For Arnie Rosner-- Reply to Suggestions

by Anna Von Reitz

1.    The organic Constitution is installed as the supreme law of the land.  

The Constitution, thank God, never left and doesn’t have to be “installed”—but it may (once we have educated ourselves sufficiently) need to be seriously corrected in some respects.  Term limits for Congress and no ability for Congress to exempt itself from the consequences of any action it takes and an end to Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 all spring to mind. A complete reworking of the sections dealing with courts and the judiciary also. The Constitution is a marvelous thing, but it has been over 200 years and while many needs and issues remain the same, we don’t have to maintain a split jurisdiction allowing any foreign governments to meddle in our affairs. The time will come for a Continental Congress--- a real one, not a fake—that brings together Fiduciary Deputies from every state to take stock of where we are and where we want to be.

2.    It would seem that there should be some sort of NOTICE provided announcing the termination of all contracts and agreements with any current contractors/employees. 

Fortunately or unfortunately, none of these people are actually working for us, and even if we had the right to terminate employees of middlemen employers (which is arguable since we are ultimately the ones paying for all this “service”) – it would cause real panic and chaos because there is no other organized system in place yet.

3.    Some key issues with which we would consider dealing…
Washington, D.C. recognition revoked.  Start charging rent for space. 

The discussion so far is to absorb DC back into the states that contributed to it to begin with and ensure that it is no longer operated as a separate Congressional oligarchy.

4.    Congress dissolved. 

The incorporated Congress is a private body--- a corporate Board of Directors---of a bankrupt corporation, so it is already in receivership and its assets are under distribution by Trustees. In a sense, “Congress” is already dissolved, impotent, forced to operate through secondary corporations if at all.  The problem is that false claims have been made to the effect that we and our public and private property assets are “standing good” for this bankrupt entity and the Trustees are trying to seize upon us and sell off our property to pay the creditors of the bankrupt UNITED STATES, INC.  We have objected and refuted any such presumption on the part of the Trustees and have also repudiated the mounds of odious debt that the UNITED STATES, INC. accumulated in “our names” and left for us to pay, just like any other identity thief or credit card snatcher.

5.    The Judiciary has its authority revoked.  

The strange truth is that unless you are actually involved in business on the sea or operating a corporation or are functioning as an employee or dependent of the federal government, the Federal Judiciary has never had any authority over you. 

     Except for a vague reference in Article I, another vague reference in Article VI, and Amendment VII, the real court system that everyone at the Constitutional Convention knew and thought of and took for granted was the then-functioning and powerful Continental Common Law Court system, which existed in the land jurisdiction and so was not part of the subject matter related to the Constitution. 

     The courts set up by the Constitution are all corporate administrative tribunals and Admiralty/Maritime courts--- precisely what you would expect of a document created to set up an organization charged with protecting the National Trust on the High Seas and Navigable Inland Waterways and providing nineteen services all of which are in the international jurisdiction of the sea.  The Federal Government has nothing much to do with the land jurisdiction—by the Founder’s design---so The Constitution simply doesn’t make mention of the land jurisdiction court system which had been functioning since the first Pilgrims waded ashore and which has functioned barely to the present day--- except for those two vague references and very directly, in Amendment VII. 

     Another point for Americans to understand is that the “United States Supreme Court” is only “supreme” for the Federal United States and its corporation employees. It has no power over the free sovereign and independent organic states nor over the free sovereign and independent people living in those states. 

     The function of the United States Supreme Court is to interpret the Constitution’s trust indenture, treaty requirements, and service contract for the  federal corporation employees and elected officials, thereby setting the limits for them. Not for us.

     Our Federal Supreme Court that addresses those “federal issues” that arise on the land jurisdiction under the Commerce Clause is The Supreme Court of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

     Please note--- there is the “United States” which is organized according to United States Districts wherein operate United States District Courts which are all supposed to be limited to the jurisdiction of the sea and the Law of the Sea (though they fudge it).  There are also the Federal Postal Districts wherein operate the Federal (Postal) District Courts that are land jurisdiction courts that operate under the Law of the Land. There is The Supreme Court of the United States and there is The Supreme Court of the Commonwealth (not the State) of Pennsylvania at the top of the two different “federal courts” –one on the sea and one on the land.

     Anyway, please grasp the fact that the United States Supreme Court is not “supreme” over you--- it is supreme over them, the Federales.

6.    The Administration given 5 days to vacate the premises. 

Once again, you have to remember you are dealing with a private corporation that claims to own the property and until our counter-claims are made and successfully proven and prosecuted in behalf of the People of the United States, they have possession of them. Also remember that these outrages have occurred in the jurisdiction of the sea and under the Law of the Sea, wherein “possession is nine-tenths of the law”.  Unless we want to be accused of piracy we have to play the game and evict them properly.  

7.    All treaties, agreements and legislation declared null and void…subject to review and reconsideration by a new type of government, should one be formed. 

So far as I have been able to determine the Organic Law which includes The Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation, Constitution and Northwest Ordinance plus the original formation documents of each State of the Union are still valid and in full force, as are the United States Statutes-at-Large which form the only body of Public Law except those public State and County Public Laws passed prior to incorporation of these bodies. We are always free to reorganize on the county level and repeal or update or add to local laws at will.  In our system, the power stays with the people who delegate to the counties which delegate to the states which delegate some of their powers and responsibilities to the federales.

8.    Transitional government agencies and resources.  

We may have a somewhat rocky start dealing with the debacle of Obama Care, reforming banking and securities law and administration, coming up with a means to deal with transition first to a gold/silver monetary system and later a blockchain credit delivery system, but in the main, it is the duty of those in office to ensure a smooth and orderly transition.  Failing that, we have to take charge at the local level, form up our own unincorporated counties, elect our own Sheriffs. and take up the issue of continued services.  Ideally this entails organizing emergency relief organizations, food banks, hand pump water wells, medical supply storage, having alternative power ready including moth-balled electrical and sanitation facilities, use of churches and schools and other large buildings in each community to provide emergency shelter. Development of a safe community trading center would also be desirable and useful immediately--- such centers provide a place for vendors to sell locally produced goods and goods brought in by local people for sale --- like Farmer’s Markets, but offering at least a partially indoor venue where people can still trade comfortably and safely in bad weather. In the event of real social upheaval, such trading centers will have to have armed security to prevent raids and theft.

9.    Individual sovereignty is immediately recognized.  

Our sovereignty has always been recognized---what has been misrepresented and obscured is our political status. To correct this in a sane and fair way, we need to set up a public process in which people are given full disclosure regarding their political status options and they are allowed to choose their option without coercion.  There are plusses and minuses whatever one chooses, but the right to make an informed decision for oneself is fundamental.

10. Monetary system established.  

The “new” monetary system is already well on the way to being here.  Initially, it will mean a return to the old gold and silver standard, but quite soon there should be a worldwide alternative currency that permanently de-centralizes banking functions and provides a secure platform for trading itself and which also interfaces with national currencies to allow mutual translation and exchange.

11. Orderly transition of control over the military – Military protection for the people.   

We have repeatedly asked for assistance from the Provost Marshals who are responsible for coordinating joint response task forces without success.  These men have been either dumbed down or redirected so as to render their crucial function worthless. The Coast Guard Commandant who is supposed to protect us from inland piracy has been equally unresponsive.  This is very problematic to say the least, but on the other hand, the military has not created any problems, either.  Hopefully the growing broad spectrum understanding of who and what the government really is will lead to better service delivery and performance overall.

12. Public safety – police, fire and rescue.  

These functions are or can be headed up by volunteers in each community.

13. Legitimate judicial system.  

The judicial system is already embodied in each and every one of us and is brought to full life by the process of reorganizing our county and state governments--- either by overtly dissolving the incorporated county and state or by creating a separate county and county court system for the jurisdiction of the land, the vacant offices of the public courts are filled at the same time as Sheriffs responsible for upholding the Organic and Public Laws are elected.    

14. Healthcare: See items above related to community organization.

15. Basic life support for the indigent.  

We’ve seen hard times in this country before when we have had to open up poor houses and orphanages and hospices and “day hospitals” and shelters and we may come to that again, but in view of the amount of assets available there is really no reason for anyone in this country or any other to go without anything they legitimately need. All such suffering and deprivation has been caused by criminality and greed.

16. Other essential citizen’s services.  

I am often asked about pensions and Social Security and other related issues.  The rats responsible for this fraud and mis-administration have gutted the Social Security funds along with everything else.  That’s the bad news.  The good news is that we know where it went and we are determined that just as we are all Priority Creditors the top Priority Creditors are America’s Seniors and Veterans, to whom we owe it all. 

17. All pensions, benefits and agreements previously in place are the responsibility of the previous management. All inquiries must be submitted to the United States of America, Inc.  This corporation is located in Washington, D.C..  

Actually, we have claimed back all American assets and the only ones whose pensions are subject to any threat are Federal United States and Washington, DC citizens.  So far as I know at this point even “federal” pensions owed to anyone born in the Continental United States or whose parents were born in the Continental United States and who contributed to federal pension funds should be covered in the asset reclamation. In fact—another ray of very good news--- pensions should be considerably more generous and medical care and health preservation “extras” such as dietary supplements, massage, physical therapy, acupuncture, hypnotherapy, kinetic kinesiology, pain relief therapy, chiropractor services, aromatherapy, hydrotherapy, exercise and spa programs, recreational therapy, assisted living services, and hospice care should be far more available for the elderly and injured and mental health services – especially early intervention and support services and assistance with drug and alcohol and tobacco addictions—should be much more readily available.  

18. It would also seem appropriate to notice all members of the federal government.  They must be given termination notices – perhaps given 5 days to vacate any offices and or facilities they currently occupy.  

It is indeed appropriate to give Notice of the facts to federal employees and agency subcontractors in terms of what is going on, but not termination notices which would lead to a wholesale and disorganized panic and disruption of essential services people depend on. The “federal government” has to be turned over and reformed in a gradual and orderly way to prevent loss of national security, loss of domestic services and loss of life. The new services corporation will be considerably stripped down and reorganized, and federal employees may be widely re-tasked and re-educated to do other jobs, but there won’t be any extremely abrupt changeover if we can help it.

19. An interim administrative operation should be created to handle the details.
Provisions for protection of the people as well as a method to continue essential services need to be established locally.  

We anticipate the delivery of pensions and services will continue uninterrupted in most cases, but unlike the old system which promoted a permanent welfare population everyone will have sufficient credit to pay for all basic needs apart from any program or special entitlement or insurance so that the need for welfare programs and administration of welfare programs will dwindle and cease. People will simply have what they need and community assistance will be community assistance. We will always have the poor, the mentally ill, the addicted, the orphaned, and the infirm among us and we will always have to deal with these special challenges, but for many, many people the new system will offer immediate and permanent relief, mainstreaming them back into the community and freeing them to pursue new pathways. Marriage and family relationships will be encouraged, nurtured, and supported.   

20. It would seem county governments and municipal governments can continue in this function but under the direct supervision of the local citizen’s commission.  

Assemblies are supposed to provide this oversight function in the present system and for the most part have failed dismally. County and city governments are among the most corrupt organs in the entire system and it is up to the people to get motivated to “self-govern”. “Representatives” who “interpret” your needs through a filter of self-interest are no replacement for fiduciary deputies who have to act prudently and without nepotism or conflict of interest or improper contracting processes.  Basic reorganizations and new thinking are required especially at the local level.  

21. State government agencies and agents will be dealt with as required.  All employment arrangements and contracts terminated.  

Again, this is not practical or desirable to do in any abrupt or wholesale fashion and everyone should realize that although public employment tends to be a revolving door at the higher levels, it doesn’t have to be that way.  Term limits, the end of the “two party system” and other measures to ensure dynamic interaction with the whole community have to be considered as part of the overall re-examination of government functions on every level.

22. State court system abolished immediately. 

The State courts are needed to deal with the issues that the state courts have always been tasked with, but need to be operated on the land jurisdiction and as public courts for people, not private courts for corporations.

23. Arrangements for lawful elections must be coordinated. 

The most pressing electoral process has nothing to do with public offices, but with political status and that is not a ballot process, but a true election that then determines the obligations and standing and law that an individual accepts. These political status elections need to be among the very first discussions and orders of business people undertake.

24. An interim citizen council would need to be formed to handle care-taking details.  

Don’t know what you mean by this exactly.  Many communities and counties have already formed what are being called “Safety Committees”—groups of competent men and women who undertake the job of preserving the lives and the property of their communities.  These Safety Committees already engage in a wide variety of functions from planning for alternative power and fuel sources to developing “talent banks”--- who knows how to operate ham radios? ---who has paramedic training? ---do we have a dentist in the area? ---and organizing the local county infrastructure and elections to fill vacant public offices.

25. All current public officers and employees must be served termination notices effective in 10 days. 

These people aren’t our public officers and they aren’t our employees, either. Not directly, anyway. This is part of what is so hard for most Americans to understand.

     These are employees of a foreign government (federal) providing “essential governmental services” for THEIR citizens. The State is a “Federal State” and the County is a “Federal County” – franchises of the Federal corporation charged with providing these services and all of these entities are functioning in the foreign jurisdiction of the sea and under the Law of the Sea, not the Law of the Land, because they all incorporated themselves to share in the racketeering profits generated by the fraud.

     Your government --- which you thought you were paying for and electing people to fill offices in --- is vacant because you were deluded and deceived and mischaracterized as a “Federal Citizen” and failed to operate the land jurisdiction you are owed. Your government isn’t present.  Your parents and grandparents were fooled just as you were and they let it slip away gradually over a period of years and the end result is that we have to entirely rebuild the land jurisdiction government in America as unincorporated cities, unincorporated counties, unincorporated states, and have to seat a Continental (land) Congress as opposed to a United States (sea) Congress.

26. Notice also provided for new applications for employment being accepted by citizen commissions.  

We are just now in the process of recouping our assets and reclaiming our land and our sea jurisdiction from these interlopers. This is being done on a volunteer basis at present. Any idea anyone has that we are suddenly all set up, have plenty of money, and can just go ahead and hire a new government to suit ourselves needs to step back about ten steps and take stock of where we really are.  A few Americans woke up in time to save the Constitution, save our land claims, pass the “federal contract” to Americans and reconsolidate our joint claim on our jurisdiction of the sea.  We are now pursuing American assets which have been stolen, given away, registered in foreign domains all over the globe, taken via false claims of abandonment, suffered hypothecation, false copyrights---you name it, we have to deal with it, folks----and that is just the nuts and bolts part of getting our land patents and land descriptions and copyrights to our names and our gold and silver that have been purloined and our credit that has been hijacked and our identities that have been stolen back in our control and possession.

     At the same time there are unincorporated county, city, and state governments to set up, Sheriffs on the Land to elect, rats to arrest, liens to be collected, law suits to be filed, crimes to be prosecuted---all on a worldwide and totally unprecedented in the history of the world scale.

     Some aspects of this will come together surprisingly quickly, but this is not going to happen overnight.  Even if we all grab an oar to Save America and pull our Ship of State off the reef these criminals were trying to drive us upon, it will take time and effort and long patient slogging to restore the government we are heir to.

Open to further suggestions and discussion. 

          As usual, certain people (names deleted) drive me crazy running out far, far ahead of the game, trying to resolve things that MIGHT be resolvable two years from now and chomping at the bit, wanting to know why it isn’t already all done right NOW? Yesterday, even?  I get the feeling that I am somehow responsible for this mess –at least in the minds of some- simply because I took action to try to correct it and raised the alarm.

          Like the feckless suspect in a murder mystery who wandered into the library, found the dead body on the carpet with a blood-stained knife beside it, and mindlessly picked the knife up just in time for the Chief Inspector and four or five witnesses to show up and accuse me of the deed?

          I have--- among all the other fascinating facts I have learned in this life—learned that if you discover a crime and report it, you are automatically suspected of being guilty of it or responsible for it somehow.   But, of course, if you discover a crime you have the duty to report and oppose it, or you become an accomplice to it----so you are damned if you do and damned if you don’t and you might as well just do your best, throw your hands in the air, shake your head-- and run full tilt screaming into the bushes.  

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