to BECOME,, the American you Claim to Be..
    and its Your choice -- ...
    Take responsibility for your life.. or sit back and let your situation,, and world,, go to hell in a handbasket...
    I all boils down to READ and DO.. or -- not ,,,... and a choice not made is still a choice,, do or be done to,,..

    1. Are you saying there should not be a clear, step by step "procedure" after all these years and thousands of articles?

      Paul, be sure my comments are not shadowbanned or otherwise deleted from your website please! Trying to help the people! Thank you paul.

    2. There are CLEAR STEP BY STEP procedures, today which were not available to those of us who began our re-education process more than 3 years ago... Do some homework

    3. Again Richard, can you explain the inclusion of two Canc of All PoAs in the 928 packet?
      If so, would you please share that information with all the rest of us?
      Tks, janmarie.

  3. .
    "How should we cash checks or deposit cash. Should we buy gold with fiat currency? WHAT? Can we use credit to pay the IRS?, Is there an IRS?"

    Dont worry the Reset will change everything - if its DJT and not the oligarchy -central bank

    There will be a Digital wallet and digital cash no hand money when the OFS will have complete control.

    let see what happens

    List of Changes for NESARA / GESARA Posted By: Mr.Ed

    NESARA = National Economic Security and Recovery Act

    GESARA = Global Economic Security and Recovery Act

    NESARA is the most ground breaking reformation to sweep not only this country but our planet in its entire history. The act does away with the Federal Reserve Bank, the IRS, the shadow government, and much more.

    NESARA implements the following changes:

    1. Zeros out all credit card, mortgage, and other bank debt due to illegal banking and government activities. This is the Federal Reserve’s worst nightmare, a “jubilee” or a forgiveness of debt.

    2. Abolishes the income tax.

    3. Abolishes the IRS. Employees of the IRS will be transferred into the US Treasury national sales tax area.

    4. Creates a 14% flat rate non-essential new items only sales tax revenue for the government. In other words, food and medicine will not be taxed; nor will used items such as old homes.

    5. Increases benefits to senior citizens.

    6. Returns Constitutional Law to all courts and legal matters.

    7. Reinstates the original Title of Nobility amendment.

    8. Establishes new Presidential and Congressional elections within 120 days after NESARA's announcement. The interim government will cancel all National Emergencies and return us back to constitutional law.

    9. Monitors elections and prevents illegal election activities of special interest groups.

    10. Creates a new U.S. Treasury rainbow currency backed by gold, silver, and platinum precious metals, ending the bankruptcy of the United States initiated by Franklin Roosevelt in 1933.

    11. Forbids the sale of American birth certificate records as chattel property bonds by the US Department of Transportation.

    12. Initiates new U.S. Treasury Bank System in alignment with Constitutional Law.

    13. Eliminates the Federal Reserve System. During the transition period the Federal Reserve will be allowed to operate side by side of the U.S. treasury for one year in order to remove all Federal Reserve notes from the money supply.

    14. Restores financial privacy.

    15. Retrains all judges and attorneys in Constitutional Law.

    16. Ceases all aggressive, U.S. government military actions worldwide.

    17. Establishes peace throughout the world.

    18. Releases enormous sums of money for humanitarian purposes.

    19. Enables the release of over 6,000 patents of suppressed technologies that are being withheld from the public under the guise of national security, including free energy devices, antigravity, and sonic healing machines."

    1. .
      look at al the executive orders from 1990 forward and see where it was signed but not completed into law

    2. What would it take for Nesara/Gesara to be implemented, after 30 years? Our Lawful Assemblies? Would these be considered a "New Declaration of Independence/Bill of Rights"? Or an addendum to what has already been established? Who gets to vote on it?
      If this was initially brought forth, and made as an "Executive order" by a fictional government in "legal LaLa Land" can there still be a nexus over to Lawful? Or because it was initiated over there in "their" fictional world "they" have the copyright to that as well?

    3. Maximus, EO 13818 was signed wasn't it? Or not?
      It looks like it is in the Fed "Regis"(ROYAL)ter.

      The one I'm talking about was (if I recall correctly) signed on or around 12/21/2019, maybe 2018.
      It's the one where the traffickers /criminals' /wrong -doers assets/property can be seized.

      Paul it is important that the people receive all viewpoints and information related to what you are publishing on your website. Please make sure that my respectfully-placed comments show up.

      Also, on the verification process that determines that I not a robot: I am having to go through up to 10 or more screens to prove I am not a robot and it seems like up to 5 or 6 screens, even in the mostly indeterminate situations, be plenty. Would you mind checking to see why this is happening and also whether it is, in fact, necessary? Tks, janmarie.

  4. Thanks Anna for backing up the previous article "Additional Issues for the International Court of Justice -- Blood Money 10 -- Commodity Rigging" with this article. I was about to post a comment inquiring why the biggest Commodity that has been usurped, and used as the foundation for all the other Commodities was neglected in that Article. Good to see that it was touched upon once more.
    Can we say "Human Resources"? Most every Corporation has a department for just that, even though the ones that are employed in this department have no idea what the true definition of "HUMAN" means.

    1. Foscolos00
      Are you aware that that is a UN COURT. . .a United Nations Court? It's a Fiction.

    2. goodE2boots; I asked Anna over a month ago many questions concerning the letters she posted that were addressed to this "Court", to wit nary a one has been answered. This "Court" and all of the people that are employed within are highly suspect in my view.
      The only true court should be ours. There should be no court that has any higher jurisdictional power than ours. No outside international intervention should ever be pleaded. What higher ground standing could this "Court" ever possess, and by what means, and funds would be used to enforce any of "their" rulings over any "Governmental Body", "Corporation", "Entity"...let alone US? Get our courts up and running with "Lawful Money" and ask no-one for "their" opinion much less "their" rulings. Of by, and for the People. .

    3. < US > was typed in at the very end of the above paragraph it was deleted when I published it. Seems like AI didn't approve LOL.

    4. foscolos,
      Without going point by point:
      I agree;
      that is, (in my own words) 'The trespasses, if any, were committed against men and women and their sons and daughters on the actual physical land and soil that belongs to us; so, the trials have to be here, upon the same land and soil that the trespasses (if any) were committed upon:
      AND ALSO: we have the inherent right to hold those trials according to the law we are under, that is: the laws of nature and nature's creator/God, not "the sea" or "the air" or under international authorities.
      Further, if they want to have trials in international auth., That does not keep us from having the right to have our own trials here.
      And the trials we will conduct, being living men and women, and our judgements supercede all other trials and judgements: those other authorities being DERIVED AUTHORITIES (that is: derived from our genuine and freewill consent (1. Intention 2. Declaration 3. Uncoerced Doing)) since the living people are the ONLY holders of INHERENT (CREATOR -GIVEN) AUTHORITY: and
      all other authority pertaining to us or our property is DERIVED from our consent.

    5. On Saturday, April 10, 2021 Paul posted this Article(Posted by Paul Stramer at 9:22 PM) ;
      Additional Issues for The International Court of Justice - 10 April 2021 -- Blood Money 4

      These were my questions that have yet to be answered;
      Foscolos00April 11, 2021 at 11:28 AM
Dearest Anna, the statement “This is being reported to The International Court of Justice …”was made above, if these questioned can be answered I am sure more clarity can be attained, and belief that there will be a reckoning.
      1. Who presides within “The International Court of Justice”?
      2. What are these Men, and Women’s Names?
      3. What Countries do they hail from?
      4. Have these Men, and Women corrected their record as we are instructed to do?
      5. If they have, where can we obtain a copy of this public record?
      6. Who pays for this “Court”?
      7. What “Law” does this “Court” base it’s determinations on?
      8. What past cases have been determined by this”Court”?
      9. Have this “Court’s” rulings been honored ?
      10. What Country, Corporation(s), Body Politic… has been ruled against, and has been held accountable?
      11. Who or What does this “Court” use for enforcement.
      12. Who pays for the enforcement?
      13. Is there Public access to this court’s records?
      14. When should we all expect a response to all the affidavits that were sent, and filed with this “Court”?
      These are just a few questions that I pray will be answered for all of US.
      Thanks Anna, and any one else that has knowledge to these questions answers.
Foscolos00April 12, 2021 at 10:28 AM
The ultimate questions are;
      1. Does this forum ie., “The International Court of Justice” have immunity?
      2. Who granted their immunity?
      3. What "Law" is their immunity based on?
      4. Can “The International Court of Justice” be questioned, and have charges brought against them for dereliction of duties?

    6. Just deleted my comment!!

      Maybe it was a unicorn!!!��

    7. Was saying-
      Your questions are really important.
      Keep them handy.
      They have to be answered.

      If the ones with the answers don't want to answer, then we just have to assume they don't take themselves and what they say seriously so we won't take them seriously either.

      They don't like to be reminded that they are only KINGS AND QUEENS AND RELIGIOUS LEADERS in FICTION WORLD.
      Here in NOT FICTION WORLD they are just men and women on equal standing with the rest of us men and women.
      They forget not all of us believe FICTION WORLD or unicorns and elves.
      Well just have to keep bringing it to their attention.

  5. .
    What is all this tied to............

    the alleged document that called the B.C. paper

    “[Very] soon, every American will be required to register their biological property in a National system designed to keep track of the people and that will operate under the ancient system of pledging. By such methodology, we can compel people to submit to our agenda, which will affect our security as a chargeback for our fiat paper currency.

    Every American will be forced to register or suffer not being able to work and earn a living. They will be our chattel, and we will hold the security interest over them forever, by operation of the law merchant under the scheme of secured transactions. Americans, by unknowingly or unwittingly delivering the bills of lading to us will be rendered bankrupt and insolvent, forever to remain economic slaves through taxation, secured by their pledges.

    They will be stripped of their rights and given a commercial value designed to make us a profit and they will be none the wiser, for not one man in a million could ever figure our plans and, if by accident one or two would figure it out, we have in our arsenal plausible deniability. After all, this is the only logical way to fund government, by floating liens and debt to the registrants in the form of benefits and privileges.

    This will inevitably reap to us huge profits beyond our wildest expectations and leave every American a contributor or to this fraud which we will call “Social Insurance.” Without realizing it, every American will insure us for any loss we may incur and in this manner; every American will unknowingly be our servant, however begrudgingly. The people will become helpless and without any hope for their redemption and, we will employ the high office of the President of our dummy corporation to foment this plot against America.”

    – Edward Mandell House; in a private meeting with Woodrow Wilson [President 1913-1921] – source unknown.


    Colonel Edward Mandell House helped to pick the charter members of theoriginal Federal Reserve Board;

    Philip Dru – Administrator;

    G. Edward Griffin: The Creature From Jeckyll Island

    1. I posted this April 12, 2021 at 7:55 AM on Anna's article;
      Additional Issues for The International Court of Justice - 10 April 2021 -- Blood Money 4

      A good friend sent this to me earlier this morning;
      Remember Khrushchev's prediction? Pine Knoll Shores December 8, 2020 TO THE EDITOR:

      Here is the so called rebuttal;
      PolitiFact | No, Khrushchev didn’t say this about Americans 60 years ago

      Whether Khrushchev said this or not this statement sure seems to be playing itself out.
      Same with Edward Mandell House's statement...

      I am providing now Khrushchev's alleged statement for those that can't open up a link.

      “Your children’s children will live under communism. You Americans are so gullible. No, you won’t accept Communism outright; but we will keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you will finally wake up and find you already have Communism. We will not have to fight you. We will so weaken your economy, until you will fall like overripe fruit into our hands.” “The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.”
      The above link to Pine Knoll Shores paper gives the Editor's corroborating viewpoint that Khrushchev's statement/prediction has been, or becoming fulfilled.
      The same can be said for what Edward Mandell House was alleged to say.

    2. For those that want to believe that neither Khrushchev, nor Colonel Edward Mandell House made these respective statements; fine. That point matters not to me. Try arguing that both of these statements are not true no matter the source.

  6. Anna, Why do the labour bonds need to be forgiven?
    Why does the currency need to be conveyed into credit based currency??

    1. There is no underlying Good Faith Agreement known to me and in my possession at this time, between me a woman and another man/wo, where I agreed to have any of my property used in commerce by any Legal Fiction.

      And if true, then that means that what has been done is a trespass upon me, a woman, and my property.

      Even james belle cher, anna's husband and belle cher family member, has already said there is not such a contract.. .That would mean then, that the trespasses against us men and women can only be forgiven by us, the man or woman trespassed upon us. . . if we elect to forgive. . .and I don't., (a corporation owned by the Vatican?) cannot speak for men and women without lawful AND lawfully obtained authorization to do so.. . . And presently, I know of no such proof having been verified and properly recorded that I ever knowingly and intentionally issued, from my own genuine freewill and under conditions of full disclosure, any such required and lawful authorization.

      If it exists, it has to be lawfully proven, verified, recorded, and so forth. Without full lawful proof, everything else is just 'jibbering'.

    2. You have copies of the corporate charter you speak of? What about tacit aquiescence? You ever agree to anything like a car title or accept any offers from United States or other corporate offers by remaining silent. While you do not recall any contracts you might be surprised what they say is a contract. Any question you need answered is dutifully provided for you more than once. Stop whining and put your nose to the grindstone and find something useful for us all in our hours of need

  7. Like in America the neoconservative Aka Canaanite humanist meaning they are GOD .
    The Babylonian Talmud were founder of Freemasonry Nimrod gave his clan operating instructions: hate your masters ,never tell the truth. Love vice .
    The English Isles are conquered at least back to Cromwell and his Rabbi who attacked the Catholic and the king who stood with Christians.
    They won due to ability to fund armies.
    Sounds like America.
    Totally obfuscating for world wrecking Canaanite and thair cohorts,BLM,ANTIFA ,Sorros,all the Bankers,APAC and hundreds more that terrorize congress ,the president,.
    Rothschild too over all investments for Vatican .
    Of course it’s same old Karen Hudes protect the cyndicate .
    We’re Timothy McVey or Oswald or Tim Ozman when you need a patsy .
    So retrain Jurist beat up on corporations why its the NWO who owned 50% of all wealth in America back 1945.
    Really same old story same old song and dance .
    Only thing that can begin to penetrate the secret society’s and get to king pens are common law grand juries. Any thing less is favoritism.

    1. Yes, and even at that, Grand Juries are unlawful to men/wo because they can be (and are) used as a way of accusing/tainting the reputation of a man/wo while depriving that man/wo's of their right to face their accusers!

      A Grand Jury can be convened upon an accusation; and that then results in a man/wo's family, friends, and associates being SUBJECTed to being called before the GJ for questioning; and those who are questioned are PUT UNDER AUTHORITY of the Grand Jury to keep the GJ proceedings a secret from the accused!
      Even though their family or friend is being accused of some very serious wrong-doing!

      The use of GJs on men/wo specifically, and by design, deprives men/wo of their right to face their accusers!

      Even if there is never an indictment of the accused, that man/wo HAS TO HAVE THEIR RIGHT TO stand before the people (the holders of inherent authority) and

      Without that happening, people can go around lying about someone; drag their friends and families before specially-selected secret "Grand Jurors" for harassment; keep re-convening GJs until they have either tainted the unsubstantively accused's reputation so thoroughly that they can never recover (since all who are called before GJs are forever sworn and held to secrecy about the "proceedings", under penalty) or their family and friends are never sure if nothing actually happened or if something did happen but there just wasn't enough evidence to indict the accused friend or family member.

      And the family and friends can never find out what their accused loved one has to say about the accusation because they can never tell their loved one that they had been accused because if they do tell them, then they themselves could be imprisoned or otherwise punished for telling the accused that someone had accused them of something.

      All accusers have to record their claim on the record and make their claim before the people;
      No Secret Panels, Jurors, Juries, Proceedings.
      Record the claim.
      Prove the claim.
      Let the accused answer the claim.
      Let the people decide if the claim has been proven or not.
      Full jury.
      Open gallery -- gallery members can speak, gallery members can give their testimony in the witness chair in open court.
      Open it up.
      No secret accusations, courts, juries, proceedings.

      The truth doesn't need secrecy.

    2. Agreed a standard wrong doer / claimant in common law court but with criminals power to dig up evidence.
      Big help in racketeering and political connected carpetbaggers under martial law only grand juries of locals could root them out.

      Out book the people’s panel .

    3. Bubba,
      The GJ Panel Members would have to be Deputized (after probable cause has already been established...) by the people: with certain, narrow, and specific, and very limited investigative "Powers" such as
      are specified in the Bill of Rights, Article Four, again, where "probable cause" has already been fully established before any "investigation" is allowed by the people to take place.

      And then the GJ would only be Deputized by the people to, for instance:
      1 collect very specifically defined proof that corroborates the probable cause 'theory'
      2 from a specific man/wo
      3 at a certain place
      4 during a very narrow period of time...
      And if the GJ can't accomplish all that within the short time frame of their Deputization, then the Deputization is removed by the people who conferred it....
      Like BillorR, Art4.

      If it's not strictly done that way, then we end up with what we have now where people convene GJs on "suspicion" -- w/o probable cause being established and then use the GJ and harass the accuseds's family and friends and neighbors and associates while the GJ conducts a "fishing expedition"... trying to FIND prob. cause linked back to someone's unverified "suspicion".

      Without those limits and restraints it devolves into "Bring me the man and I'll find a crime", especially since the Agents who make the accusations based on suspicions and bring them to the GJs don't have a contract unless they have someone identified as suspicious... Just like Child Protective Services Agents get commissions, apparently, when they make an accusation about a mother or father.... the commission amount dependent upon the son or daughters age... the younger, the more the commission... is the scuttlebutt going around right now.

    4. I know the inquisition into matters needs close scrutiny and probable cause .
      However the defacto has usurped all grand juries.
      Only a few common law juries are wrestled away from Defacto,
      Go to Florida common law grand jury .com Rogers site .
      And the reputation of common law grand juries is nothing but good taking down corrupt politicians.
      Tell you they won’t do anything to the corrupt perpetrators look at the false flags only patsy’s go to jail and BLM ,ANTIFA walk free .

  8. With great power comes great responsibility.
    Dictators and supporters fear the people’s court because they don’t control it.
    The grand juries come from Magna Carta.
    We as a people are being scared into submission,we need wins to get over it .
    As Ammon Bundy recently said more peopl need to get active and a stand he’s whooped by frivolous law suits .

  9. I see nothing but thoughtful topics on this thread analysis of the situation who has power to do what .
    Anna has great point every debt has an equal credit and no country has balanced the books letting the debts accumulate that’s thair power scarring the masses and becoming debt slaves .

  10. Paul probably the smartest members of Michigan assembly said recently that’s were Anna is weak one of the first things an assembly need to do is get thair 25 member grand juries seated .

    Only one sheriff and one deputy emollient per constitution can you point to your emollient and grunt as they quip.


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