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Friday, November 2, 2018

Dual Versus Singular Citizenship

By Anna Von Reitz

One of the things that sets "U.S. Citizenship" apart from American State Citizenship is duality. The Federales --- from their standpoint anyway --- are content to let you keep your "state citizenship" intact and still also be considered a "U.S. Citizen". As it says in their 14th Amendment --- "citizen of the United States" and "the state in which they reside".

[Please note --- it's their 14th Amendment, not ours, and it's an "Amendment" to their corporation's Articles of Incorporation disguised as "a" Constitution. And you are right, their 14th Amendment was never ratified by the States of the Union, for the simple reason that amending the By-Laws of a Scottish commercial corporation only requires approval by the Board of Directors --- in this case, the Territorial United States Congress.]

The problem is that the Federales can't alter the rules that the States adopted, which require a single State Citizenship.

The actual States don't recognize Dual Citizenship. You are either a Minnesotan or you are not.
It doesn't matter to them if you came from Germany or Zimbabwe. You have the option once you have immigrated through the U.S. and established your new permanent domicile on the land of Minnesota to declare yourself a Minnesotan.

When you do, you have to leave all other claims of foreign allegiance and nationality behind. The Founders considered Dual Citizenship to be "serving two Masters" and an inherent "conflict of interest" that could not be condoned.

So, if you wish to retain your identity as a Wisconsinite, you have to go whole hog or none.

Wisconsin will not recognize you as one of its own if you voluntarily retain any other political allegiance, including any allegiance to the Territorial State of Wisconsin or the Municipal STATE OF WISCONSIN. You have to cleave to the actual State and not merely "reside" there on a temporary basis, if you want to be recognized as an American State Citizen.

Throughout most of our history this was clearly understood and it was also understood that our people sometimes migrated back and forth between their State Citizenship and "United States Citizenship". Men who served in the military were considered to be on a temporary "loan" to the United States and to be "residing" in Federal jurisdiction during their period of service obligation, but returned home upon discharge from the service. Same thing with Congressional Delegates, who did their business in the District of Columbia, and then returned home to their home States.

The First Naturalization Act passed by the United States Congress described a lengthy process by which an American State Citizen could transition to permanent United States Citizenship, if they wished to do so. It required posting Notices over time and supporting oneself without public assistance and committing no felonies, etc., There is no doubt that adopting "United States Citizenship" versus birthright citizenship as a Citizen of Maine, was a sober, deliberate, and lengthy process.

Also, all new immigrants had to pass through "United States Citizenship" before adopting a final State Citizenship, and again, the decision to adopt State Citizenship required deliberate action on the part of each one.

Say that you came from Germany originally. You would first pass through the Naturalization process and become a "United States Citizen". You were then free to move about the country and not subject to the INS anymore, no green cards, no quasi-parole status as a visitor--- but you were not a State Citizen.

In order to become a State Citizen, you had to (and still have to) meet other requirements and make the deliberate choice to "declare" your intention and publish it and establish a home in the State of your choice and stay there for a stipulated period of time (usually a year) without committing any felonies or making use of public assistance.

There is a famous case from Minnesota (Rheume) that discusses the necessity of immigrants declaring their State Citizenship.

The fundamental difference is that "U.S. Citizens" occupy the Federal jurisdiction within a State and "reside" in the federated "States of States", whereas State Citizens live in their State of the Union.
Example: An active duty Lieutenant in the US Air Force lives in the State of South Dakota, but my friend Anne lives in South Dakota "proper".

Think in terms of Army bases like Fort Hood, for example, which exists within the borders of Texas. You have people from every State who live within the confines of Fort Hood which is Federal Territory within Texas and for the term of their service obligation, all those active duty personnel are "U.S. Citizens" living in the "State of Texas" even though they may have been born in Texas and have their natural birthright nationality and citizenship as Texans.

When they leave active duty and inform the General Staff of the Army that they are returning home to Texas and their birthright political status, they pop back into view as Texans and as State Citizens of Texas.

The British Territorial United States and the Municipal United States oligarchy run by the members of the Territorial Congress have long sought to keep everyone in the status of "U.S. Citizen" because that allows them to tax and control and make claims against the assets of the people involved. It is that monetary self-interest that has led to most of the abuses we now suffer and also to the corruption of the courts and the obfuscation of the facts about State Citizenship.

They don't want you to know that you can adopt your lawful State Citizenship and enjoy your freedoms and the guarantees of the Constitutions, because they lose money and control when you renounce "U.S. Citizenship" in favor of, for example, Texas Citizenship.

Nonetheless it is your birthright as an American, and so long as you are not a federal employee, dependent, or "voluntarily" operating as a U.S. corporation, THEY have nothing to say about it, except, "Yes, Sir!"


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  1. CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS v. REUM(Circuit Court of Appeals, Eighth Circuit.May 29, 1893.)and not otherwise. ARE YOU A U.S. CITIZEN BY CHOICE OR BY PRESUMPTION? Google it! Thank the Informer

  2. Feds controls the process of naturalization how to become a citizen. but. States controld immigration . Immigration is ppl crossing borders.
    unfortunately we let the feds controld it all.

  3. COLLET v. COLLET, 2 U.S. 294 (1792)

  4. This may be useful:
    And this: The Expatriation Act of 1868 was an act of the 40th United States Congress regarding the right to renounce one's citizenship. ... The Expatriation Act of 1868 was codified at 25 Rev. Stat. § 1999, and then by 1940 had been re-enacted at 8 U.S.C. § 800.

  5. I was born in Toledo, am 76 and retired for three years in Florida.
    Can I become a citizen of the state of Florida and renounce my U.S. citizenship?

    1. Unknown, my personal advice is, you are now retired and out of the snow belt, living in the sunshine, go enjoy your life just as much as you can, every minute you can, and stop worrying about all this stuff. I highly doubt at your age, you are going to be affected by it in any way.
      Go Live.

  6. Also I don't know how to get rid of the unknown part.

  7. Where it says "Comment as:" under the comment text box, click the down arrow and it will say select profile. Select Name/Profile, and put your name in the name box, and leave the URL box empty then click continue.
    Then write you comments and click publish.

  8. The wheat and the tares the weeds are spread over the wheat growing. Up together reconciled at maturity. Can you see the tare tory now?

    1. dennis, the tares are going to be gathered up and burned. Period. Finally their day is over with. Tares are never gonna get reconciled.
      I grew up on a farm, so I know that tares look like wheat, but as a child we used to squish them and instead of hard little grains of wheat in that shaft, it would puff into dust. This means that tares are empty of any value; worthless, good for nothing at all except to appear as fake wheat. So you see there is nothing about tares to be reconciled.

  9. Question: If I, born on the land of New York, never willingly or knowingly elected to become a Citizen of the U.S. Corporation, than why do I have to do all the paperwork to opt out of their system? Why can't I just present my birth certificate to the land recorder in my state in order to prove I'm an American National? Not a U.S. Citizen required to obey "their" laws and pay "their" taxes?

    1. Lee, because your paperwork in your life, you agreed with your own signature to U.S. CITIZENSHIP. when? driver's license, bank accounts, ss#, income tax forms, etc....! You now have to make a recording on and for the record with the CORPORATIONS [IRS, STATE DEPT OF REVENUE, HIGHWAY DEPTS] that you have re-established your true nationality. Your nationality is assumed to be U.S. CITIZENSHIP. IT'S UP TO YOU TO CHANGE THE RECORDS. You must change your status from PRIVATE! Anna's forms do it the only means? NO! But, it gets the exculpatory evidence into the right hands. Its all about changing the record and getting exculpatory evidence in that record, and you are now taking responsibility for your own records! READ THE 1976 PRIVACY ACT...USE IT RELIGIOUSLY!

    2. When we did all that stuff, there was NO FULL DISCLOSURE, therefore I consider it fraud, and even according to the law, when there is a failure of full disclosure it is fraud. Diff words but means the same thing.
      In fact none of us ever even knew that our gov was a 'corporation' right there we did not have full disclosure. As far as I am concerned, they can take their entire Fraud Game and shove it where the sun doesnt shine.

      Just about everything today is Fraud; so anyone who thinks I am going to do paperwork on every little shitty bit of their fraud, is nuts. Who wants to spend their life 'undoing fraud' upon our Self??
      Mortgages are fraud; and you see how The People have had little to zero success in fighting that crap. Bottom line, I just am not going to spend my life Fighting.

    3. ABBY BEFORE YOU GO you know what a NARCISSIST is? I was married to one for 14 years, so I do know. ABBY you are a narcissist? You make everything about you...truth is...nothing is about you! No one cares what you think. Most people just want you gone! You had nothing but are determined to flaunt your EGOTISM. Your actions are nauseating! I ignore you totally until you post your ridiculous comments on my posts. Abby please ignore my posts, when I post, because nothing you post matters to me. Your postings are all such malarkey. Lee, regardless of what Abby THINKS...she's must take your copyrights and trademarks back for those who are currently using them by your signature.

    4. Hmmmm. Just a thought in general...

      There are many things in life growing up, that we humans really hate to do. Because, our "moms " use to be responsible for doing those tasks. There were guy jobs and girl jobs(something most milenials got short changed on due to the changes in most family structures with the invention of new ideas and fancy merchadice). Women taking on Jobs along with men.
      Everything can be difficult or easy.
      Some people would rather bitch and moan(not speaking of anyone in particular, because so many of us are guilty of it at one time or another) about something than just do it.
      Some people like to work "HARD"(work ethic or guilt ethic??)
      I have always said"I prefer to work efficiently and do the task once expending the least effort possible. Measure once,cut twice.
      What's my point?
      Everything in life is a matter of your "inner perspectitive". of the things I and many I have dealt with in life, was the hated washing of dishes. (anyone who ever had roommates knows what I mean)prefering(before dish washers) to just put them in the sink and bitch about it when days later they are forced to deal with it. You can all relate to that I am sure.
      How did "I" get passed that delema? (even though in a family of seven foster boys where we all were expected to learn to do it)
      I met a simple man in a bar, having a drink who shared with me a small story on perspective when I was young...about dishes.

      He said he used to look at the sink and cuss because he had to wash his. Till, one day he noticed that the dishes seemed to be staring at him...asking him,
      "Wash me!"
      He never had a problem again.
      Little stuff like that has a tendency to stick with you
      once you hear it. And neither did I.
      Lol and we thought we had problems, compare that to today.


    5. I am thinking of taking up story writing....seems fulfilling. Such a better use of time than attack and attack back antics... it gets old and redundant. And doesn't serve anybody.πŸ™„πŸ’–

    6. Oh CJ shut up. I said nothing derogatory to You and I have just as much right to my opinion as You do. You are not of any special importance, and You sure are not my boss. In fact You are so johnny-one-note and so wrapped up in One thing, that You don't know how to do anything else.
      Your real problem is that You can't stand anyone to disagree with You. So who is full of themSELVES around here; its You.
      You know very well what I posted IS every bit the Truth; maybe you are the one who needs to come off your highhorse and admit .....The Truth isn't always gonna line up with You.

      So CJ, go stuff it, before I decide not to be so nice to you.

    7. Abby threatens to unleast her not 'nice' side on CJπŸ˜‚

      Her good ole ChrπŸ•‡stπŸ•‡an hex?☇πŸ€•πŸ˜…πŸŽƒ

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    9. TO ALL THINKERS ON THIS BLOG, Sorry Abby this excludes you:
      This is what is going to happen to you in court, PRETEND I AM THE JUDGE: I am going to look at your PUBLIC RECORD, I am going to listen to all your replies and your actions in court, that are in agreement with that PUBLIC RECORD, I am going to fail to see any exculpatory evidence or witnesses to the contrary to the fact you are a U.S. CITIZEN, I will let you blah, blah, blah for a moment or until my head begins hurting by your ignorance and then I am either going to throw you in jail or fine the crap out of you, for being such an imbecile. If Abby, appeared in my court and began with her fraud crap....I would lock her up and throw away the key and it would be LEGAL for me to do so and she wouldn't have the VERY FIRST STAND defend herself. SHE COULD YELL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS AND FRAUD AND CORRUPTION UNTIL SHE TURNED BLUE AND DIED FROM THE LACK OF OXYGEN and it wouldn't make one difference to me. WHY? Because when you are within my jurisdiction....YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS! The question remains for ABBY and anyone else willing to follow her BLATANT DISREGARD OF TRUTH.....How did I get jurisdiction over you? Here's another question....When you are within my JURISDICTION....where are you pursuant to BOTH law and legal? PS. HOW'S THAT FOR TRUTH LINING UP WITH ME, ABBY? Abby, I don't look for truth to line up with anyone...what an idiotic comment and what the heck does it mean? Duh? Truth is truth and it doesn't matter who brings it forward. The great thing is that people are taught the truth....I WOULD THAT YOU WOULD GET ON BOARD WITH THAT TRUTH! But, none the less....LIGHT HAS COME INTO THE WORLD AND YOU LOVE THE DARKNESS MORE! And I have told you before, if you don't want me to rip you imbecilic comments apart, then stay away from my posts! Ignore me, because I certainly don't have any problem or issue ignoring you!

    10. Abby, you know wherever the Light went....the scribes and pharisees [religious leaders, thieve, hypocrites] followed him and tried to stop him from speaking truth and delivering light to the people. Abby, you know, you are forever working to stop truth [LIGHT] from coming to the People. You work so diligently to get them to believe your religiousity! Hey, act just like the scribes and pharisees. WOW! Abby, want to know the difference between you and I? I want people to find truth NOT MY BELIEFS, OPINIONS AND VIEWPOINTS! Have a great day Abby!

    11. Robert Allen, love your story....YES! SUCH IS LIFE! LET THERE BE LIGHT! 'LET' is a MEGA SIZED word!'

    12. It has become quite obvious by now that the real reason some folks try to push everyone to ''do their paperwork'' is because those folks want to establish a new Right Government, and it takes folks who have done their 'papers' to be qualified for their Continental Congress.

      That is the real reason for the 'Big Push' - but those who are struggling and confused about doing their papers, and having many questions - which nobody seems to answer them - are being led to think it will give them freedom.

      We've even seen a few in her all excited saying they finally completed all their paperwork and exclaiming 'Now Im Free''.
      I kept saying that just recording papers is only a small part of gaining Freedom. Finally, Anna came out and admitted the same thing. That it then took knowing how to use them. To which I said I really do not think most folks are capable of standing up to judges and using their papers successfully. And I further stated that there would need to be Law Counselors the People can hire if they are ever faced with Court.

      All of that is The Truth. There is noone that can refute that I don't care who you are. Those that get hauled into court, we have all seen are those that appear to have not gone past the 10th grade. Because that is who the police make it a point to nab. That is just how our society is today. Anyone who doesn't believe that, go sit in court and watch who the 'accused'' are.

      Ive also said numerous times, anyone who wants to record all their papers can feel free to do so. However, I look far past all that, and I don't even object to a Continental Congress being successfully established.
      But I then think further yet, and if they get rid of some junk, and make some New Laws, WHO is going to acknowledge ANY of what they do?
      WHO? We know that those in power will never give up their seats, will never move over and let anyone or anything remove them and take over with what is Right. So if anyone can tell me just exactly HOW they intend to get rid of all the thousands of skunks in power, and how 'You" think you are going to replace them, then I will be happy to hear it.

      THIS is the Truth. And all Truth is Light. All Truth is not pretty, nor is it always palatable.

      In fact, for anyone who really thinks a Rightful Continental Congress is going to be of real effect and be obeyed - watch what happens when Tuesday comes and these snowflake communist liberal anti-american demorats get replaced in D.C. and elsewhere.
      Watch how they react to just that loss of position, all across the country. Then tell me how they will react to a continental congress. Yes, a normal common sense person ought to be thrilled at getting a Right and True government, but we know the majority of our population has NO common sense.

      So it is NOT about this rather small Group doing what is Right and Good - it hinges on how such a majority of our population has NO appreciation for what is Right and Good. They dont even have any common sense.

      And THAT is where the real problem lies. And ''they' have already dug the rabbit hole so deep, it is now like a tornado struck a yarn warehouse; there is no one who can untangle all the strings and put it back together again. That is about the size of things.
      This should have been 20 years ago. Now I see it as being out of hand. And like Ive said, folks are looking for all the right things, in all the wrong places.
      So be it.

    13. Abby, I can refute you:
      1.) No one can set you free. YOU ALREADY ARE FREE, if you just use your freedom. There is absolutely no law that takes authority or power over you, unless you give your WILLING CONSENT BY YOUR SIGNATURE ON THEIR CORPORATE CONTRACTS. Now, the real issue is YOU! Because you are brain washed to believe THEM, you think you need to BE MADE FREE! THAT IS 'THE' LIE! That is the B/S and you have bought the whole pie? However there are others like me, who know the truth and are doing everything to cut through the B/S you and them continue to propagate. So right now, with my big B/S SHOVEL REMOVER let me say: NO MAN OR WOMAN IS RULED, LEGISLATED OR REGULATED BY ANY LAW OF THE U.S. THEY DO NOT LEGISLATE, REGULATE OR RULE MEN OR WOMEN, THEY REGULATION CORPORATE ENTITIES. That is truth. SO NO ONE IS GOING TO FREE YOU, JUST STOP WILLING CONSENTING TO BE GOVERNERED! Stop FREELY and [wait for it...because what's next is mega] WITHOUT 'RESERVATION' give your signature away...for free, no stipulations, just straight out compliance to waive your rights! No one can free anyone who refuses to use their own freedom and their own rights of freedom. Abby you refuse to use your own freedom, because you think you know it all and the world is ending so what is the point?
      2.) Nobody wants you to do any paperwork for them. They want you to do your paperwork, to take your name out of the system and out of the control of the very ones, you personally want to serve. If you want to serve and be a subject, than that is your choice Abby. I am truly beginning to see you and Ucadia are partners in the B/S shills category.
      3.) Oh and how are the People to make new laws...if they don't ASSEMBLE? Really? It takes the People assembled to decide what the People want to do...but of course, then you come along and throw your trash on this forum, giving all you crap about People not assembling. The RIGHT TO ASSEMBLE...MUST BE EXERCISED BY THE PEOPLE...BUT YOU, DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO STOP THAT FROM HAPPENING!
      4.) Lastly, only those wanting to remain subject/slaves would want to offer any of your ludicrous comments to this forum. What you think about a Continental Congress or a Jural Assembly does not matter to the People who want to live free. You by your insanity will not be able to stop the light from going forth.
      5.) Abby, you live in darkness and you do everything you can to prevent the light of freedom from going forth. I am here to tell can't stop it. The People are waking up and for all your postings they are walking away from you and your B/S CRAP!
      6.) I am beginning to believe you are nothing more than a govt shill. Because you use the exact same tactics of spreading govt B/S so thick, the people don't know what to believe. Your game is try to keep the people dumbed down, so they can't see the truth. The extreme nausea it causes you do it in the NAME OF CHRIST JESUS! You propagate darkness and you say it is his light. I makes me what to vomit. He has no fellowship with those who choose to stay in the darkness and propagate darkness. And the govt propaganda you vomit out, is just that, extreme darkness.
      7.) Your falsehoods are anything else?


  10. I was out the other evening at a Kava bar. It was Mike night.
    This one girl sang and was absolutely beyond amazing...I would have bought her CD's had she had any, that voice!
    Well I was feeling inspired and decided to do a bucket list check off. First time stand up comedy. I have plenty of life experience to draw from and I am always spreading humor where it is deficient.

    The first ten minutes went quite one looked miserable. So I thought I would hand over the Mike till I heard the clapping...thought let's do a little more and everyone was like yeah. Then I guess the spontaneousness started to rapidly go south... mostly from my effort of trying too hard🀣the faces were actually wincing...I was missing my timing. I wrapped it up and thanked everyone for the experience. Knowing next time writing them down before hand was the wise option. Next time. There is so much life to enjoy...sad that we allow ourselves to get wrapped up in our head over things we have no "real" control over,when we have real existing reality and choices all around us for now.😏

    1. ROBERT ALLEN...LIFE? IT'S EVERYWHERE! If we fulfill our purpose and get out of the way of other people fulfilling theirs! I like your story. In SIGHT-full and true!

  11. Hey, why not start a conversation about PUBLIC and PRIVATE RECORDS? Hey do you know the difference between RIGHTS SECURED BY THE CONSTITUTION and CIVIL/HUMAN RIGHTS? Who has SECURED OR UNALIENABLE RIGHTS? Did you know in COURT you only have civil/human rights if you are a U.S. CITIZEN? WHAT did the SUPREME COURT SAY about RIGHT SECURED in the MIRANDA VS. ARIZONA ruling? How come they didn't say the same thing about civil/human rights? ARE YOU A HUMAN OR CIVIL[IAN](NON-MILITARY)? What does your PUBLIC OR PRIVATE RECORD SHOW? Who has access to your RECORD? How did they get access to it? there's some questions? woo-woo!

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    2. Ps. for anyone who wants to think real deep about PRIVATE RECORDS and ACCESS TO THEM...maybe you would want to read....the bill of rights...about privacy and warrants and probable cause and such! And then maybe you would want to read in this court case, I have posted on this forum several times: Hale v. Henkel, 201 U.S. 43 (1906). I mean if you THINK about might find some STANDING in court! I mean I'm only saying! PRIVACY OF THE 'PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL' IS A MEGA THING....WOULDN'T YOU AGREE! Does any exculpatory evidence exist of you being a PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL? Does any exculpatory evidence exist of you being a PUBLIC PERSON/PUBLIC INDIVIDUAL? Assumptions? YEAH! SO WHAT? Let the RECORD SHOW! I mean as a PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL, your rights [secured and unalienable] would not be null and void, correct?

  12. C.Johnson - I am interested to KNOW - I recorded Basic Forms, but was informed right away that the Record will not be searchable online ... therefore, I am not sore what the record itself is doing for me? I understand the importance of it, but don' t really understand what the fact that it is "recorded" in some Miscellaneous files can/do for me? So I was looking for different recorder who will record it as searchable online (even though I am not sure if it does anything? - it' s searchable, but will a judge search it???) - so I send an extension of the basic Forms (Notice of the Claim for the Life, per Anna, it states right under the title of it- Action: Claim and Conveyance, per Anna von Reitz), to different recorder - they sent it back to me (stating that the document has no title (?) and with it they sent THEIR paper, when I send it back so they know what to do with it - their paper say it is NO-CONVEYANCE!- to them) - I was/I am very confused 1. not only don't know again what it really does for me to record it even if it would be searchable online 2. I am claiming Conveyance, they record it as No-conveyance? It was my understanding that their job is to RECORD not change Conveyance to No-Conveyance...Could you shed some light to it? I would mostly appreciate it!

    1. Daga Lapis ok think about a RECORDING...what is it? See everyone wants to do some procedure to set themselves free. You can not do some procedure to set yourself free. You can come out of the system by doing that paperwork. That's it! How do you come out of the system by doing that paperwork...1.) The record that already take it back 2.) The record that already exists you change to private...from public. 3.) The record that already exists you bring in under the BILL OF RIGHTS AND THE RIGHT TO PRIVACY...WARRANT AND PROBABLE CAUSE THING...THINK ABOUT IT 4.) Will they take your RECORD out of their normal for all eyes only betcha! What are you conveying? Think? YOUR NAMES...WHO ARE YOU CONVEYING THEM TO? out of the hands of the STATE...BACK TO YOUR OWN PRIVATE CONTROL! Right now, YOUR NAMES are not in your control at all! They are public and basically anyone can use them. HERE AGAIN IS AN EXAMPLE: do you get credit card offers? WHERE ARE THEY GETTING YOUR INFO? THINK! Go to any online location public records website...they have the last day you tied your shoes or changed your underwear! How did they get that info? Because the govt...who is in control of your....PUBLIC RECORDS....has control and says they can have it...that's how! Ever been summoned to court for a traffic ticket? Did they have a warrant based upon probable cause? Yet they have your records? How did they get your records? BECAUSE THEY ARE PUBLIC AND IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN! HOW DID THE POLICE OFFICER CALL IN AND GET YOUR INFO..DID HE HAVE A WARRANT BASED ON PROBABLE CAUSE. THINK?
      A PRIVATE MAN OR WOMAN...IS NOT A CORPORATE IDENTITY. MEN AND WOMEN are not corporations and are private pursuant to the system. Yet your name as Men and Women are not PRIVATE, THEY ARE TREATED AS CORPORATE ACCOUNT RECORDS...BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE PUBLIC. Men and women have rights...GET IT! Rights trump everything....PEOPLE YOUR RIGHTS ARE NOT NULL AND VOID....YOUR SIMPLY DON'T USE THEM... YOU MAKE TERRIBLE CONTRACTS...YOU'VE NEVER READ THE CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS, YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YOU ARE MEN AND WOMEN...THINK, THINK, THINK! Why do the People continue to worry about what the freaking administrators do or don't do....who gives a rip. I AM A WOMAN...WITH ALL RIGHTS RESERVED AND SECURED BY THE CONSTITUTION AND MY RIGHTS SUSPEND THEIR ACTIONS....UNLESS I LISTEN TO THEIR BS. Everything that comes out of their MOUTHS is B/S...its public policy...when in the heck did public policy become law? Convey your names back to yourself and take control of your own records...make them private and take them completely out of the PUBLIC ARENA. Are there any men and women out there..or am I only talking to U.S. CITIZEN SLAVES?

    MEN and WOMEN are exempt from the system. MEN and WOMEN have rights that cannot be taken away by any other source. If any other source violations the rights of MEN and WOMEN and cause those MEN or WOMEN: HARM OR INJURY then the source is liable for damages [civil and criminal]. GET THIS TRUTH! Then read below...

    1. The govt and its officials are a source. This source CAN NOT legislate, rule or regulate MEN or WOMEN! Why? Because MEN and WOMEN are not SUBJECTS to the laws of MEN or WOMEN. They were created by God and are subject to HIS LAWS ONLY! That law is the COMMON LAW of MEN and WOMEN. That law says: we are all created equal!So if we are created equal, then what other Men or Women can rule us? Those to whom we willingly consent to waive our RIGHT to govern OUR self and give them JURISDICTION over said us and said right! GET THIS TRUTH! Then read below...

    2. No other MAN or WOMEN can take our right by threat, coercion or duress. If they do, they have caused us harm and injury! They become liable for damages! So how did the govt. and its officials get around dealing with MEN and WOMEN? They created something! What is the something they created? U.S. CITIZENS! They could not legislate, regulate or rule anything but something of their own creation! They did not create MEN and WOMEN, so they created something outside MEN and WOMEN. get this truth! THEN READ BELOW...

    3. Now, this thing they created known as the U.S. CITIZEN was created on paper, they gave it a name...yours... MISCONSTRUCTED! All law... is fraud! They gave it titles like owner, operator, trustee, banker, agent, principal, employee, employer. They had to have somewhere to store info about this U.S. CITIZEN [that is all the paper trail] and they made it public for all their corporate subsidiaries to be able to access it. But, that PAPER...RECORDS! It is not a man nor is it a woman. IT HAS NO RIGHTS OUTSIDE OF THEIR LEGISLATION, REGULATIONS AND RULES. IT IS NOT A REAL PERSON...IT IS NOT A REAL MAN OR WOMAN! If you get this, then read below!

    4. So they have this record..this paper trail and they use it to make your think it is you...the real man or woman! But, it is not you! It is a corporate identity, they created for their own purposes to legislate, regulate and rule. Yet every time you go to court, you say: I'M HERE! WHOSE HERE? They called the name of the paper record...the public whose here? IF YOU GET THIS, THEN READ BELOW...

    5. They have a RECORD....A U.S. CITIZEN...A FICTITIOUS THING...ON PAPER ONLY and you answer you are here! WOW! So its the RECORD...the PUBLIC RECORD...they are controlling...because every time you sign your name on PAPER...your created a bigger PUBLIC RECORD for them to use! Now, what if you made your RECORD PRIVATE? What would happen to that RECORD? You are not destroying the are moving it! Where are you moving it? Out of one jurisdiction: Public...into PRIVATE jurisdiction. This is why Anna's forms! get this? then read below...

    6. Where is PRIVATE JURISDICTION? Ever heard of the Constitution and Bill of Rights? The record is yours! You are the authority over it only if you take it back to yourself! Do they want you to do this? HECK NO! Why? Because they lose control! Can they stop you? HECK NO! You are a MAN or WOMAN, what law can they use to stop you from exercising your right to your own RECORDS? Doesn't the bill of rights secure your right to your own privacy as a MAN or WOMAN? Now, they can't stop you, but they can send you your paperwork back, they can refuse to take it, they can pull all kinds of shenanigans! SO WHAT! You are a MAN or WOMAN, where do they get JURISDICTION OVER YOU? The PREAMBLE of the SUPREME LAW of the are their boss, if they are in the Public as a govt official! YOU ARE THE BOSS...MEN AND WOMEN...GET THAT! MEN and WOMEN...your rights trump their crappola! THE LAW SUPPORTS YOU because it excludes you from it! I only have one question: I AM WOMAN....HOW IN THE HECK DID YOU GET JURISDICTION OVER ME? If you get this...then read below!

    7. Get yourself a pocket Constitution...ask a public official if that document is null and void? Then ask them, what about my rights as SECURED BY THE Constitution and Bill of Rights, are they null and void? Then read Miranda vs Arizona "Where rights are secured by the Constitution there can be no legislation or rulemaking to abrogate them! WHAT?????? Then tell me, what the public official says when confronted with the Supreme Law of the Land? The Constitution, don't leave home without it!

    8. C. Johnson - thank you! I appreciate all your words: ...4.) Will they take your RECORD out of their normal for all eyes only betcha! - I recorded mine in a small county where I even don't live, they will remove it from "their system" - really? or do I have to inform all I can think of including IRS? Also, someone kind from this group send me some information that Universal Postal Union accepts our autographs in gold or purple and to AVOID red ! All the records I recorded up to now I autographed in red = am I putting myself in danger ? (like on FBI list or something?)

    9. Dage Lapis, read the 1976 privacy act, read the bill of rights what does it say about privacy. When they mean PUBLIC...they mean PUBLIC. When they MEAN PRIVATE...the mean PRIVATE. Think what have I told you a record is? where are those records stored? based on those two questions, how would you define: SYSTEM? is there only one system? or are there many systems? Think NSA...they have a system! What is the NSA SYSTEM USED FOR? Is the IRS and the NSA the same system? What system are your public records in and do you want them public in that system? The rules for operating those systems...who makes them up? Are rules and regulations [administration] laws? Or are rules and regulations only public policy..made by administrators? Do administrators have any authority from the Constitution to make laws? Per the Constitution who has the right to legislate? So do administrators have authority over MEN or WOMEN [with rights secured by the Constitution]? isn't a secured right...the right to privacy? doesn't the 1976 privacy act support that right? do the administrators with their public policy have a right to override acts of congress?
      2.) the color ink? GOOGLE THIS: blue ink for signatures ...WHAT DID YOU FIND AFTER YOU RESEARCH THE BLUE INK THING? Come back and post your findings to help others know which ink!
      LASTLY IF YOU WANT ME TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO DO ABOUT YOUR PUBLIC RECORDS...I CAN'T DO THAT. I DON'T KNOW YOU AND I WON'T TELL YOU HOW YOU SHOULD LIVE YOUR LIFE. I told you what public records are, I told you where they are located, I told you how they are used, I told you, you have the right to leave them public or make them private, I told you public is public and private is private, I told you public is controlled by them and private is controlled by your signature, now what you do with the info I have told you, is for you to decide. The records are yours, do whatever you want to do or need to do for your own life.
      I do not teach people procedures. Again, I teach what happened, what is happening and what can happen in the future. The future is for you to decide. It is your life...again: make great contracts and live free! THINK and don't live your life haphazardly, like you have done in the past, plan, implement, make sound informed decisions for your future. Today, take another road, seek, knock, ask. OWN YOUR FREEDOM...IT'S YOURS AND YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN DO ANYTHING WITH IT AND SECURE IT TO YOURSELF AND YOUR POSTERITY! PS. Daga, you are already there....let it be...let the light free...its time you let your fear it!

  14. Anna, 8 U.S.C. §1401 Makes one a U.S/statutory citizen, not the 14th amendment!
    There are TWO main LEGAL contexts
    – Relates to the states of the Union and EXCLUDES
    federal territory and legislative jurisdiction of
    Congress over SOVEREIGN states of the Union
    – Defines “United States” as states of the Union
    – Relates to federal territory and EXCLUDES states of
    the Union.
    – Defines “United States” as federal territory not
    within any state of the Union
    • A CONSTITUTIONAL “citizen of the United
    States” is a STATUTORY “non-resident”.
    They are NOT the same CONTEXTS!
    – Referenced in Fourteenth Amendment, Section 1
    U.S. Constitution:
    Fourteenth Amendment
    Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States[***] and subject to THE [POLITICAL AND NOT LEGISLATIVE] jurisdiction thereof, are [CONSTITUTIONAL] citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
    – Called a “citizen of the United States”
    – Defined in 8 U.S.C. §1401.
    – Called a “national and citizen of the United States** at birth” in Title 8 of
    the U.S. Code.
    – ALSO called an “American Citizen” or “citizen of the United States” by
    the federal courts.
    – THIS is the ONLY type of “citizen” mentioned in the Internal Revenue Code
    26 C.F.R. §1.1-1 Income tax on individuals
    (c ) Who is a citizen.
    Every person born or naturalized in the [federal] United States and subject to ITS
    [NATIONAL GOVERNMENT’S LEGISLATIVE] jurisdiction is a [STATUTORY] citizen.
    For other rules governing the acquisition of citizenship, see chapters 1 and 2 of
    title III of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. §1401-1459). "
    An 8 U.S.C. §1401 “U.S. citizen” is what I refer to as a STATUTORY “U.S. citizen”.
    • STATUTORY “U.S. citizens” are born in and domiciled within federal territories. You CANNOT be a STATUTORY “U.S. citizen” if you were born in a CONSTITUTIONAL state of the Union.
    There are Four “United States”
    In addition to the THREE geographical “United States”, the term is also used in connection with the “United States” government as a LEGAL PERSON.
    Context # 4 below is the context for most federal law, including the Internal Revenue Code. See:
    # Meaning
    1 United States Geographical Country United States
    2 United States Geographical Federal territory
    3 United States Geographical States of the Union
    4 United States Legal Government of the United States
    Text of 8 U.S.C. §1401 Nationals and citizens of the United States:
    The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
    (a) a person born in the United States], and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
    (b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;
    (c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;
    (d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;
    (e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person.

    1. From Anna:

      The first thing you have to ask yourself is-- what is being amended? In this case the corporate "Constitution" of the British Territorial United States published in 1868.

      This is NOT a "Constitutional" context relating to the States of the Union. It related specifically to the operations of a Scottish commercial corporation doing business as "The United States of America" Incorporated also chartered in 1868.

      So that is where you first go off track and make an assumption that there IS a "constitutional context" related to the States of the Union involved when there isn't one.

      The only actual Constitutiomal Context for any of these issues that arguably applied to us occurs prior to 1868 and is stated as part of the US Statutes at Large, not the unpublished US Code.

      In talking about these things you have to keep the apples and oranges straight.

      The second thing you have to ask is what is the law and what is the statute? The law is the Amendment. The USC is the statute. Bear in mind that none of these Federal Codes are published in the Federal Register.

      These facts taken together add up to these being corporate laws and statutes that actually have nothing to do with us.

      And never did have anything to do with us.

      So thanks for the lengthy dissertation on Federal Citizenship of the Territorial and Municipal sort, but don't mistake the fact that none of it applies to us absent our "willful consent"--- which we don't give.

      And all the deceit otherwise is simply deceit, which is allowed under Roman Civil Law as long as--- and only as long as-- the victim is deceived and fails to object.

    2. It's all deception....every last bit of it....but, this blog has had more light shining than any of the blogs on this forum. The deception is being fully exposed. THE LIE is being destroyed. The MEN and WOMEN of this Nation are not legislated, regulated or ruled by any of the govts. We have and are free and have always been...the People have not known it...but its time for them to wake up. So thankful for this blog and the comments that are on it. This is truth!

    3. Anna, I know that the constitution and statues has nothing to do with us. Hell, I even think the statues at large has nothing to do with us, Like a duck is a duck, a statue is a statue (and not law) and is for government, no matter how you or they try to "spin it". The Constitution, The U.S.C and all statues is for the government (employees)/public officers/residents. U.S citizens are considered to be government public officers without without them knowing it. If people people knew what was really going on they will never consent. I did not make the mistake of saying that any of it applies to us without our consent. I even mentioned this in my post that I titled: main points of citizenship confusion at the very end of my posting. In addition to my main points of citizen confusion post, The confusion came from the desire to destroy the
      separation between PUBLIC and PRIVATE by confusing STATUTORY and CONSTITUTIONAL citizens.
      • Here is where this confusion started:
      "Under our own systems of polity, the term 'citizen', implying the same or similar relations to the government and to society which appertain to the term, 'subject' in
      England, is familiar to all. Under either system, the term used is designed to apply to man in his individual character and to his natural capacities -- to a being or agent [PUBLIC OFFICER!] possessing social and political rights and sustaining social, political, and
      moral obligations. It is in this acceptation only, therefore, that the term 'citizen', in the
      article of the Constitution, can be received and understood. When distributing the judicial
      power, that article extends it to controversies between 'citizens' of different states. This must mean the natural physical beings composing those separate communities, and can
      by no violence of interpretation be made to signify artificial, incorporeal, theoretical, and
      invisible creations. A corporation, therefore, being not a natural person, but a mere creature of the mind, invisible and intangible, cannot be a citizen of a state, or of the United States, and cannot fall within the terms or the power of the above mentioned article, and can therefore neither plead nor be impleaded in the courts of the United States.“
      [. . .]
      These principles are always traceable to a wise and deeply founded experience; they are
      therefore ever consentaneous and in harmony with themselves and with reason, and whenever abandoned as guides to the judicial course, the aberration must lead to bewildering uncertainty and confusion.”
      [Rundle v. Delaware & Raritan Canal Company, 55 U.S. 80, 99 (1852) from dissenting opinion by Justice Daniel]

      • In REAL ESTATE, the ONLY
      THREE things that matter are:
      – LOCATION
      – LOCATION
      – LOCATION
      • In LAW, the THREE things that
      matter in deducing the scope of a
      statute are:
      – CONTEXT
      – CONTEXT
      – CONTEXT

      I still believe that there are 2 main legal contexts-constitutional and statutory. In my post, I quoted Rogers v Bellei, 401 U.S 815 (1971) that proves this. I Would not be surprised if the government and the powers that be want conspiracy theorists to believe there is no constitutional context, for their own self serving reasons/interests!

    4. Michael, I have been teaching the People what has been done by laws. We have been given 3 identities. One is found within the pre-amble...the People..we the people. Existed with all rights intact prior to the Constitution. Who created the Constitution as a means to create a govt to protect and defend those UNALIENABLE..CREATOR GIVEN RIGHTS. That was the only reason for the Constitution..TO PROTECT THE UNALIENABLE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE. ANY VIOLATION OF THOSE RIGHTS IS A VIOLATION OF THE CONSTITUTION AS A FAILURE TO PROTECT AND DEFEND. THESE RIGHTS ARE NOT ONLY UNALIENABLE BUT ARE SECURED BY THE CONSTITUTION.
      The second identity is the one created by the BILL OF RIGHTS. The Bill of rights, gave government some authority over the rights of the People and these are the SECURED RIGHTS of all NATIONALS, BUT ARE NOT UNALIENABLE. These rights ARE SECURED by the Constitution to Nationals.
      Then comes the 3rd identity, the 14th Amendment, citizen, slave, subject of and fully to the United States and this citizen only has rights [benefit/privileges of citizenship of the U.S.] CIVIL/HUMAN. This citizen has only what the govt gives them.
      But, the first identity, is the identity of men, women or children [not to be confused with male, female or fetus]. These PEOPLE [non-person] are not human or natural [of the Earth] they are living souls, created in the image and likeness of the creator of Nature and are sovereigns to the natural governments. These sovereign are to have dominion, according to supreme universal law, over all the Earth. These men, women and children are not entities created by man-made laws, but are created by God. It is that identity, that is without and Stands without the laws of man! He/she is ruled by God and God only! This is the way it is, this is how law is composed and this is what they..the officials of the system which it is time the people awake! MEN AND WOMEN AND CHILDREN, HAVE NO OTHER MAN OR WOMAN WHO IS THEIR AUTHORITY UNLESS THEY WILLINGLY WITHOUT DURESS, COERCION OR THREAT 'GOOD FAITH' GIVE CONSENT TO BE GOVERNED!

    5. ps. I have posted this court ruling many times on this forum: Hale v. Henkel, 201 U.S. 43 (1906) "There is a clear distinction between an individual and a corporation, and the latter, being a creature of the State, has not the constitutional right to refuse to submit its books and papers for an examination at the suit of the State.” "The individual may stand upon his constitutional rights as a citizen.'
      There is a definite distinction between private and public and individuals and corporations/corporate entities [public persons]. But, the People must deliver themselves back to their true STANDING and STATUS or not! The People want someone to free them, but refuse to see they have both the authority and power to free themselves and that no one else CAN DO IT FOR THEM!

    6. C. Johnson, an “individual”, as defined in 5 U.S.C. §552a(a)(2), which is a person with a domicile in the “United States”, which is geographically defined as the District of Columbia in 26 U.S.C. §7701(a)(9) and (a)(10).

    7. Michael, yes and no! Individual is both a word and a term. When they use it as a term you are correct. But, we the People have the right to use it as a word. Individual is part of the English language. They have to speak my language, I do not have to speak there's. Individual in common law is a word, common law is the supreme law of the land. It's all in our we take our stand!

    8. C. Johnson, The constitution does not make anyone a constitutional citizen per say, constitutional citizen is a descriptive term to remove any confusion between constitutional and statutory and private and public. yes people had God given rights before the constitution. Before the constitution there was the declaration of independence and the articles of confederation (the articles of confederation was never repealed because the government still publishes the articles of confederation along with the constitution and the declaration of independence in the United states statues at large.) The constitution, articles of confederation and the declaration of independence are all pieces of the same puzzle that needs to be put together to make the whole puzzle.

    9. Michael, yes and no! If we are talking truth, you are right, absolutely. If you are talking the illusion, which everyone is living within, then the answer is no! Michael, what you said is truth, but IN THE SYSTEM, they have claimed and are enforcing something totally different. But, you are right in exposing the lies. That's why I applaud you. I personally, see absolutely not citizens within this NATION, nor do I see any Nationals, I see men, women and children, who are free of it all! Most people can not see that right now, so what do we continue to do? use our big pin to continue to pop the bubbles.

    10. C. Johnson, I do get what you are saying, but in (thier) court of law, you have to use their statutory definitions. If you used the word individual in court, the judge will throw the book at you.

    11. Oh, I see what you mean now. You mean a stateless/governmentless man, woman or child. Sounds good to me! :)

    12. Michael exactly! Where did the State find its beginnings? How does the State survive? Power is with the ones who created it and power from those ones, cause it to survive! but, in truth, what State is there...really?

    13. πŸ–’πŸ’˜πŸ’₯☇πŸ’›

  15. IMPORTANT things to note about the language used in 8 U.S.C. 1401:
    – “United State” used is the STATUTORY meaning.
    – “United States” used EXCLUDES the CONSTITUTIONAL meaning.
    – The phrase “subject to THE jurisdiction of the United States” LOOKS the same as that in the Fourteenth Amendment. Is NOT the same because it uses a DIFFERENT “United States” that includes ONLY federal territory. CANNOT mean someone in a state of the Union, because Congress has NO civil legislative jurisdiction there.
    Rogers v. Bellei, 401 U.S. 815 (1971):
    “The Court today holds that the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment has no application to Bellei [an 8 U.S.C. §1401(b) STATUTORY “citizen of the United States”]. [. . .] While conceding that Bellei is an American citizen, the majority states: 'He simply is not a Fourteenth-Amendment-first-sentence citizen.' Therefore, the majority reasons, the congressional revocation of his citizenship is not barred by the Constitution. I cannot accept the Court's conclusion that the Fourteenth Amendment protects the citizenship of some Americans and not others. [. . .]
    The Court today puts aside the Fourteenth Amendment as a standard by which to measure congressional action with respect to citizenship, and substitutes in its place the majority's own vague notions of 'fairness.' The majority takes a new step with the recurring theme that the test of constitutionality is the Court's own view of what is 'fair, reasonable, and right.' Despite the concession that Bellei was admittedly an American citizen, and despite the holding in Afroyim that the Fourteenth Amendment has put citizenship, once conferred, beyond the power of Congress to revoke, the majority today upholds the revocation of Bellei's citizenship on the ground that the congressional action was not 'irrational or arbitrary or unfair.' The majority applies the 'shock-the-conscience' test to uphold, rather than strike, a federal statute. It is a dangerous concept of constitutional law that allows the majority to conclude that, because it cannot say the statute is 'irrational or arbitrary or unfair,' the statute must be constitutional.
    Why Congress has NO legislative jurisdiction in a state of the Union:
    28 U.S.C. §3112
    Carter v. Carter Coal Co., 298 U.S. 238, 56 S.Ct. 855 (1936)
    "It is no longer open to question that the general government, unlike the states, Hammer v. Dagenhart, 247 U.S. 251, 275 , 38 S.Ct. 529, 3 A.L.R. 649,
    Ann.Cas.1918E 724, possesses no inherent power in respect of the internal affairs of the states; and emphatically not with regard to legislation."
    The jurisdiction that Congress exercises over franchises (e.g.
    Social Security, Income Tax, etc) within states of the Union is NOT AUTHORIZED by the Constitution

  16. – But very different considerations apply to the internal commerce or domestic trade of the States. Over this commerce and trade Congress has no power of regulation nor any direct control. This power belongs exclusively to the States. No interference by Congress with the business of citizens transacted within a State is warranted by the Constitution, except such as is strictly incidental to the exercise of powers clearly granted to the legislature. The power to authorize a business within a State is plainly repugnant to the exclusive power of the State over the same subject. It is true that the power of Congress to tax is a very extensive power. It is given in the Constitution, with only one exception and only two qualifications. Congress cannot tax exports, and it must impose direct taxes by the rule of apportionment, and indirect taxes by the rule of uniformity. Thus limited, and thus only, it reaches every subject, and may be exercised at discretion. But, it reaches only existing subjects. Congress cannot authorize [LICENSE, using a Social Security Number] a trade or business within a State in order to tax it.”
    [License Tax Cases, 72 U.S. 462, 18 L.Ed. 497, 5 Wall. 462, 2 A.F.T.R. 2224
    (1866)]Constitutional Fourteenth Amendment “citizen of the United States”
    • “United States” defined as states of the Union and excluding
    federal territory, like the rest of the USA Constitution
    • Definition:
    "The 1st section of the 14th article [Fourteenth Amendment], to which our attention is more specifically invited, opens with a definition of citizenship—not only citizenship of the United States[***], but citizenship of the states. No such definition was previously found in the Constitution, nor had any attempt been made to define it by act of Congress. It had been the occasion of much discussion in the courts, by the executive departments and in the public journals. It had been said by eminent judges that no man was a citizen of the United States except as he was a citizen of one of the states composing the Union. Those therefore, who had been born and resided always in the District of Columbia or in the territories, though within the United States, were not citizens [within the Constitution].“
    [Slaughter-House Cases, 83 U.S. (16 Wall.) 36, 21 L.Ed. 394 (1873)]
    • You CANNOT be domiciled on federal territory and BE a Fourteenth Amendment citizen at the same time!
    • EXCLUDES STATUTORY citizens per 8 U.S.C. §1401
    Can ONLY be human beings. Excludes ARTIFICIAL entities or “persons”. See:
    “Citizens of the United States within the meaning of this Amendment must be natural and not artificial persons; a corporate body is not a citizen of the United States.
    14 Insurance Co. v. New Orleans, 13 Fed.Cas. 67 (C.C.D.La. 1870). Not being citizens of the United States, corporations accordingly have been declared unable "to claim the protection of that clause of the Fourteenth Amendment which secures the privileges and immunities of citizens of the United States against abridgment or impairment by the law of a State." Orient Ins. Co. v. Daggs, 172 U.S. 557, 561 (1869) . This conclusion was in harmony with the earlier holding in Paul v. Virginia, 75 U.S. (8 Wall.) 168 (1869), to the effect that corporations were not within the scope of the privileges and immunities clause of state citizenship set out in Article IV, Sec. 2. See also Selover, Bates & Co. v. Walsh, 226 U.S. 112, 126 (1912) ; Berea College v. Kentucky, 211 U.S. 45 (1908) ; Liberty Warehouse Co. v. Tobacco Growers, 276 U.S. 71, 89 (1928) ; Grosjean v. American Press Co., 297 U.S. 233, 244 (1936) .
    [Annotated Fourteenth Amendment, Congressional Research Service.

    – It is IMPOSSIBLE for a corporation or artificial person to BE a Fourteenth Amendment person!
    “subject to THE jurisdiction of the United States” in the Fourteenth Amendment means the POLITICAL jurisdiction. Note the use of the word “THEM”, meaning the STATES and NOT the national government:
    “This section [the Fourteenth Amendment] contemplates two sources of citizenship, and two sources only,-birth and naturalization. The persons declared to be citizens are 'all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.' The evident meaning of these last words is, not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their [plural, not singular, meaning states of the Union] political jurisdiction, and owing THEM [the state of the Union] direct and immediate allegiance.”
    [U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 18 S.Ct. 456; 42 L.Ed. 890 (1898)]
    – It EXCLUDES the legislative jurisdiction of the NATIONAL government. CONSTITUTIONAL states are legislatively “foreign” and “alien” in relation to the national government:
    “The United States Government is a foreign corporation with respect to a state.”
    [N.Y. v. re Merriam 36 N.E. 505; 141 N.Y. 479; affirmed 16 S.Ct. 1073; 41 L. Ed.
    287] [underlines added] [19 Corpus Juris Secundum (C.J.S.), Corporations, §884]
    "Territories' or 'territory' as including 'state' or 'states." While the term 'territories of the' United States may, under certain circumstances, include the states of the Union, as used in the federal Constitution and in ordinary acts of congress "territory" does not include a foreign state.
    [86 C.J.S. [Corpus, Juris, Secundum, Legal Encyclopedia], Territories]
    The who in “subject to THE jurisdiction” in the Fourteenth Amendment are the People in the states of the Union and NOT those on federal territory:
    "It is impossible to construe the words 'subject to the jurisdiction thereof,' in the opening sentence, as less comprehensive than the words 'within its jurisdiction,' in the concluding sentence of the same section; or to hold that persons 'within the jurisdiction' of one of the states of the Union are not 'subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.'"[U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 18 S.Ct. 456; 42 L.Ed. 890 (1898), [emphasis added]
    STATUTORY “national and citizen of the United States at birth”
    • Context: STATUTORY
    • “United States” defined as federal territory not within any state of the Union
    • CAN include ARTIFICIAL entities and “persons”, unlike
    CONSTITUTIONAL citizens.
    • Is a civil franchise status that is a privilege Defined in:
    – 8 U.S.C. §1401 as a “national and citizen of the United States at birth”.
    – 26 U.S.C. §3121(e).
    – 26 C.F.R. §1.1-1(c).
    – CONSTITUTIONAL “Citizens”
    – CONSTITUTIONAL Fourteenth Amendment “citizens of the United States”
    Main points of citizenship confusion
    • Nationality:
    – Is a political status.
    – Is defined by the Constitution, which is a political document.
    – Is synonymous with being a “national” within statutory law.
    – Is associated with a specific COUNTRY.
    – Is a product of birth or naturalization and NOT domicile.
    • Domicile:
    – Is a CIVIL/LEGAL status.
    – Cannot be acquired WITHOUT the EXPRESS consent of the person.
    – Is not even addressed in the Constitution.
    – Is defined by civil statutory law RATHER than the Constitution.
    – Is in NO WAY connected with one’s nationality.
    – Is usually connected with the word “person”, “citizen”, “resident”, or
    “inhabitant” in statutory law.
    – Is associated with a specific COUNTY and a STATE rather than a
    – Implies one is a “SUBJECT” of a SPECIFIC MUNICIPAL but not NATIONAL government.
    • NATIONALITY and DOMICILE are NOT equivalent!

  18. • Definition:
    “nationality – That quality or character which arises from the fact of a person's belonging to a nation or state. Nationality determines the political status of the individual, especially with reference to allegiance; while domicile determines his civil [legal/statutory] status. Nationality arises either by birth or by naturalization.“
    [Black’s Law Dictionary (6th ed. 1990), p. 1025]
    • By “political status” above they mean:
    – STATUS under the CONSTITUTION and NOT statutory law.
    – Nationality and NOT domicile.
    • By “civil status” above they mean:
    – Domiciled on federal territory
    – STATUTORY “U.S. citizen” subject to CIVIL “acts of Congress” (law for
    GOVERNMENT and not PRIVATE people) per :
    » 8 U.S.C. §1401.
    » 26 U.S.C. §3121(e).
    » 26 C.F.R. §1.1-1(c ).
    – “taxpayer” per 26 U.S.C. §7701(a)(14).
    – “driver” under the vehicle code.
    So What About Citizenship IS a Threat to Freedom?
    1. PRESUME that ALL of the FOUR contexts for "United States"
    are equivalent.
    citizens are EQUIVALENT under federal law. They are NOT. A
    CONSTITUTIONAL citizen is a "non-citizen national" under
    federal law and NOT a "citizen of the United States".
    3. PRESUME that "nationality" and "domicile" are equivalent. They are NOT.
    4. Use the word "citizenship" in place of "nationality" OR "domicile", and refuse to disclose WHICH of the two they mean in EVERY context.
    5. Confuse the POLITICAL/CONSTITUTIONAL meaning of words with the CIVIL/STATUTORY context. For instance, asking on government forms whether you are a POLITICAL/CONSTITUTIONAL citizen and then FALSELY PRESUMING that you are a STATUTORY citizen under 8 U.S.C. §1401.
    6. Confuse the words "domicile" and "residence" or impute either to you without satisfying the burden of proving that you EXPRESSLY CONSENTED to it and thereby illegally kidnap your civil legal identity against your will. One can have only one "domicile" but many "residences" and BOTH require your consent.
    7. Add things or classes of things to the meaning of statutory terms that do not EXPRESSLY appear in their definitions, in violation of the rules of statutory construction.
    8. Refuse to allow the jury to read the definitions in the law and then give them a definition that is in conflict with the statutory definition. This substitutes the JUDGE’S will for what the law expressly says and thereby substitutes PUBLIC POLICY for the written law.
    9. Publish deceptive government publications that are in deliberate conflict with what the statutes define "United States" as and then tell the public that they CANNOT rely on the publication. The IRS does this with ALL of their publications and it is FRAUD.

  19. Federal Courts AGREE!
    “The expression, citizen of a state, used in the previous paragraph,is carefully omitted here [the Fourteenth Amendment]. In article 4, §2, subd. 1. of the constitution of the United States, it had been already provided. that "the citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states." The rights of citizens of the states and of citizens of the United States are each guarded by these different provisions. That these rights are separate and distinct, was held in the Slaughterhouse Cases, 16 Wall. [83 U. S.] 36, recently decided by the supreme court . The rights of citizens of the state, as such, are not under consideration in the fourteenth amendment. They stand as they did before the adoption of the fourteenth amendment, and are fully guaranteed by other provisions.”
    [U.S. v. Anthony, 24 Fed.Cas. 829, 830 (1874);

    “It would be the vainest show of learning to attempt to prove by citations of authority, that up to the adoption of the recent Amendments [the Thirteenth and Fourteenth Amendment], no claim or pretense was set up that those rights depended on the Federal government for their existence or protection, beyond the very few express limitations which the Federal Constitution imposed upon the states—such as the prohibition against ex post facto laws, bill of attainder, and laws impairing the obligation of contracts. But with the exception of these and a few other restrictions, the entire domain of the privileges and immunities of citizens of the states, as above defined, lay within the constitutional and legislative power of the states, and without that of the Federal government. Was it the purpose of the 14th Amendment, by the simple declaration that no state should make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges and immunities of citizens of the United States, to transfer the security and protection of all the civil rights which we have mentioned, from the states to the Federal government? And where it is declared that Congress shall have the power to enforce that article, was it intended to bring within the power of Congress the entire domain of civil rights heretofore belonging exclusively to the states?
    We are convinced that no such result was intended by the Congress which proposed these amendments, nor by the legislatures of the states, which ratified them. Having shown that the privileges and immunities relied on in the argument are those which belong to citizens of the states as such, and that they are left to the state governments for security and protection, and not by this article placed under the special care of the Federal government, we may hold ourselves excused from defining the privileges and immunities of citizens of the United States which no state can abridge, until some case involving those privileges may make it necessary to do so."
    [Slaughter-House Cases, 83 U.S. (16 Wall.) 36, 21 L.Ed. 394 (1873) , emphasis added]

  20. Michael...exactly...absolutely..woo-woo! I don't know where you blew in from....but its a beautiful thing! I would also like to add US TITLE 28!Let FREEDOM ring!

    To everyone else....the 3 identities!!!!!IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING AND WHAT CAN HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE! Take back the control of your own life. Come out of the system!!!!

    1. Very Well done!!! Thank you Michael for this work and priceless contribution!!
      Much Gratitude, Love, Awareness and Peace Be Now for All

    2. C. Johnson, I should have stated in the beginning that I quoted the above from sedm.orgs digital publication titled: Why the Fourteenth Amendment is NOT a Threat to Your Freedom Form #08.015. is an excellent source of law both statutory and constitutional! I also recommend that you read sedms article about IRS form 56, available @

    3. Michael...I personally don't give a rip about the 14th has not power over me at all. I know be a woman...without govt! I know the truth! I am trying to bring everyone else to the truth of who they are!
      The thing is I was contemplating you and your comments last night. I know you have uncovered all the laws that support what I am telling the people. You are giving them the laws, I am giving them the history.
      But, there is one thing that does puzzle me about your postings and hope you can clarify this for me. Everything you are posting in the law is absolutely correct. However, do you make use of it?
      Let me tell you why I ask, it is one thing to know truth, it is another thing to be able to effectively make use of it.
      Here...let me ask you are stopped by a police officer for a traffic violation, how do you personally handle it. Because the truth is....jurisdiction. I see that you are continuing to post the lack of jurisdiction, but how can you make the usable for the people? PS. I am out of the IRS 'SYSTEM'! My records have been removed!

    4. know the sedm...pretty thoroughly. But, you see, I am not in dispute with of your postings, However, if the People wake up, they will FULLY SEE, NONE OF THAT HAS IMPLICATIONS FOR THEM OR THEIR LIVES. It is great to study law, but once you get law, you must get epiphany about the law. Michael...REVERSE this all...think beyond....question...WHERE IS THE LAW THAT MAKES THE PEOPLE SUBJECT TO ANY OF THE LAWS YOU ARE QUOTING? The absolute best thing...that the law can do is reveal the freedom of the people from its jurisdiction. But, once the People get they are not SUBJECTS to the jurisdictions...they need to leave the law...and challenge jurisdiction. EXAMPLE:
      I, woman, am exempt from man made law jurisdiction. How than would an official of said jurisdiction get jurisdiction over me? They can make the claim by public policy. SO WHAT! The study of law revealed truth to me. The truth revealed was this: the claim is false! So what care I of the claim? Claim can only be made in jurisdiction. Michael, you can not reveal to me, that I am free from said jurisdiction. You are late. I already have that truth. But, thank you for trying to reveal it. I only have one question, now after studying law: WHERE DID THEY GET JURISDICTION OVER YOU? Show me the law! Michael, you know the law, reveals truth that no jurisdiction exists. I rejoice with you that you have found that truth. Now, let the law go! You have found the truth! Now, when claim is what! The truth you have now, challenges jurisdiction and make claim null and void! A man is alive with rights unalienable and secured. LIVE FREE! You do not need to give them proof of your freedom, you can now demand they prove jurisdiction! A MAN IS ALIVE....I REJOICE!

    5. " is an excellent source of law both statutory and constitutional! I also recommend that you read sedms article about IRS form 56, available @ " michael

      Yes, completely agree with this valuable/priceless resource available for All!!! Thank you for the disclosure and for the introduction anf posting to this great resource (fully documented via topic) for the newly awakened and for the reminder to those of us that choose to keep learning everyday!! Thank you!!

      Much Gratitude, Love, Awareness and Peace Be Now for All

    6. Ps. Michael, wanted to clarify about rejoicing that the man is alive. YOU ARE THE MAN, BY YOUR WRITINGS, I KNOW YOU ARE ALIVE! Love to see MEN and WOMEN....ALIVE!

    7. C. Johnson, I recommended sedms about the irs form 56 article for the public officer info the article contains. I did not mean to keep refering the 14th amendment to you, I was just saying where I got the information from. Most people in america are U.S citizens/public officers and they should change that so Statues, and codes are important to learn about, and because statues and codes apply/ are meant to be for all government employees/public officers, including police officers!

      Government and its employees assume and presume that they have jurisdiction over you, because that is the norm (most people in america are U.S citizens and do not know any better!) I know you already know that government gets its jurisdiction over someone by this someone (unknowingly) contracts with the government- i.e by filling out government forms/applications, by getting a drivers license (and by apllying for any type of license), etc, etc! But being subject to government jurisdiction starts when the parent(s) of a infant filled out social security form ss-5 to give the infant a social(ist) (un)security number.

      Yes, I do make use of the common law and I have divorced myself from the government. I do not have a drivers license, nor do I register my truck and I do not have plates/tags on my truck, I bought custom made private plates. As to how I assert my rights when I get pulled over by a police officer, I give the police officer a clipboard that contains all of the following: A public servant questionaire, wich I am lawfully able to do under the privacy act of 5 U.S.C. § 552a (the questionaire puts the police officer on notice, even if he or she does not sign the questionaire), a copy of the irs form 56 and a copy of the Resignation of Compelled Social Security Trustee document that I have filled out and sent together to the irs, and an INJURY DEFENSE FRANCHISE AND AGREEMENT document, wich is a (government) antifranchise document.

    8. Kelli, Thank You and you are welcome!

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  22. C.Johnson....Your contribution to this blog and prior postings as well as Michael Schnitzer's posting on this blog are extremely valuable for all serious people which follow the writings of Anna on her site. I personally have followed Anna's writings for quite some time, it is much at times to wrap your mind around after being so indoctrinated your entire life.

    I have filed the documents in posting 928 with the county recorder's office in my birth state... no problem, I believe they were excited to receive the filing fees.

    There are a few questions which you or someone might care to respond for the benefit of myself and others... 1) What is the value of a a proper passport (not issued in capacity as a US citizen)in addition to our filings which refute and correct our prior registrations? IF of value any guidance...? 2) In addition, to filing a well stated IRS Form 56 ( as outlined in what other correspondence to the IRS etal would you suggest to remove your records from their system? Finally, 3) C.J do you have a comprehensive checklist of needed filings everyone should complete beyond those enumerated in Anna's postings in 928 ??

    Again, thank you for your insight with simplicity, Michael Schnitzer's postings are valuable if one needs to "get into the weeds" of the law. At times, your eyes glaze over with a re-reading of the material. Both of your many postings are much appreciated.

    1. Richard, no comprehensive checklist! Think of it this way...wherever you have a RECORD with the MIS-CONSTRUCT name on it...that you want to change from PUBLIC to PRIVATE. I personally changed my records with IRS, SOCIAL SECURITY, COUNTY, STATE, STATE TAX REVENUE and THE CREDIT BUREAUS. Everywhere, I could think of to amend the record, I did it.
      NOTE: In changing from public to private you must move out of the U.S. AND ITS TERRITORIES. You can no longer make your home on U.S. soil. You must make your home, on the land of your home state. You must become a NON-DOMESTIC. You can use a DOMESTIC MAILING ONLY ADDRESS, but never again can you claim a DOMESTIC RESIDENCE.
      So personally, with my affidavits, I sent a cover letter with detailed instructions, telling them to change my records from public to private and to amend my records to reflect both my homestead address and my domestic mailing address and to send me verification of said changes within 30 days. [I GAVE THEM AN ORDER.] I NOTICED, any and every office I could think of to amend the contracts [RECORDS].
      I never agree to be a U.S. CITIZEN. If I see the U.S. CITIZEN box on something, I line through it and write NATIONAL next to it. Like a driver's license, no law demands me to be a US CITIZEN and to waive my rights, in order to have one, if I want one. See I took the red pill and man, the effects have been beyond belief.
      ps. law! I don't care how much it makes your eyes bug out. Do it! Get it into the core of your system, YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO WAIVE YOUR RIGHTS OR SUBJECT YOURSELF TO THEIR SYSTEM. TAKE CONTROL...MAKE GREAT CONTRACTS! I will never again sign a contract that asks me if I am a U.S. CITIZEN. My answer will always be 'NOT ONLY, NO...BUT, H...NO!" I take out my little blue pen and line through it and write NATIONAL [AMERICAN STATE]. What they gonna do? I'm their boss! THEY OWE ME SERVICE AND NO LAW DEMANDS I SURRENDER MY NATIONAL STATUS AND RIGHTS TO OBTAIN THAT SERVICE! So, guess what? I don't surrender my NATIONAL STATUS or RIGHTS. Matter of fact, not only do I not surrender them, I WRITE ABOVE MY SIGNATURE: UNALIENABLE AND SECURED RIGHTS RESERVED. I carry a pocket Constitution everywhere I go. I get any fluff, I just go to the bill of rights, find the one that applies and ask them are they aware of it and then I ask them about their oath, is it on file..PUBLIC RECORDS..THAT IS! Listen I am a woman, I refuse to be treated like a corporate slave! My record's prove my status! So, change your records, change them everywhere, put them on NOTICE, of your NATIONAL STATUS. Don't be shy, just do it!

    2. Ps. Richard, as you can see, I don't study law anymore. I just use it! Let me share this with you that is SO EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. They assume everything...unless you pop their ASSUMPTION ABOUT YOU bubble. Get you a great big, pin....P...I....N.... and use it. It's gone it. When you do your paperwork, you will have the evidence [pin] to prove their ASSUMPTIONS are false. You don't have to say a word. You just need to NOTICE THEM in writing, about their failed assumption. Anna says walk in with a birth certificate and lay all the docs on top of it, covering it with your authority and then just looking at them. I LOVE THAT! WOO-WOO! Get this picture, why I love that....they took control by the B/C. Your affidavits, take the control back. So you lay the B/C down and cover it up with your affidavits. WHAT???? And you didn't say a word, you just looked at them and what is already recorded in the system...ON AND FOR THE RECORD. I love Anna and I love that image! I mean there's other ways to do it...but I love that!

    3. C.J Thank you for your lengthy response. Yes, I agree the documents should speak for you with the constitution. That will be my final project, I am sure it would be very intimidating to any "government official". By nature and training, I am not a shy person, that won't be a problem.

      As I watch the protests in downtown New York this afternoon (regarding Mueller) I am drafting affidavits to all those agencies with instructions to respond in writing that my RECORDS are deleted from the Public System. Did you have any problem obtaining these responses within your 30 day time frame? Being large bureaucratic agencies, this would be a feat in itself.

      Currently, I own and live in a property in Arizona but I was born in Iowa. Two questions, if you know, should I be filing a deed to my birth given name in the Iowa County I was born ? How about a recording in Maricopa county, Arizona? Anna spoke about doing a metes and bound description for such a deed. However, I live in a condominium which might be a challenge for an assessor. Any thoughts ??

      I am attempting to finish all these filings with responses before the coming Christmas holidays for my sister and myself.

      Thank you in advance for any other suggestions.

    4. Richard, haven't really studied 'LAND PATENTS' but if you want to know how to get a 'LAND PATENT' there is great info on land about 'LAND PATENTS'. Not deeds...but, 'LAND PATENTS'! Get your land in your name....PRIVATE...PROPERTY CAN'T BE TAXED. How are you liking the PRIVATE THINGS, SO FAR?

    5. PS. I always give a 30 day NOTICE, for response. 30 days from receipt.

    6. richard

    7. ps richard

    8. Richard,'s path to freedom ebook is a check list you can do.

  23. TO EVERYONE...I am so sick in my heart right now. I just received an email from a man who was arrested and is losing his home and doesn't understand how all this can be happening under 'IMMINENT DOMAIN'.
    He and I just began emailing 3 days ago. Here is the issue and because he is in court now and is fighting for his house, nothing can be done from this side of the fence. Once you are in jurisdiction of the system you are in the system. A lot of this has to do with PRIVACY OF HIS RECORDS and the LAND PATENT Richard asked about. LISTEN absolutely must change over all your records from PUBLIC TO PRIVATE. If your land is in the possess of the BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT [CONTROLLERS OF PUBLIC LANDS] then YOU DO NOT OWN THE LAND. They can come and take it and there is nothing you can do about it. They can bust in your front door and they won't care. WHY? BECAUSE YOUR LAND IS IN THE U.S., DOG GONE IT! Your home is on U.S. SOIL! IT'S NOT PRIVATE, ITS PUBLIC AND SUBJECT TO THE LAWS OF THE U.S.
    Here is the privacy it...all your rights are based on you understanding privacy [PRIVATE]. If YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PRIVATE AND PUBLIC YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO STAND ON YOUR RIGHTS.

    1. ps under item 8 on the page 317 or that privacy act....PLEASE NOTICE THIS...NON-FEDERAL RECORDS....AND 2 OR MORE SYSTEMS OF RECORDS.
      Understand, the federal govt. has federal records systems and non-federal records system. the non-federal is the private.

    2. ps. who do they keep records on? (2) the term “individual” means a citizen of the United States or an alien lawfully
      admitted for permanent residence;

  24. C.J Thanks for Land Patent information... I reviewed you links and did some further research. I have read commentary that filing such a patent should take you off the public tax roll records (blacked out), so no tax bills. However, I have read another commentary that several in several states, that cases which went to court found in favor of the county governments that taxpayer would pay property taxes. I realize your property is not subject to forfeiture, but it appears these cases were never challenged to the United States Supreme Court only to the state level courts. any thoughts ???

    It appears law schools and lawyers in continued education never are taught the significance of parties owning property under an allodial land patent or they on purpose do not offer this advice to clients...... similar to Revocable Trusts vs Probate via Testate or Intestate planning, which in my opinion is MALPRACTICE....

    BTW, I am posting after finding this Blog # 1335 in Paul's Search Box Engine.... for some reason this Blog on Citizenship was deleted from my mail..... NOT BY ME.... ???

    I believe the answer to you last Question... NO WHERE !!!

    1. Richard...I am going to quote you..."taxpayer would pay property taxes". TAXPAYER, Richard? Who the heck is the tax payer? I absolutely do not know of any laws on the land of this nation...where PRIVATE Men, women, or children [and for the sake of argument] individuals can be taxed on their PRIVATE PROPERTY or POSSESSIONS or are TAXPAYERS. RICHARD...DO YOU KNOW YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO PRIVATE PROPERTY AND POSSESSIONS AND PRIVACY OF YOUR PAPERS? DO YOU KNOW 'WHERE RIGHTS ARE SECURED BY THE CONSTITUTION THERE CAN BE NO LEGISLATIVE ACT OR RULES OR REGULATIONS TO ABROGATE THEM! [Miranda vs Arizona]? CAN YOU TELL ME, IF TAXES ON PROPERTY IS A SECURED RIGHT WITHIN THE CONSTITUTION? CAN YOU TELL ME IF PROPERTY TAXES ARE NOTHING MORE THAN ACTS OF STATE OF STATE LEGISLATURES? CAN YOU TELL ME ARE YOU A CITIZEN OF THE STATE OF STATE or a NATIONAL OF A sovereign, several State! do they get jurisdiction over you..a order to make you a tax payer for your PRIVATE PROPERTY? Where in the heck is the Constitution mandate that gives them power over your PRIVATE PROPERTY? Where is it in any law anywhere?
      HERE'S WHAT LAW SAYS: PRIVATE PROPERTY IS TAX EXEMPT! What does the LAND PATENT followed by a recording of the patent with county records do? It transfers the land from the PREVIOUS owner of the land to you. The issue is, the land is being held in trust until the LAWFUL AND RIGHT..FUL....OWNER COMES MAKE HIS CLAIM TO HIS PRIVATE LAND! The it moves from PUBLIC to PRIVATE! Right now...THE TAXPAYER HAS TO PAY TAXES ON IT! Who are YOU, the taxpayer or the OWNER? Richard, if you don't get possession of the land, you don't own it. It is in trust..and you must continue to pay rent. You don't own the land, until you take it into the private. You are a TENANT ON THE LAND...YOUR RENT COMES DUE ANNUALLY. It's a public asset, not a private asset. Its only a private asset when a MAN, WOMAN OR CHILD owns it. EVERY RIGHT YOU HAVE EXISTS ONLY ON THE PRIVATE SIDE. I hope you see the picture? I don't know how else to paint it for you!P.S. THE FEDERAL DISTRICT STATE OF STATE, has no RIGHT to own any land in a several State. They can however hold it in trust, until the LAWFUL and RIGHT...ful owner claims it from the finders/keepers box. They allegedly found the land and are waiting for a owner to come claim it. In the meantime, they are happy to charge the TAXPAYER TENANT ON THE LAND FOR ITS RENTAL USE.

    2. Ps. Richard, you need to do it before 2030 because that is when they are expected to have pushed all the people off the land and to rule it vacant and to claim it to themselves. They are using agenda 2030 to get us off the land and to take the soil from beneath our feet. They are now stealing AMERICA. They've already taken everything else. This is why ANNA FIGHTS FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE ASSEMBLIES. We need 30 people from every state, to claim the land for us Americans. 12 years...ticking!

    3. Richard, is not enough to say you are a man. PROVE IT! Private men own private property. That property is the soil of the several State. OWN IT...then you are a private man! ONLY PRIVATE MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN CAN ONLY LAND! Please tell me you understand! I am not talking to you about a concept...I am talking to you about the real world. HOW YOU MUST LIVE YOUR LIFE! The matrix is the conceptual world...come out of it and actually live as a man would live on land!


  25. To everyone about land patents: WEFF vs. U.S. 165F.263, 277, 91C.C.A. 241

    here's some links that can help anyone wishing to get their patten.

  26. look what is happening with land pattens in canada and europe. If it is happening it happening in America? They are destroying land patent records

  27. C.J. YOU ARE SINGING TO THE CHOIR :))). Yes, Marbury v Madison and Miranda v Arizona are Staple cases regarding Constitutional Issues on Rights. I am bad for using the word "Taxpayer"... not my intention. However, here are 3 court cases discussing land patents.

    In reading these cases, it is not clear whether the "party" executed a proper chain of title land patent. However, it is clear in all cases, the court states, that "federal courts have squarely rejected the argument, ruling that government grants of property by federal land patent in centuries past do not prevent the creation of later interests and have nothing to do with claims subsequent (property taxes and mortgages) subsequently arising under state law." DisplayDocument.pdf?content=pdf&seqNo=99724

    I am not arguing the point about constitutional RIGHTS..... BUT, in all 3 cases, it appears the "parties" filed the "land patents" then quit paying property taxes OR quit paying a mortgage or attempted to remove the bank's interest in the property. Bottom line, the sheriff shows up, there is a sale of the property and they are out in the cold...


    Anyway, I am busy drafting and filing affidavits, Form 56 etc, so I am marching ahead for myself and my sister. So, you don't have to talk me into walking the talk....

    But what is your thoughts about these cases...??? Courts are corrupt and I have seen first hand courts making rulings by misinterpreting or emphasizing some evidence over other evidence to advance their own interest, especially if one of the parties is the GOVERNMENT. Even though the Supreme Court is the "Court of Last Resort" 90% of all litigants never make it to the High Court.....

    I appreciate your input as someone who makes a major INFORMED CONTRIBUTION to the blog..... In my past life, I gave seminars to professional groups on legal planning to avoid the court system..... the state Bar was not too happy.... I am no fan of Lawyers and or Attorney's at Law...

    1. Richard, The 3 court cases you shared probably had a social security numbers attached to the property mortgages, deeds and or titles Like C.J said.

      Here are 2 good sources on land patents: (this costs $33 but is worth it. And (this is free)

    2. Richard, land patents do not forgive mortgages. A mortgage is a commercial transaction. If a commercial transaction is used, then jurisdiction is the U.S. In order to get a mortgage, someone had to use an SS#. That number id's them as U.S. CITIZEN right? NO U.S. CITIZEN is free from the STATE. THE STATE HAS JURISDICTION OVER ALL U.S. CITIZENS. Land cannot be owned by U.S. CITIZENS. Only Americans can owe land. Again, everything has to be brought back to the private. But, you can't do that if a COMMERCIAL LIEN...IE..FROM THE BANK...EXISTS! Commercial Liens establish jurisdiction. Again, how do they get jurisdiction over us! Everyone needs to know that for their own situations. I just told you how they get jurisdiction when commercial liens are present.

  28. Richard, I have not studied the land patents enough to say what happened in those cases. But, the thing is the SOCIAL SECURITY CARD. It is the link to the public side. If those people purchased land on credit I don't think [not certain] they could get the land patents legally or lawfully. The liens on the property have to be satisfied, title search all the way back to the last land patent has to be done, a 30 day public notice [like in news paper] has to be made, before registering in county recorder. All the steps must be completed. Again, I don't know the enough to be able to tell anyone. But, this thing I do know, if you want to own the land, you gotta bring it to the and clear. It has to come to the private without any ability for public or private claims from others.

    1. Richard us that know need to form law study groups. I've been considering this for awhile. Heck, ATTORNEYS study LEGAL. We the people should study our LAW. if the PEOPLE knew their LAW they could override all the LEGAL ever thrown at them.

  29. I get where Abby is coming from that we should not have to do paperwork to change our political status. Abby is right, We should not have to do our paperwork, but we do! The issue is most people including government employees, this includes most law enforcement officers do not know u.s citizenship is based on fraud and adhesion contracts signed under penalty of perjury. These adhesion contracts makes you liable whether you like it or not. You need to do your paperwork to nullify the adhesion contracts and to prevent government employees (this includes the majority of law enforcement) assumptions and presumptions about your political status. Nobody can change your political status for you and nobody is going to come to save you. You can only save yourself. Doing nothing will not do a damn thing!

    To all those who do not know what to do when or if they get hauled in court...

    The trick is to avoid going into court if there is no crime and there are no victim(s)! Read and use the common law abatement proccess here:

    1. I would like to add to my above post that in the abatement documemts, the author uses the terms citizen(s) and person and one time the author uses the term sovereign citizen. I avoid using the term citizen(s) and person, instead of using the term citizens, I use the term the people of Florida.

      The courthouse, the judge and the prosecution attorney are not the court. The paperwork is the court. This is another reason why doing your paperwork is important! In addition to sending the judge, court clerk, and the prosecution attorney the abatement documents, I also send them for good measure a copy of the following documents that I have sent the government: irs form 56, and sedm' Resignation of compelled social security trustee.

  30. Michael...AWESOME POST! INCREDIBLY TRUE! The abatement PAPERWORK to Challenge it! NO JURISDICTION...SORRY MR. JUDGE...NO AUTHORITY! THE KEY TO THE ENTIRE SHENIGANS IS JURISDICTION. They do not have it, ever! When they are called on ASSUMING JURISDICTION, they back off, WHY? Because they know, NO JURISDICTION is acts UNDER COLOR OF LAW and/or CONSPIRACY against rights! When someone challenges jurisdiction on paper....on and for the record....they don't answer or respond. Because anyone who knows to challenge jurisdiction, is someone they do not want in their courts, ever! They do not want to have to prove jurisdiction on and for the record. HOW DID THEY GET JURISDICTION OVER ME? That's all I want to know, ever!

    1. FYI...only corporate entities have to have a representative [attorney] because corporations can't speak...they are not real persons...they are only given that title. However, real men and women, are SUI JURIS, NEVER PRO SE. Pro se is a representative...again a corporate entity is sending its representative.

      They do not want a SUI JURIS in court ever! Why? Because a SUI JURIS is a man or woman with all rights of freedom and overrides the corporate court jurisdiction. Man or woman needs no representative in court, because man or woman is not subject to the court, the court lacks jurisdiction.

      SUI JURIS: One who has all the rights to which a freemen is entitled; one who is not under the power of another, as a slave, a minor, and the like. 2. To make a valid contract, a person must, in general, be sui juris. Every one of full age is presumed to be sui juris.

      CAN A VALID CONTRACT BE MADE BETWEEN A MAN OR WOMAN AND A CORPORATION? Now, that's a great question isn't it?

  31. Thanks to 1Free Man, who posted it here numerous times, I just received my State National/non-Citizen passport and State National/non-Citizen ID card. I followed his advice and went through Would recomend to anyone interested!


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