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Wednesday, September 18, 2019

Wall Street

By Anna Von Reitz

Most people hear "Wall Street" and they think of the glittering drama of the New York Stock Exchange, the great trading houses and securities companies, the "heart" of the New York Financial District.  

But do you know the history of Wall Street?  How the place got its name?  And what underlies it to this day?  


Slaves built New York City, tens of thousands of slaves, who were worked to death and whose bones, skulls, blood, and other remains were hauled out to the perimeter of the area under development and dumped into a ditch.  The ditch filled up, and then, this barrier of human remains and construction debris became a wall.  And the closest street to the wall?   Wall Street. 

It represents one of the "Seals" on Earth, because it was "sealed" in the blood of the innocent, just like the bones and blood on Bardsey Island, just like the bones and blood underlying Rome.  

All these places are grossly tainted with innocent blood. 

As you think about Wall Street from now on, do so with the understanding of what it is truly built on, and why that blights everything and distorts the natural flow of the Earth's magnetic field.  

People who have died at peace, full of years, well-loved, leave no such trace; theirs is a happy echo.  But those who have died in misery and distress, who have been abused and terrified--- that is a different story.  Their blood cries out to the Living God, the True God, our Father, the Creator.  

And their innocent blood calls down the Wrath of Heaven.  

Those who have caused this, of course, think that nobody has noticed and that nobody will answer the cries of the dead.  The time delay between when they commit these heinous acts and when Heaven answers, is such that they can't connect the two events.  

New York City has offended the True God in other ways as well, knowingly or unknowingly.  They have allowed the French Free Masons to place a statue -- an idol --- honoring Ashtoreth, The Great Abomination --- in New York Harbor, and they have passed this profane and foreign goddess off as "The Statue of Liberty" and deluded people into welcoming her under these False Pretenses. 

What this country stands for is freedom and truth, not lies and liberty.  

Liberty is what British sailors get when they reach port. 

Ashtoreth, the Great Abomination, ironically stands as the marker of the gateway of a country founded by pilgrims, and her promoters, sophists and hypocrites of the worst sort, claim that we are obligated by our commitment to freedom of conscience and religion to tolerate their anti-religion devoted to the Father of All Lies, and his Consort, the Great Harlot. 

This circumstance has painted a big bull's eye target on New York City, and as Jesus warned, "When you see the Great Abomination (a statue of Ashtoreth) standing where it should not stand....."  

The deceit involved, bamboozling innocent people into thinking that "The Statue of Liberty" is a good thing, and the general failure to recognize it as a profane and pagan idol, makes it all-but-impossible to correct. 

The pride and infamy of the members of Congress is another issue.  These men and women have pretended to be representatives of the people of this country, but in fact they have only been political lobbyists, mostly in the employ of special interests --- including political interests that despise this country and which seek to destroy it at every turn.  Because of their endless arrogance and self-importance, the prophecy of the Sycamores and the Cedars has been fulfilled. 

The labeling and witch hunting and defamation that the members of this  Congress  have indulged in, their character assassination of Justice Kavanaugh and Donald Trump, their heedless waste of public time and money, their lack of any kind of character or conscience, their deplorable Bad Example ---all stands as an affront.  

They have sought to destroy families and marriages, as they have hypocritically sought to destroy the reputations of innocent men for their own political ends,  and they think that there will be no retribution for this. 

They aren't sharp enough to catch the time delay between the Cause and the Effect.  So when they are disgraced and rubbed into the dirt, they still won't grasp why the house fell down on top of them. 

The Public Law makes it very clear that it is forbidden to "securitize" living flesh, so what do these Devotees of Satan do?  They concoct the entire Dead Baby Scam, pretend that our fetal afterbirth material was a "living person" and attach our names to it, so that they can create a phony infant decedent estate trust "in our names" and latch onto it for their own benefit.  

That's how they have "served" the people of this country.  By impersonating us.  By thieving from us.  By committing genocide on paper against us. By disgracing our good names.  By obstructing our trade. By stealing our credit.  By taxing us without any fiduciary responsibility. By jailing millions of Americans for profit. By running private corporate collection agencies "as" courts.  By disenfranchising at least half the population.  By fraud.  By lies.  By secretive deceit.  With all the weapons of Satan's arsenal, these zombies have committed every crime and act of treason possible; still, they think, "I am no widow....."  

They think nobody is watching, and that Heaven doesn't hear.  

But Heaven does hear and does see.  Not one hair is lost in all the Seven Seas.  Not one cry of pain or distress is unheard.   Not one drop of blood will go unanswered.  Not one.  


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  1. A history of wall street
    You may want to look up who built the white house and why the washington monument stands so high - it is because it too stands on the graves of those who built that white house and think the exact opposite when you think white - it too was built by slaves and their blood, sweat and bodies lay under that land - it is a monument for the beast that maliciously worked those people to death for that house
    The link I left above is a good channel
    I pray for the souls they have stolen and worked to the death for their evil agenda
    And in recent news about Greenland, make no mistake, this book here is relevant, IMO

    1. Yes Shelby that greenland theory it is true. I found out about it 5 years ago. The cardinal signs is really creepy.
      Peace and thanks for all your comments. sherry elizabeth

  2. Oh I have done a few week end jaunts in the Big Apple back in my day. Have seen Wall St. which has got to be the shortest street in the world, about one block long I would say, from my recollection. It even looks like a wall street because it is very narrow and very very tall building on both sides; makes it look like a street with high walls on both sides; and thus its name IMO.

    But once again, Anna shows her flair for the dramatic, along with her gross ignorance of biblical matters. So let me straighten you out a little, Anna, the great abomination as God tells us in his Word - - is that after the 'true jews' get their Temple rebuilt, which will be their holy place, the anti-christ guy moves his demonic hindend into IT - - which is The Abomination of desolation, biblically speaking - - and declares himself to be ''God''. THAT is what the great abomination IS.

    It is NOT the statue of liberty as you are deceiving folks here to think, and it has nothing at all to do with NYC either, far far from it.

    And No, this country no longer stands for much of anything that is righteous anymore; and no it is not all these political indiscretions that will bring down the wrath of God upon this country; it is the gross sin and unspeakable evil and wickedness that it is now overflowing in. Anna, get off your governmental tyranny as being the focal point, and quit being so afraid to point the finger at the real culprit......S I N and corruption. And that corruption includes the corruption of the minds of the masses, across the boards. But the bottom line which brings the coming Wrath, is the disobedience to God and the dismissal of Him from life itself, to the point now that if you even mention 'God' in public, it would be risking your very life, and likely get a knife put thru your very being, literally.

    1. from what i have read, america always was largely based on 2nd coming. covertly, francis bacon and the "new atlantis" but also openly.

      how much founders/etc. actually BELIEVED, versus trying to inspire people to strive for "independence" and self-government etc. is another story.

      (notable exception: lord baltimore and maryland, attempting to provide a refuge from masonic england; first act of religious toleration, still mandated a trinity (with holy ghost, not holy spirit (2nd coming) )

      (i will not attempt to vouch for e.g. one of his descendants with many mistresses; consider the tale of henry viii and ask would any legitimate "catholic", even a "british" one, want to go there? for his ancestors trying to provide safety away from masonic england, looks that distant son was a disappointment ),_6th_Baron_Baltimore
      QUOTE when the chief of police requested him to declare which of the eight ladies was his wife, he replied that he was an Englishman
      QUOTE With the aid of his physician he conducted odd experiments on his houris
      sounds like he was into masonic enlightenment "experiments"; maybe these were "legitimate" companions and he was seeking a better diet for all humanity
      from the american point of view i would say anna is correct, but the american point of view is everyone is "saved" and "blessed" with "freedom" by virtue of being born or arriving in america; thus, no baptism, or bible readings even, or anything else necessary.

      this is the giant elephent in the room. even if anna is right: there is zero HUMAN enforcement (supposed heavenly enforcement, but the wrong god, is not someone anyone should wait around for or try to invoke)

      returning to articles of confederation would bring back religious oaths for office (depends on state which "religion(s)" they "tolerate")

      for better or worse, i don't see this happening. from everything i see, by and large, america was designed along masonic lines.

      even people who disagree, e.g. the late stanley monteith, would say it was usurped, so the non-pagan non-occultist elements have been almost totally eclipsed.

      bible jesus says call no man father. roman catholics might argue legitimate practitioners are supposed to be "saved" and not ordinary men. other "churches"?

      this cuts right to the issue. if there is no bloodlines in a "christian" or "catholic" nation, according to bible jesus, only saved and unsaved, "citizenship" is seemingly for saved/baptized/etc. people only.

      without getting into who "decides" who "meets" these "citizenship" requirements, and what the bare minimum requirements are: i don't see this happening in america anytime soon.

      not with "federal citizens" not with american common law (either by blood making people "posterity" of "we the people", nor for "naturalized" or people who revoke the "federal" side of their "federal citizenship")

      this also goes against belchers ancestors granting sovereignity in their own right to americans/militia/desendants/etc.

      america was simply never based on bible jesus's teachings.

      whether people want a theocracy or not...i don't see this changing.

      i will say, by default, if nothing changes, we will just get the same old occult/masonic/illuminist theocracy running the material show.

    2. e.g. james madison also was said to have based things on luther's "two kingdoms"

      "secular" gov. (a lie, there is no such thing, only question is which "religion" do they really push) and
      a "private" conscience.

      many people decry the so-called "removal of god from public life" -- but looks to me this was done on purpose, by design, at least post-federal constitution.

      and this was justified as being "christian" so far as luther's ideas go.

      likely all justified as "we don't want another pope/inquisition/etc. trying witches/heretics/etc."

      of course, it seems only fitting, america gets masonic inquisitors as our "reward"

      judge not, lest...seems to be at play here.

      maybe the likely-marked-on-the-forehead-with-wrong-baptism cavanaugh was correct about something. maybe what goes around does come around.

      pick up a mormon catalog, e.g. deseret book. you will discover how lincoln and others were REALLY all based on mormonism. the (nowadays post "civil war" fake us constitution) is "inspired by god". 2nd coming only of course. fits my thesis.

      if this is true, more proof to me: america was almost NEVER based on any "christianity" always along masonic lines.

      of course, if the self-appointed "melchidezek priesthood" IS "true", then perhaps the mormons are right about "america". it fits the rosicrucian angle. it fits the masonic angle.

      as i have said many times: 2nd coming seems to me the common denominator of masonic pseudo-"christianity".

    3. anna: "judge" cavanuah is in a state of sin. as is william barr. and many others.

      even the "bible" warns about hidden combinations or some such.

      roman catholics are explicitly commanded to not join or otherwise be tied to masonic organizations. such as a jacobin-liberty-cap based "us senate", or that all-seeing eye pyramid "thing", etc.

      IIRC this probably forbids them from partaking in "communion". not that they are likely to find any legitimate "churches" anyways.

    4. goodboots says, "I will stand up."September 18, 2019 at 7:32 PM

      "1560 Geneva Editions. The Geneva Bible was the "Bible of the Protestant Reformation", and the Bible of the Puritans and Pilgrims. It was the first Bible taken to America, brought over on the Mayflower. The Geneva Bible is the Bible upon which America was founded."

      -----copied from thekjvstore d0t ¢om website

      What you say is, at least in part, true as far as what I understand xerces. But what I just copied, above, is true too.
      There were many things going on at the same time!
      Many groups.
      Many agendas.

      I'm sure the indigenous Americans wondered what the hell these people were all doing and wished they would have never found their way across the "pond".

    5. goodboots and others, if you can, please listen and view the following

    6. the abomination is basically the same as mentioned in Maccabees and then again in Revelation where the anti-messiah sets a statue of himself in the temple and it will be able to speak...then he kills a swine on the alter (abomination)...

    7. abby: the masonic "living god" is explained in 1920s "the seventh seal" book, agnes jeanette. has a copy. you see it is filed under "occultism" "sex [magick]"

      basically "you can become a god": compare mormonism.

      standard mercuryism/hermeticism/thoth/horus/witchcraft/etc. blended with a "christian" facade. the "REAL" "TRUE" melchidezek priesthood (moses and aaron and their magic wands; this is why masons/mormons say they don't really hate women, because a "man" has to "initiate" but someone has to "receive" the "magic" or rosicrucian "soul science" if you prefer). "soul mates" stuff. jehovah == adam+eve. the "REAL" "creator".

      bible jesus, during his "call no man father" speech: beware the scribes standing in moses' place. they travel heaven and earth to make a convert, and make sons of hell twice as much as the phony priests themselves are, etc.

      normal folk don't qualify for the melchidezek priesthood. we can't go behind the "veil". we can't be "seers". the rosicrucians claim they have 6 "mystery schools" set up, to teach you to be a wizard, just like rosicrucian jesus was/is.

      it is not given to us to know, says bible mason jesus.

      mormons even provide a curtain, put on a masonic skit (nowadays, probably just show you a taped video)

      like IIRC certain "jewish" things everyone gets a new assigned name. orthodox russian and/or greek catholics apparently do this too.

      in a certain sense, "role playing" they theoretically can "reverse engineer" "glean" what it was like to be xyz by trying to "recreate" it.

      but then they extend this out to the world. so america is heaven on earth. the garden is in missouri or somewhere.

      they take all that is spiritual/metaphorical/sacred and make it literal and profane. all the "revelations" coincidentally happen to benefit themselves and noone else.

      i can't imagine masons/other satanists would be too happy with their 2nd-rate masonry. one, there is no "consent of the governed" and satanists are all about free will. masons everything is symbolic. i don't see any mystery why they murdered joseph smith. and the fact he entered the lodge, swore an oath, then seems to have broke it.

      "hyrum" -- even stole the masonic nicknames.

      for a traditional roman catholic view on 2nd coming, see the "seventh seal" 1958 movie. that would be death. quite the comedy, lots of humour. the vatican II endorsed this film, yet still does 2nd coming. quite the comedians.

      anna claims to be playing chess with satan (angel of death). except she's doing 2nd coming. you see how the "mergers" work.

      mormons do the same. they do 2nd coming but call it holy ghost (1st coming). the right words, the wrong definitions/intent. does not qualify as a roman catholic baptism. does not qualify as a protestant 1st coming 'jesus' either. DOES qualify as a masonic "marked deceived" baptism.

      there was a "catholic" church reported to ban harry potter. of course, moses/aaron/melchedizek priesthood/burning chariots...all this witchcraft i would bet they leave right in their "bibles", never explaining any of it.

      "beware the scribes"

      beware those who would deny you knowledge, for they have already in their heart deemed themselves your master.

      (they think this is "playing god", because he is "mysterious" "thousand points of light" we only catch "glimpses" father/son gnosticism stuff, etc.)

      they think hiding stuff from people is "godly" basically. what "the creator" would do. make you work for your salvation. prove you are worthy.

    8. old catholic paintings, christ was god, created adam and eve in the garden.

      in contrast, the "living god" is adam+eve == jehovah.

      that's the type of "knowledge" the serpent aka satan gave them. told them who the REAL creator was.

      as usual, 7th seal refers to second coming, masonic john's apocalypse.

      once everyone is "initiated" with the knowledge that satan is the REAL creator, then comes masonic heaven on earth.

    9. michiganian, no the antichrist does not set a statue of himself in the coming rebuilt Temple. He himself goes and sits his ass in it and declares himself to be God. Where do you get that it is just some statue? Where did you get that from I wonder, because that is not what the bible says.

      Xerces, your entire messed up mind has come from your reading all those other books you read. You seem to read every piece of shit that gets published, as if its worthy of the paper its printed on. WHY would anyone with a brain bother reading Agnes Jennette's stuff anyhow?? Why would any intelligent person let that junk into their mind??
      Xerces, you see thats why you come in here and you sound like some crazy person from a mental institution with the garbage you post in here.
      Wake up ! What Agnes says about the '7 Seals' is just plain garbage, way off the mark. There is only ONE place to read what the 7 Seals are about, and that is Revelation Chapter 6. PERIOD. So it is right there, WHY is anyone reading all these other stupid books on the Seals???????

      Xerces, why dont you take all you crap and just file it in the outhouse someplace; spare us our sanity please.

  3. Prophecy of Sycamores and Cedars???? Anna, where in the hell do you get that from? Some new age book? Some ancient book of mythology? Or from one of your channeling sessions? is NOT a biblical prophecy and has nothing do with anything of importance.

    1. goodboots says, "I will stand up."September 18, 2019 at 7:45 PM

      What she is probably referring to is when that Jewish man, Jonathan Kahn, got up after 9/11 and read from Isaiah CH 9, prob vss. 7-13, or so.
      There was alot more hoopla surrounding it. Then he wrote that book called The Harbinger off of it and made a fortune. The hoopla just went on and on commercializing it... Maybe it is true?... but it was milked to the nth degree commercially, IMO.

    2. goodboots, could be, I have not read it, but it seems like we are getting a lot of 'outside books' written by men with some very whacky ideas, being stated as facts when in fact it is just some weirdo idea they think is 'new' and can make a lot of money off of. And people are so gullible they fall for it just because its something new.
      Among them is all this new age ''consciousness and energy'' - which is the godless and God haters way of trying to get rid of the God they dont want to obey.
      And then there is this 'new thing called we are all holograms'' LOL. Now that has got to be the most ludicrous one of all, so far.
      Another way of denying God's creation of man, so these little antichrists who are led by satan, is now selling folks that they are 'just holograms'. This is like saying people are not people they are just some sort of image reflected by lights. Yeah, God did not create mankind, he just did some magic with lights, LOL.

      Its just really unbelievable what people are so easily led into (bullschitt).
      I dont know what Kahn is talking about, havent taken time to go check it out, but I do know neither of those two 'prophecies' are biblically significant and I dont know where he pulled those out of; they just fall thru my 'sifter'. Biblically, all prophecies are events, not trees.

    3. goodboots says, "I will stand up."September 19, 2019 at 11:14 AM

      Yeh Abby, IMO Kahn's info is gobbldy-gook, weaving a "biblical prophesy" story out of very obscure biblical text.
      I got suspicious way back then even because he had that book all ready to roll out to the people as soon as 9/11 was accomplished.
      And it looks more and more to me like FAKE Israel, not the true one, had aLOT to do with 9/11.
      Abby, they are gearing up for trying to tell us that 9/11 was a hologram when they release the info finally. I'm seeing that narrative being "beta tested" on the people more and more. So, NO, I don't *think* so!!!!! That wasn't a hologram or the Twin Towers would still be there!

      But just watch how they are pushing that hologram narrative.
      It will drop off and fade out if people won't buy in to it.

      They tried to do the same thing with that Mandela Effect they tried to push.
      The people just yawned in their faces on that one!

      Its all about PERCEPTION management.
      What they can get you to believe, they count to be your consent.

      My opinions only.

    4. Here is yet another free mason faker that wrote all kinds of books to fool the masses
      The fraud that is Zecharia Sitchin and Niburu/Planet X (SATURN)
      goodboots I know it is a you tube video but only one I know of that pointed this out
      Pretend that you translate some old Sumerian tablets, write a bunch of books about it, work undercover for the CIA, hide the fact that that he was a mason and now they have the world thinking Nibiru is coming or planet x
      My opinions only

    5. goodboots says, "I will stand up."September 19, 2019 at 6:26 PM

      Thanks for the summary Shelby.
      Yep, I'm thinking were going to be stricken with the news that much of this hobble-gobble has been contrived.

      I wish you would have wanted to go to that Alex Jones commenter about a.month ago. He was telling how in their system:
      Get this:
      They get advanced if they can make something up and get people to follow it.
      It's their creation and they get to reign over it but always UNDER Lucifer.

      So he said, in other words, if I can create a society, scenario, group, idea, and develop it and get people to finance it and follow it and go along with it, then I would get to reign over my creation and run it however I wanted.
      Knowing them, it would have to have violated the laws of nature and of natures creator though, and Am.trad.common law.

    6. goodboots, and here Shelby has hit on another one of those far out pieces of nonsense that they came out with a few short years ago - - this Niburu or planet X crap, aliens on them gonna come, arrive to help our planet, LOL Well, something like that, as I used to see some talk about it.......while I sat and rolled my eyes, lol.

  4. Some may find this interesting, the constellation Orion

  5. I must tell you all a testimony of my dear christian friend. She lives in another State, we met on line some years ago, and she came and visited me a little over a year ago, twice while she was here. We've become very good friends over the years.
    So she just emailed me a few days ago. It seems a dear elderly lady in her surroundings had no family she could trust or rely on, and she was in failing health.
    So she asked my friend if she would see to her proper burial, and to take care of some certain other tasks she wanted taken care of. My friend told her she would do exactly as she wanted done, which she did just recently, last week I think.
    So my friend writes me and tells me the woman left her house to her, in her Will. My friend did not know this, until the Will was read, so she is quite surprised.
    I will not give her personal details, as they are confidentially told to me, but I will just say that my friend really really needs the house she was given.
    (this is one way God turns his Children's lives around, and surprisingly so.)

    1. goodboots says, "I will stand up."September 19, 2019 at 11:18 AM

      Love one another as I have loved you. :):)

    2. Just to clarify that scripture which says 'love one another' is addressed to the church brethren, our fellow believers. It does not include everyone. And so we are not commanded to love liars,evil doers, those who are unbelievers. Just sayin'

    3. goodboots says, "I will stand up."September 19, 2019 at 6:13 PM

      I knew you'd know I meant that. :):):)

      ---In fact, how *could* anyone love a liar? You can't. They're actually not compatible for the task... it'd be like singing an airplane or riding an apple. :)

    4. Abby,
      i disagree with you and i have shown you scripture to support what i have said.
      You can love those outside of the 'brethren.' Relaying the Truth or showing them the Truth is but one example of Love.

      Good boots, Love a liar?
      I can disagree with a liar, you think i can not love a liar?
      Have you ever lied? Did the brethren and God stop loving you?

    5. correction: i have shown you in scripture what He has said!This is only one example of many. He did not say this would be easy!
      Love Your Enemies
      …31Do to others as you would have them do to you. 32If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. 33If you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do the same.…

    6. goodboots says, "I will stand up."September 20, 2019 at 1:29 PM

      It all depends on the liar's heart.
      Are they sorry?
      Are they "bringing forth fruits meet for repentance?"
      Are they HUMBLY restoring the ones they have harmed by their lies?
      Have they repented before God and made themselves accountable before men to not lie anymore?
      If yes to all that, then they do have to be forgiven.
      And they are not a liar anymore.
      And who wouldn't want to forgive someone who has done all that, as required?
      Surely they deserve forgiveness, I say.

      Or are they going to their victim and telling their victim their victim HAS to forgive them?
      Or worse, telling their victim that if their victim doesn't forgive them that their victim won't be forgiven by God for *their* sins.
      In my very strong opinion, that is cultish behavior, wrong doctrine, and really evil manipulation of other people which is the same as practicing witchcraft.

      No one, NO ONE, HAS to forgive anyone. Ever.... It's entirely up to the one who was harmed.
      Especially when the victimizer is not sorry and plans to keep lying/harming/other the victim.
      Then, Of COURSE the victim doesn't have to forgive!! To do so would be really self-dishonoring. Nowhere does God ever require mature men and women to dishonor themselves in order to honor others. Nowhere. And were supposed to be judging all things in accord with what is right and righteous.

      Since Jesus didn't forgive everybody, I don't see the mandate for me to do so. I know he stood ready to, and had covering for them, but if they continued sinning, quite frankly, his sacrifice did not and was never meant to cover that.

      I want to add that over my lifetime, I gave noticed that the people who insist that their victims have to forgive them are the ones who are planning to and do continue to harm their victims.
      That is especially prevalent in the churches, in my experience.

    7. goodboots says, "I will stand up."September 20, 2019 at 2:28 PM

      Your correction of others about loving ones enemies shows a lack of study;
      if you are following the man they call jesus, you are to study before you speak so that you are able to show yourself approved of God and a workman who is not ashamed.

      I'm not going to do it for you, but if you're interested, look up the meaning of the word love as jesus was using it in that text, in its proper context. Use an exhaustive concordance.

      The tiny book of Jude and also 2 and 3 John (both epistles) vss 10 and 11 warn to stay away from evil people. Not to invite them in. You bring avoidable harm on yourself and your loved ones.
      Then read what the man they call Jesus said in John 17:9.

      You will see that you are causing yourself needless grief by "casting by your pearls before swine" if you are trying to love everyone and are also unknowingly "leading others into the ditch" by teaching condemning, wrong doctrine.

    8. afollower, there is plenty of scripture that tells me otherwise, from what you are trying to admonish here. Tons of scripture tell me not to even eat with such people, not to associate with them, not to invite them into my house. It tells me to come out from among ''them'' and to be separate. It tells me that upon my salvation God set me Apart From The World, and unto Himself.

      And that 'we are still in the world, but no longer OF the world'. His Word also admonishes his true children to ''love NOT the world, NOR the things OF the world'.

      We know that liars are dishonest; how can we logically love dishonest people? Liars are known trouble makers because they are dangerously dishonest, and that means they are not to be trusted.

      Those are all characteristics that Jesus himself hates; even saying that liars go to hell. So why would we even think that it makes any sense to hang around liars or worse, loving them.
      ALL that we are to do is tell everyone the Truth. That is as far as it goes.
      Our only association with those outside the camp is to ''go out into the world and speak to sinners to repent'. That is our only purpose in 'the world'.

      Love is an action, not an emotion, biblically speaking. But the world views the word 'love' as always being emotion; they live by their emotions, but we are not 'still in the world' to cater to their emotions. Neither do we make decisions of any kind based on emotions, nor are we still 'in the world' to provide a pity party for them; for those who reject the Truth, they are in their ''pitiful condition' because they reject the Truth. Then there is nothing more for us to do.
      We are not 'still in this world' to be doormats for anyone who is of some misguided idea that we are here for them to wipe their feet on, or to dictate to us any of our behavior; or to give us Orders how to treat them.

      It is our LEARNED responsibility to first know how we are to treat people, and there are times when strong rebuke is definitely in order. We are not wimps, we are WARriors and not to allow folks to just mess with case they think we will stand for it.

      goodboots is right; there is no such command for us to ''love everybody'.

      Get the weeds out of your garden, and then keep them out. I suggest reading 2 Tim. 3:1-5. There you will see a long list of 18 different types of folks that are 'dangerous' to keep around, or be around. And look at the way we are commanded to treat them:

      v.5 from such, TURN AWAY.

    9. It is high time that everybody get it straight, about forgiveness: Again Goodboots is right. There is no such mandate, as we consistently hear from churchy folks saying........''oh but you HAVE TO forgive everybody''. That is one huge falacy.

      This is why we do have a mandate to Study for ourselves to see if we are approved (meeting correct standards) or not, because you cannot just take the word of some pastor.

      So here is what Jesus himself tells us about forgiveness:
      Luke 17:3 take heed to yourselves: If your brother trespass against you, Rebuke him, and (then) IF he repents, (then) forgive him'.

      That is a powerful straight forward lesson that needs to be learned, and churchy people especially. It shows that there must be heartfelt genuine repentance before forgiveness is required.

      It also shows the opposite is true: Get this: So what if they dont repent, then what? Well thats easy, if folks once learn how to read scripture, as what it does not say is just as important as what it does say.

      And so we have to know since forgiveness is given under the stipulation that the wrongdoer does repent - - then the opposite is true - - that if they dont repent, then NO forgiveness is given and it is NOT mandated.

      Now, how hard is that to digest, lol. People should quit just taking some pastor or some churchy person's word for it, but do like Paul said........''go check the Book and SEE if I tell you the truth''.

    10. I might add one more note. The only thing we hear now in these last days which is so full of over flowing Apostasy - - is ''ask for forgiveness''.

      To that I say Nope, forgiveness for what? Let me hear your repentance first, for as script. says ''.......and IF he repents......''

      So there is no such thing as ''oh just forgive me'. That is like saying 'oh please just let me off the hook here and dont be mad at me''. That is not repentance, its just wanting out scott free.

      Repentance means ''im sincerely sorry, and I wont do it anymore'.

  6. Since Im so full of 'gloom and doom' all the time, LOL, here is a good News testimony of how God has worked in our lives, at my house, and what fun He provides (for those who think living for God is boring, and no fun, lol)
    So my son was driving one night and two deer ran out right in front of his car. One headlight was totally bashed out and deer hair and blood was all along the passenger side of his car. The hood came unlatched, bent in the middle and folded up and wrapped around the windshield and up over the roof of the car, but did not detach at the hinges. My son was totally unharmed but the car was a total wreck.
    The car was towed home to our carport. A few days later the ins. co. had ordered the car towed to the junk yard. When the tow truck driver came he just stood there and gawked for the longest time.

    Whats wrong? He tells us he has towed a lot of deer-wrecked cars, but when they look like this one, he has always had a dead driver behind the wheel, so Im trying to figure out how this car can be in this condition and the driver escape death. He said he has never seen a hood bend and wrap like that and how the windshield was not broken, and the driver not get killed. (this momma's prayers answered, thats how)

    On top of that, my son had bought the car for 5 thousand less than book, so he ended up getting more for it from his ins. than what he paid for it.
    So I called my own car salesman telling me we are looking for another station wagon (to haul his bike in to bike trails). Told him what kind, he said they are hard to find, but will look around.

    So I pray and ask God to have somebody with a wagon like we want, trade theirs in, and give that person a new one. About 3 days later, my salesman calls me and says, hey I have the wagon for your son. A guy came in yesterday and said he just ''decided to trade in his wagon, and buy a new one''.
    Now is that just about as neat as all get out?

    Well, my son was asking for a wagon like this, just wanted it to be automatic, and a couple other things, thats all. Wasnt asking for the moon.
    So the salesman brings the car to our house, and whoa, it has remote start, remote locks, fog lights.....well it was loaded, LOL. (God has a sense of humor. Ask for a little, and he goes way overboard.) So my son buys the car and the check from the deer-stricken one pays for most of it, the rest got paid off in a year. Easy.

  7. Seeing lots of references to the 'christian cult' - so now religions are 'cults' or is it just this one in particular?????????? hmmm

    How about scientology??? Or others? Just curious