FBI and Oregon Police Killed a Political Dissident - by Tim Baldwin

Tim Baldwin is a son of Chuck Baldwin, and I know him personally. We don't always agree, but this time I think he got it right BIG TIME.

As an introduction to my thoughts on Lavoy Finnicum's killing in Burns, Oregon, consider my article published in the Flathead Beacon's Two For Thought weekly Opinion section:

The FBI and Oregon police killed a rancher, Lavoy Finicum, last week. Lavoy joined Ammon Bundy, among others, for three weeks in occupying a refuge on public lands in Burns. Like many Americans, the occupiers believed BLM had been long abusing power. Police released one video of the incident (but not other pertinent surveillance). Was this killing lawful? 

Under the Fourth Amendment, police who use deadly force have a burden to prove their actions were objectively reasonable in light of the facts and circumstances confronting them based on the totality of the circumstances.

Regardless of  one’s view of the occupation, the video raises issues regarding police’ actions: (1) Why block the highway in nowhere-ville? (2) Why use snipers and a dozen-plus officers? (3) Why not use spike strips to stop him? (4) When exactly was Lavoy likely to harm police?—when shot, Lavoy was facing no police, could barely walk in deep snow and held no gun. (5) Lavoy had not just committed a dangerous felony and fleeing therefrom. (6) Police had prior opportunities to serve an arrest warrant in a safe manner. (7) Why immediately rush Lavoy and spark conflict rather than contain the area and determine his actions?

The occupiers did not convince the greater part of society to aid them, given their seeming “state of war” approach. Still, if our laws can condemn Lavoy, they can also condemn police.

In fairness, there are some who are not normally forgiving to government abuse but believe police were justified in killing Lavoy: one such notable viewpoint on this incident is my dad, Chuck Baldwin. I, on the other hand, believe the video suggests that police were not justified in killing Lavoy when they did--even assuming he had a pistol inside his jacket and was reaching for it.

Read the rest on Tim's website here:

http://libertydefenseleague.com/Articles/tabid/524/ID/1528/FBI-and-Oregon-Police-Killed-a-Political-Dissident.aspx

Testimony of Shawna Cox about LaVoy Finicums shooting.

I have to warn you that this is gut wrenching.  It tells a different story than the official version.



Fired upon without provocation. Hundreds of shots. Vehicle shot many times. 

It's NOT going well for the "official version" video of LaVoy Finicum's death.

Tyranny, Defiance, and the Death of LaVoy Finicum

By William Norman Grigg

Pro Libertate Blog

January 30, 2016

LaVoy Finicum, who was shot at a roadblock by Oregon State Troopers and left to bleed to death in the snow, was not a violent criminal. He and his colleagues from the group calling itself Citizens for Constitutional Freedomwere traveling to John Day, Oregon to organize political resistance to federal control over lands in the western United States.

After trying to run the roadblock, Finicum plowed his vehicle into a snowbank. He exited with his hands in the air, staggering in the snow before making a motion with his right hand that the FBI claims was an effort to grab a handgun. Another possibility is that Finicum, as some witnesses claim, was shot while his hands were raised in a posture of surrender, and that his subsequent movements were involuntary.

The carefully planned ambush, which displayed detailed intelligence regarding the plans of Finicum and his friends, was a joint operation between the FBI and the Oregon State Police. It was was not carried out in defense of persons or property, but to enforce the will of those in control of the Regime. Finicum, a 55-year-old rancher from Arizona, had become the subject of a federal warrant after renouncing his grazing contract with the Washington-based usurpers who control range lands in that state.

The night before he was killed on Oregon’s Highway 395 in an FBI-orchestrated ambush, Finicum had denounced the “escalation” he had seen on the part of government officials seeking to end the CCF’s occupation of the Malheur National Refuge. On several previous occasions Finicum – who had raised cattle and scores of foster children — made it clear that he would rather die than spend the balance of his life immured in a government cage.

Read More on the original article at:

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/01/william-norman-grigg/tyranny-defiance-death/

Looks like LaVoy Finicum is shot while his hands in the air before he reaches in his vest

Update: Here is an enhanced video of the shooting. Sam Culper of Forward Observer Mag said on his personal Facebook page that he thinks Finicum was first shot with his hands in the air. 
Here is what Sam had to say. "I saw this new, enhanced video and it actually might appear that LaVoy was shot while gaining balance in the snow, trying to keep his hands in the air. And then shot again while holding his side, probably the wound. Make up your own mind."
Watch this video and decide for yourselves.  I have watched this over and over. Right at the beginning, when LaVoy has his hands in the air, it seems to me he was shot, and only then did he reach into his vest. This video is very poor, filmed from a helicopter, and would NOT be acceptable for court evidence because of the poor quality, but what would you bet they will try to use it anyway and say he was reaching so they shot him.   I agree with Sam. I think he was shot immediately and then reached into his vest so was shot again.   What do you think. Look at Finicum right when the video starts. It looks like he is struggling to stay on his feet. Watch the guy in the bottom right side when the video starts. Please comment below.



Please remember that NONE of this would have happened if the Hammonds had not been railroaded into jail by a crooked BLM working with a crooked judge and prosecutor who were hiding evidence from the defense.  Evidence that the BLM actually set the fires the Hammonds are in jail for, AND THEY KNEW IT AHEAD OF TIME according to eyewitness testimony of two who came forward during the occupation and recorded audio affidavits of this.  I heard this during the occupation and that evidence needs to be put before the public right away.

Just my opinion of course.  They can try to defend their actions, but I will bet money that millions of people are NOT BUYING it.

An American Amritsar - Judge Anna Von Reitz

January 27, 2016

Addressed to:

Ban Ki-moon

United Nations Secretary General

1st Avenue and 46th Street

New York NY 10017

Francois Hollande

55 Rue du Faubourg St. Honore

75008 Paris

Barack Hussein Obama

1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW

Washington, DC 20500

In Re: American Amritsar

Dear Sirs:

We should have heard it at Ruby Ridge, and somehow, despite the facts, did not.  A young Mother shot to death along with her baby and young son and the family dog for no reason by FBI Agents.

We should have heard it again at Waco, Texas.  A private community of people invaded, gassed, fire bombed--- again, with no credible reason by federal agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. Exactly where were the stockpiles of alcohol,  tobacco, or  firearms at Waco?

And now, a caravan of peaceful Americans on their way to a public meeting to discuss unlawful actions of the Bureau of Land Management (BLM)-- ambushed, murdered in cold blood, and subjected to false arrest by members of the FBI and "STATE" police.  What "STATE" of Oregon would that be?  A  bankrupt corporate franchise of the French Corporation known as the UNITED STATES, or the actual state of the Union owed to the people of Oregon?

Initial attempts are being made by the FBI to claim that it was being hindered  in the accomplishment of their "official duties"---- let's make it very clear that the members of the FBI are no longer public officers and have no "official duties".  They are commercial mercenaries acting under color of law at the behest of private, mostly foreign-owned banks, including the IMF, and dirty politicians.

Exclusive Oath Keepers Interview with LaVoy Finicum at the Refuge in Harney, OR.

While I was boots on the ground in Burns, OR.  I had a chance to sit down and speak with LaVoy Finicum, one of the leaders of the Citizens for Constitutional Freedom (www.C4CF.com) about what led him to leave his ranch in Arizona to be a part of the Hammond family support march and then partake in the occupation of the Malheur Refuge Center in Harney County Oregon.

In this interview we discuss the background of the Hammond family court case and the issues that surround what led to the conviction of the Hammond family and the questions that surround it. We then discuss the actual occupation of the Refuge Center and the planning that led up to that occupation and why there is the exercising of 1st Amendment rights along with the 2nd Amendment rights and other related topics. Please share this interview out with everyone you know in the Patriot Community.

Jason Van Tatenhove
National Media Director / Associate Editor
Jason@OathKeepers.org

Found here:
https://www.oathkeepers.org/exclusive-oath-keepers-interview-with-lavoy-finicum-at-the-refuge-in-harney-or/