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Thursday, August 23, 2018

Attorney Repudiates His US citizenship - Melvin Stamper



From 2008

Found here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=25&v=YTyvL2kZDlo


https://anticorruptionsociety.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/citizenship-repudiation-stamper1.pdf

Here is what Anna Von Reitz had to say about this work:

For more information on this I suggest you read Melvin Stamper, JD.,  The Fruit From a Poisonous Tree.  

Dr. Stamper was an early researcher into these matters and he got some of the history and implications wrong, but for the most part, he accurately describes what happened to convert our courts into THEIR courts.  

https://www.amazon.com/Fruit-Poisonous-Tree-Mel-Stamper/dp/0595524966/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1535030301&sr=8-1&keywords=melvin+stamper

89 comments:

  1. What Stuck With Me Most IN The Corruption During ww2.were Zionest Communist Work With FDR.and Henry morganthau,,and Harry dexter White. Shipped actual treasury plates , paper ,and ink to communist Russia. ....
    and the grand scale theft of all our resources exchange junk FRN'S redeemable. For nothing for UNITED STATES TREASURY actual silver.

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  2. Oh sheesh, I just wanna know if anyone has gotten any Results from their 843's to the irs. ?

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    1. How long did it take you to get a year by year listing of all the years you paid taxes, from the irs?
      Mine has been sent off for about a month now.

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    2. I got mine back with several 4506-T forms telling me I have to request them myself using this form. You can fill one out for 4 tax years at a time.

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    3. They will most likely deny your 843 request with some kakamamie excuse. But that us to be expected. You have to keep filing until you get your expected results. You can also,bill them $5,000 penalty for a frivolous response to your request. Then run them through administrative process to,estoppel and sue them in SC court. They will never show up and you win by default. Then bundle all your rejections as evidence of exhausting your admin remedies and sue them in US Court of Fedral Claims for several million.

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    4. 1FreeMan, Ah hah ! So after we did all that pre-requisite stuff to do the 843's we come to find out I was correct all along; just waste our time playing their Games, jumping thru hoops and tap dancing to their tunes, Lol.
      Oh sure, we are going to 'keep filing till .......dooms day'' with our heads in the clouds with 'someday they will cave in for us'. Now how funny is that !

      So now lets see where does that get us; oh yeah, to yet another scavenger hunt. I can bill them for a big $5, like they will pay up, lol. Then come back to 'our corner', get a big swig of water and soaked down, and listen for the bell to ring, come out into SC court, swinging.

      Does anyone else see these are all just deliberate trap doors to make people maneuver through, while 'they' sit there and laugh at The People tap dancing to their tunes? Like we are a sideshow for their circus.

      1FreeMan, you have got to be kidding !

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    5. Abby, as usual, you are completely missing the point. Always looking for the negatives and ready to pounce at the drop of a hat just to shout "See, I told you so!". Well, I have news for you. They are not going to simply fork over any amount of money unless you exhaust your administrative process and remedies which takes work and which is something you obviously are not willing or wanting to do. You have made that very clear at every opportunity. No, you were not correct all along and neither are you correct now. You are simply not willing to put forth any effort whatsoever and yet expect to see a rewarded somehow. Sorry, but it does not work that way. Here is how it does work but only if you are willing to work it. Your court order will immediately release all liens and refund all levies wrongfully collected with the proper notice to your local friendly collection agent under threat of filing a felony complaint for his arrest and which I have posted here before. Filing for a refund of your back taxes is going to take filing your claim and enforcing your claim filings through several means, i.e.: Form 843, CID, Form 3949-A and ultimately filing a complaint in US Court of Federal Claims. Someone I know did all of this already and was awarded over $2M. But again this would take the kind of work and effort that you would never be willing to exhaust yourself over. So Abby, please don't worry about this any longer. Go relax, have a nice cup of tea and don't bother expressing your opinions to people who are willing to make the effort and be rewarded in due time.

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    6. Lol good post as usual 1freeman ♩

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    7. Abby LOVES to be Abby 1freeman ♩

      "God: As for what you call, in your society, “work”—such a concept does not exist in most HEB cultures. Tasks are performed, and activities are undertaken, based purely on what a being loves to do, and sees as the highest expression of Self."

      https://stillnessinthestorm.com/2018/08/declassified-fbi-document-suggests-beings-from-other-dimensions-have-visited-earth/

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    8. 1FreeMan, what I see now is that you were way less then honest when you gave the steps leading to the filing of the Form 843. At that time you gave, I think, 4 steps/things that needed to be done to gather all that was needed to send together with the 843.

      You left it at that, and even ended by telling james pansini that if he he would file his 843 he would have the money to pay for his Passport. Remember that?
      You even went so far as to ask me to be the ''Test Run' to report results from the 843 'because it has not been done before''.

      NOW that folks are beginning to see this 843 business is showing itself as being another dead end street, you try to tell us that ''somebody has done all this and hatched a golden egg''. Really? How all of a sudden did that info come about and you just kept that to yourself.........AND, why are you just NOW telling us there is a whole lot more ''work' to be done to get results from the 843's?

      1FreeMan, what kind of a 'christian' hides the complete information? Do you not see how that is dishonest and deceitful?

      Same with your Passport information. Seems we saw where you left out the entire overview of ''work' involved there, too.

      You see why I do not just eat whatever crap you throw out there? Because those that do will find there is more you will add AFTER the fact. No wonder you and Anna are in each others hip pockets; you both refuse to deal from a whole deck; always withholding half of it to your own little self.

      Well, frankly now, after all that, I do not trust you, nor do I believe you any more. I had thought there was a least a couple of you who could be believed........but I see now, You are not among them and neither is Anna.

      So you go right ahead and keep your little half-assed information all to yourself and if you think that makes you feel like you are In Control over others, well God will deal with you on THAT.

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    9. Abby, do you ever cease complaining? Are you so averse to a little work and effort? Have I ever charged you a dime? Do I work for you? Do I owe you any explanation at all? If you go back to all that I have posted here, I have never kept back anything but laid it all out there for all to benefit from. Just as Anna puts it out there for everyone who will pick it up and work it. But you are too lazy to even pick up the pieces and fit them together or do any of your own work whatsoever. Only grumble and complain. So I ask you again, if you are not willing to put forth any effort to help yourself or to help your fellow man, then pray tell, what on earth are you doing on this blog? I am doing all I can at zero charge for anyone who asks. How so? Just got a trumped up child support case dismissed. Just helped a woman whose son was arrested for no reason to file suit against the 4 criminal officers for violating his Constitutional rights. Just helped a man get his wife out of jail and get his status corrected. Just helped a woman pay off her car with a $100 novation check to settle her $3,800 outstanding debt. I could go on but why bother? Nothing I can say will convince you anyway. What have you done lately to help your fellow man except to criticize, condemn and complain? If you had lived in Moses' day, the earth would have opened and swallowed you up. As part of the grumblers, you would not have been allowed into the promised land either. Examine yourself. Do you really believe that God would deal with me and not deal with you for your critical spirit? You of all people who I helped and encouraged to get a US Tax Court Order of Dismissal for Lack of Jurisdiction and you were one of the first ones to get it too. And what have you done with it? Probably nothing, right? Figures. You are on the wrong blog. Try ComplainersAnonymous.com. It might be a better fit for you.

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    10. First of all, why do we have to be so honest...When we receive bills from the IRS they never report the actual amount, because no one there does a verified "assessment" ...!! They just make up a number and send it to us, which is mail fraud...!! So if they want all the years you paid taxes....make them all up and make it outrageous so they have to call you to clarify...otherwise it will stand as the truth, as long as you don't sign it under "penalties of perjury"..!! Don't take any "liability" for it because they never do...!! And if they deny you, just keep up sending them a bill like they do until they finally make a mistake and forget to answer just one letter...then it's all over....silence is equated with acquiescence which is an automatic default, then take them to Court....!! And if they say your accounting is wrong, tell them to prove it....then start sending them delinquent payment letters until they get sick of answering....!! I would rather put them on the defensive , than me...!! Not one of there letters are ever signed by anyone...So neither will mine...!! I would rather have $2 million than a few thousand they think I owe...!! It's all about the money, and they have it. Especially if they can't account for $9 trillion that went magically missing....!! Those people don't deserve the truth, and it's not there money anyway....!!!

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    11. James, this is what the US tax court petition is all about. You simply tell them that you never received a notice of determination or a notice of deficiency and they dismiss your case for LOJ for all years claimed. Done. Why be difficult when easy works way better.

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    12. 1FreeMan, Huh? Do you ever really bother to read what I post? Why do you ask me what I ever did with the Tax Court Order?? Didn't I already say that I put it together with the 843 and sent it all off to the irs?? Why do you think I asked if anyone ever got any response from their 843's??

      Duh! Because I've gotten nothing from it. You sent us on a wild goose chase to gather up that stuff, which I did, Duh, and its been so long now I don't even remember what all that involved.

      Point is, it did absolutely nothing. And you knew it way before now, and neglected to say there will be more crap to do with it after sending the 843 in.

      So if you'd bother to really read, instead of can't wait to think up your next attack on me, and lying about me......you'd perhaps ''get it''.

      As for all you've been doing, you sure do know a lot of messed up people, Lol.

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    13. 1FreeMan, you are so good at doublespeak. First you told james pansini 'if he just does what he needs to do to file his 843's for refunds from the irs, he will have enough money to get the Passport''.
      And now you are telling him its easy. At the same time you tell me I probably won't get the desired response to my 843's ; probably have to keep filing till I do.
      So now which is it? Easy, or haggle? See how you are not being forthright and frank here? Do you not see that? And when I point that out to you, you refuse to own up to it and clarify, but prefer to TRY to say I'm complaining........LOL

      Pack up your ego and learn to be honest for a change. Anybody who reads back can see ''who started complaining and badgering and got their shorts all in a wad'........all because they can't just stick to the topic and answer. No, you just can't resist digging.

      I suppose if somebody told you it rained so hard their basement is now all flooded........you would accuse them of ''complaining'' LOL.
      Geesh, what a guy. Clean your glasses!

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    14. Abby u r a MASTER COMPLAINER if that helps your ego. That being said, perhaps this lack of 843 responses u r harping about as usual does have some potential lubricious merits.

      Am anxiously & cordially awaiting 1freeman's usually lucid response(s)♩

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    15. My dearest Abby, do you never cease to complain? First of all James has never done anything I have recommended, even when offered personal assistance, so your point is moot. Second, the process I shared with you to secure your US tax court order for LOJ went smooth as silk, did it not? After that I have no clue as to how you filed your 843 and for what purpose. You even admit that I clearly stated that it was a test because no one had done this before, right? What does that mean other than that I never promised you it would work the first time, right? So have I been forthright or have I been dishonest? You tell me. What I will tell you is that every loss is a win in the long run because you are building your case to ultimately file it in USCFC for the big prize. Their dishonor gives rise to your remedy. When you file your case, you have to prove that you have exhausted your administrative remedies because only then can you file in USCFC and have a proper claim. In the meantime, you can use your court order for lots of things, like stop paying taxes, stop having taxes taken form your paycheck, release liens and get levies refunded. Let me ask you this, have you used it yet to stop paying taxes?

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    16. 1FreeMan, ok so I must understand that you deal with lots of people, so I will reiterate for you: I am not only REtired, but also very Tired, lol. I do not pay taxes and have had no reason to for many many years.
      However, I do have a situation coming up where they will most likely think I should pay some taxes; so I will whip out my beautiful Court Order and ''flash them'' with it, thank you very much.
      I personally do not have any other tax issues. However my son does from when he was became suddenly unemployed in 2008/09 and has unpaid taxes from then which they have placed in their 'dead file', but they revive it once a yr. and remind us it is there.

      As for how I filed some of my own 843's? Just like you told us to do that. Fill one out for each year claim, Jan.1-Dec31, yrxxxx, along with the tax amount claimed Plus Interest.

      Signed and dated them along with one copy of the Court Order; sent it to the same IRS Office that I would have if I was expecting a Refund. Mine happened to be Fresno Office.

      That was back on July 8 but I've gotten no reply of any kind.
      (The 843's had the proper inserted paragraph and all other boxes were properly checked, and necessary info filled in.)

      (My son's situation is stagnated because the Dept. of Ed. swipes any Refunds due to him....so the student loans must be evaporated first, and I do not see that happening.)

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    17. 1FreeMan. You missed the point: It does not matter whether James P did anything or not, the point is you told him if he utilized the 843 form and got all his Tax Refunds, he would then have the money to purchase the Passport.
      THAT is the focus here. That you made it sound like, oh just do thus and thus and file for your Refunds and wallah you will have the money in your hands. But NOW you just now saying, well, they probably wont, you will probably have to keep hounding them for it.
      Also, we all see how your favorite passtime seems to be doing exactly the same thing you are accusing ME of........right? You see that? Aren't you COMPLAINING about me complaining.....here?

      That is how you always respond, by taking the focus off what I asked or what my topic was......and instead you tend to disregard that and Complain about me. Now if you ever took a minute to stop and think, you'd see it.

      Instead, why don't you just respond to what I am saying. Why do you get so touchy about everything. Since when does life pave a silk road for You?

      Keep in mind too, you are a guy; your wife does all the ''home work' so you are free to dig as deep as you want into all this humdrum ugly stuff. Thats fine for you. But you totally forget I AM the one here who has all the ''Home Work'' to do around here, and that can be quite a distraction since it entails a whole long list/variety of ''ladies work''.

      It helps if you try a little harder to put things in order and perspective, ya know?

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    18. You're welcome, Abby. Only since July 8th? Don't you know that the IRS always responds on their timetable and not yours? And respond they must at some point. But I would not wait on them. I would send copies of everything to Holtsville, DC and CID in Covington, KY. Make sure everyone gets a copy to make one of them respond to you. You already did the work so sending out copies should be simple and quick. If they don't respond after 3 months, file a 3949-A Information Referral for CID, in Fresno BTW, to investigate what they are doing with your claims. You need to be a "belligerent claimant" and you have the muscle to back it up. If some entity owed you a large refund and they ignored your requests, how belligerent would you be until they paid you what you were owed? Re: James, again, I openly told everyone this was a test as no one had done this before to our knowledge. I never promised him when it would work or how it would work or even if it would work at all. It was a suggestion just like my suggestion to you to send in your US tax Court petition. Do you realize how blessed you are to have received this first shot? They are starting to clamp down and many people I deal with are having to go back and forth for months now with no correct response and being dismissed for failure to pay the fee instead of blanket LOJ. Had James jumped on it like you did, he too might have gotten his order dismissal for LOJ. Has your son filed his petition yet to solve his problem? And yes, I will admit that I complain about your complaining. But which came first, the chicken or the egg? If you stop your CCC, I will have no cause to complain, right? This is not about house work. I have a job too providing for my family and have to make time to fight for our freedoms as well. We all get tired and need to recharge our batteries. But you know, there is nothing more satisfying and exhilarating than finally winning against the crooks and being able to help others do the same.

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  3. Here is the text version:
    https://anticorruptionsociety.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/citizenship-repudiation-stamper1.pdf

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  5. Here is download/access to CH 2 of his book Fruit from a Poisonous Tree:
    https://anticorruptionsociety.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/fruit-from-a-poisonous-tree-chapter-2-booklet.pdf


    I have the full pdf but at this time can not locate the link where I got it... searching...

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    1. Thanks, jcp. Checkout page 54, REMEDY OF NATURAL RIGHT AND PROTECTIONS

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    2. Apparently that was only one chapter. You can download the whole book here:
      https://docplayer.net/24507570-Fruit-from-a-poisonous-tree.html

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    3. How does any of this change the fact that our country is under military control from that article Anna produced awhile ago....the DOH is under military control, not part of the justice system....!!

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    4. Every court case is a trust because the case is a mortgage / trust indenture pursuant to EBRA of March 9, 1933, consenting to the seizure of all land, labor and property within the United States and held in trust by the Secretary of the Treasury on behalf of the Commander in chief. Plaintiff/Creditor intends to be paid for the charges by the bond he created from the Estate of the ALL CAPS Defendant/Debtor. As a natural man you are the subrogee on that bond and have a right of subrogation to settle all debts and charges against your NAME trust. But you have to exercise that right by filing a Notice of Claim of Subrogation with the court. This works on all cases in all courts.

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    5. ^Irrelevant when you are summons to appear.

      1FreeMan, the information you provide here is completely irrelevant when someone is in a situation whereby they are a defendant for a criminal matter.

      Your information (as well as Anna's) is like a fairytale story. It have absolutely no practical utility in the face of a REAL court case.

      Alas, you are not a trained attorney. You have not taken the LSAT, earned a J.D., passed the Bar exam, and finally, you are not currently licensed to practice the law.

      So, anyone who takes your advice seriously is a total fool because you are no authority in the law. You are just a random shit head with an opinion or story to tell. Anna's no different. All you folks do is talk shit. The shit you talk is dressed up as authoritative but holds absolutely no weight what-so-ever. Carry on.

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    6. Irrelevant? No practical utility? I don't think so, Kerubale. Then please explain how a $165k IRS case was recently voluntarily dismissed by the IRS/DOJ after filing a notice of claim of subrogation? The fact is that they use your NAME trust to create a bond to protect themselves in any court case whether civil or criminal because all criminal cases are commercial and civil in nature according to statute. This gives you the right of subrogation on that bind as a natural man and non US citizen to file a claim. It works just like a car insurance policy. As I told you before, a man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with a theory. You are the man with only theories and no experience in these matters whatsoever. The takeaway here is that a trained attorney can never do this for you because attorneys and judges are prohibited by statute from even speaking about this. You have to do this yourself. BTW: I have challenged you before to post a link to a state issued attorney license and you have failed to do so. No attorney has a state issued license to practice law because no such animal exists. They only have a BAR card membership to a private club. If they have any license at all, it will issued by a court allowing them only to practice in that court and not outside of it. All licenses are required to be issued by the state in which they operate or they are simply unlicensed.

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    7. PS: every state has an attorney lookup page where you can search to see if that attorney is "Active" which means that he had paid his annual BAR member fees. What is very conspicuous here is that they do not reference any license or license number but instead use an ""Attorney ID #". Now why do you think they would do that?

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    8. 1FREEMAN, YOU ARE NOT LICENSED TO GIVE PEOPLE LEGAL ADVICE.

      NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR UNVERIFIABLE CLAIMS OF SUCCESS. YOUR UNSUBSTANTIATED CLAIMS DO NOT EQUATE TO A LICENSE TO GIVE PEOPLE LEGAL ADVICE.

      STOP IT. WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS HARMFUL AND POTENTIALLY ILLEGAL.

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    9. Hey K, what part of my message did you choose to ignore? There is not one licensed attorney in all of this country so none of them are licensed to be able to give advice. So what's your point? Besides, I never give legal advice since that would be harmful to a man or woman upon the land's lawful standing. All I share are ideas and procedures that work and which I can fully document and substantiate but certainly not to you. You do not qualify. These are state secrets that may only be divulged to non US citizens. Since you have openly and repeatedly declared yourself to be an enemy of We The People as a federal 14th amendment US corporate citizen, you would place yourself at great risk if you executed any of these processes. Please be guided accordingly.

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    10. Rothleland@gmail.com for 1freeman ♩

      I have an old friend of mine from just after college days who u might be able to help with - who reads here & likes in general your posts. I hope u don't mind me giving your email address to this person if that is how u choose to respond to me.


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  6. So basically, the source of this sovereign citizen bullshit ideology is the Bar? Hmmm. Therefore, it is in their interest that you people are subverted.

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    1. No cuss words for us to swoon over today Undie?

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    2. Go ahead and believe the words of a RETIRED attorney hahaha!!!

      What has he got to lose? He's retired just like the old hag, ANNA.

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    3. Boy oh boy are you people gullible... smh..

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    4. "Notice that a crime is an act against the State, but a tort is against an
      individual. So if you murder someone how is that a crime against the
      State?

      Please note that when you are charged with an offense, you are charged
      with violating a code or statute, not for violating the individual. The reason
      this is being done is because the State claims to own you, so if you kill
      someone it is the State that has been damaged.
      A tort is either mala in se or a breech of contract that causes a damage.
      There must be intent, but to commit a crime against the State there does
      not need to be intent."

      THE AMERICAN HALLUCINATION http://www.apfn.org/apfn/halluc.htm
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    5. It is a violation against state and/or federal statutes to murder someone in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd degree. Man slaughter is also a violation. The first victim of a crime is the LAW itself. In this case it is the statutes. The second victim of a crime is the body politic. In this case the State or Federal Government. The third victim of a crime is the person that has been murdered.

      Leland, you have not attended formal legal training in law school. You are not an authority on this subject and risk not only misleading yourself but others when you make unsound arguments about the law. Do not quit your day job (whatever that may entail).

      It's ok to be aware that you are unaware. But it's wrong to consume unvetted information and spread it as if it is 100% absolute true. You put people's lives at stake because not everyone that reads forums like these are as pussy as you are. This world is in huge supply of dumb brutes that will take things literally and use what they take literally to justify violent acts against statutes, body politics, and people (in that mother fucking order).

      Better off leaving the law to the experts to speak about.

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    6. U r not an expert @ anything but stealing undie, thus u support the ongoing illegal US CORPORATION illegal amendments to the core♩

      And that is why u voted for Killary in 2016☇

      "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country."
      - James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434, June 8, 1789

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    7. "The soul of the nation slowly withers as the spring leaves are crushed beneath the hammer. My vision sears the crowded square. This rotten place, I choose to EXPPPPLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOORRRRREEEEEEE!!!!!!!"

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A71aFmz0iQE

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    8. Well regulated militia...?

      Feast your eyes...

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regimini_militantis_Ecclesiae

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  7. Sorry not buying any of this crap. You fools are free to buy into it and hold it as absolute truth if you like. Go ahead and try your theories out. Become real life experiments. I along with 99% of the population of the U.S., however, will not fall for any of these tricks.

    I 100% DO NOT AGREE WITH SOVEREIGN CITIZEN, DOMESTIC TERRORIST IDEOLOGIES. I DO NOT WANT TO ASSOCIATE WITH ANYONE THAT IS KNOWN BY THE AUTHORITIES TO BE A "SOVEREIGN CITIZEN." I WILL ABIDE BY FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL STATUTES. I AM 100% PROUD OF BEING A 14TH AMENDMENT UNITED STATES CITIZEN. FINALLY, I RESPECT THE AUTHORITY OF THE FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL AUTHORITIES.

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    1. - The Most Rev. Kerubale G. Abegaz

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    2. "Our States have been at peace since 1814.  Our People remain exactly where they have always been, despite the deliberate falsification of millions of public records by agents of the British Crown Corporation.

      We have seen the evidence in full and we declare that this is not and never was anything but unbridled international crime and legal chicanery carried out by the British Crown and the British Government and the British Monarch operating under conditions of open and deliberate fraud, Breach of Trust, and violation of Commercial Contracts (the Constitutions) owed to us." http://www.paulstramer.net/2018/04/the-two-unions-our-dominion-and-order.html?m=1

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    3. I along with 99% of the U.S. Population don't care what you claim to have seen and what you declare.

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    4. I certainly DGAF what some retired attorney thinks. I'm concerned with preserving the status quo. I want to conserve the objective reality known as the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution. If you have a problem with that, then sue me. :-)

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    5. The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
      - Samuel Adams, Massachusetts Ratifying Convention, 1788

      And undie voted for Killary in 2016!

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    6. Stop it with the url links to sources that are not credible. You are not convincing me of the stength of your arguments by doing this. You are actually convincing me that you are bat-shit crazy because your sources are bat-shit crazy. Don't quit your day job unless spreading bat-shit crazy conspiracies and promoting violence against the state is you profession.

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    7. Leland, stop misquoting historical figures. You are not formally trained as a historian. You have no credentials. So every thing you quote in here is simply a misinterpretation. No one cares. You will not convince people who truly matter. You might convince dumb brutes.. But not the folks who truly got their shit together.

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    8. Undie...u r so lost...♩

      THOUGHT FOR THE DAY!
      "There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." --Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, Ch. III, "White Blackmail"

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    9. The people of the United States are the States themselves who bare Coats Of Arms. It is the State that has the right to keep arms. The County Sheriff's, State Troopers, etc., Not the actual citizens. Peaceable citizen stands for law enforcement officers not you regular shmucks. 2nd Amendment applies to the State and Federal Authorities only.

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    10. Mwuahahaha!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1-TFkDYNl0

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    11. "On March 12, 1819 the State of Virginia, with the enactment and publication of the laws of Virginia, became the 13th and FINAL state required to ratify the above article of amendment to the Constitution For The United States, thus making it the Law Of The Land. With the enactment of Act No. 280, March 12, 1819, which was Voted, En Bloc, and publication of the Revised Code, the State of Virginia notified the Department of State, the Congress, the Library of Congress, and the President of their action by issuing to each a copy of the Laws of Virginia. [See VA 1819 Images] . In fact, the Journal of the Virginia Senate; Tuesday, May 1st, 1810 (Pages 511-512 shows that the resolution to amend was properly enrolled and ratified on that date by the Virginia House and Senate, to be laid before the President of the United States, therefore the first state to ratify.
      This Article of Amendment is intimately connected to questions of loyalty, honesty, war and national defense. It is designed to combat internal subversion and discord sowed by people who are adhering to powers foreign to the Congress of the United States without stepping across the bold Constitutional line of treason. The authors of the TONA wrote it after some additional experience with how the British Empire, as well as other European nations, actually conduct their affairs. It is a corrective and supplemental measure to go along with Constitutional treason."

      http://www.amendment-13.org

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    12. Long live the 13th Amendment.

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    13. Correction: The Most Irreverend.

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    14. As a christian, do you not believe in original sin?

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    15. Apparently you have no problem with any kind of sin. You have already blatantly sinned against the commandment "Therefore let your speech be holy" Col. 4:6.

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    16. 13th Amendment has codified original sin. Embrace it as it reinforces the christian concept of original sin. Mwuauauahhhh!

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    17. Again as usual, you are talking out of your derriere.

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    18. And again.. you all think you can stop this well oiled machine..

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLd6h5td8G4

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    19. "I am a walking contradiction that's found consistency
      consuming everything, all without producing sustenance."

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    20. Have you been drinking again?

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    21. Go Forth and Set the . . . . . 😋

      -St. Ignatius of Loloya

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arqh5jDHBDw

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    22. "Fools, y'all are. Drawing from a well run dry. Fools, y'all are. Defending truths y'all know are lies."

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    23. Unknown and all the rest of you, why are we still arguing about some document (contract) that was written 200 years ago....thats everyone's problem here....i have no constitutional rights and I wouldn't take them if they offered them to me....My rights existed way before that stupid document was even conceived...!! Unaluenable, remember that word...!! You can't even contract those rights away except through FRAUD...!!
      And for your information, rights these days are determined by court cases....and the recent 9th Circuit rulings have made "open carry" legal in all 50 states....who cares if the cops don't like it....its the damn LAW now....!! Right unknown..!! What law am I breaking when the courts have just memorialized it....!! So here is another problem...people are to scared to follow law now...!! Why isn t everyone packing a weapon..If I had the money, I have a nice one in a nice holster , with diamonds on it to make sure people , including the cops it......Do you feel lucky punk"...well do you...!!

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    24. I'd never give anyone a lawful reason to shoot me. I don't really go on adventures and socialize that much to be in the presence of someone packing and to even do anything remotely perceived as threatening a life or property.

      I believe that the whole open carry thing is a states issue and that felons or people that have been mentally unfit to own a handgun cannot open carry. As an ethnic person, I feel it not wise for me to open carry. I'd rather conceal carry with a permit.

      Just don't expect for states to put up with all these crazy mass shootings that are happening these days and will surely continue to happen. The political environment and forums like these are only making the case for open carry worse. It is not the speech that will worsen the case. It is the actions of people that use the ideologies within the speech as a basis for their senseless actions that will worsen the case for open carry people.

      All it takes is for the states to legislate the end of open carry. You have to consider many things. Population growth, Mass hysteria caused by social media (sites like this forum), etc. These are things that will make open carry argument weaker and weaker in the face of public safety.

      You can't open carry in NJ without going to a lot of hurdles. Can't do it in New York City, that's for sure. Expect the worse and hope for the best. I expect the worse especially with people like Trump in office. Looks like his chances of getting impeached are growing and growing with each word he utters. How will all his MAGA supporters react if he's impeached? Will Trump make a call to arms the way ANNA seems to be encouraging him to do in this forum?

      What would be the outcome of a failed armed rebellion. A blanket ban of all firearms will be probable. And these days there are people like ANNA who cleverly try to provide the appearance that Trump is on her side. Or that Trump is Aware of her mission. All of this kind of stuff is real bad for open carry and gun lovers. You guys think it is good and that it is a demonstration of strength. But that's where you are tricked into loading up to the teeth with fire arms. Slowly you begin to be coaxed into a situation where you are armed against what you consider as "the deep state." By this point it is too late. A bloody civil war ensues (of course only bloody on your side). Those who you consider the deep state will out number and out gun you. They will cut off your supply lines with superb intelligence and technology they will ambush you and flank you and cut you all down to pieces.

      And then finally, when the short lived war is over, there will be a blanket ban across the U.S. on firearms and ammunition. Your rights that you now take for granted... the rights that you are extremely sensitive of being infringed? They will be gone.

      If you guys think the outcome of the Civil War of the 19 century (13th Amendment) is bad then you have not seen anything yet. But you all are pawns just like the poor souls that enlisted in confederate. You do the bidding of your enemy without even realizing it. OVer and over again. You are so confident that you are right. So blinded by righteousness that you dont realize that the enemy is pulling your strings and have been since a very loooong time.

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    25. The Firm "Declaration" by "Unknown" above Is Classic!!!!!!!! Big belly laughs always a good thing!!
      Much Gratitude, Lots of love and Peace Be

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  8. Ling live the thirteenth spoken like a lawyer or lier.
    All your statues are cap for fleecing fools.
    an awaking is in the air Mr lawyer .and like the 7 ammendment stipulates judges only hear cases under 50$.lier lawyers in violation of foreign agent regeneration act.

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    1. I'm not a lawyer. Nor do I ever wish to become one.

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    2. But I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water if I were you.

      Lawyers can save your behind if you are in a tricky situation. They can protect your interests. Of course, it would cost you money for it. Nothing in life is free. So I have no issues with lawyers. I just would never want to become one.

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    3. Lawyers will throw you under the bus and then run you over and send you a bill for good measure.

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    4. There is no difference between a lawyer and an attorney, like some people on this site have suggested...both are BAR carrying traitors....!! Maybe at one time there was, but not anymore...!!

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    5. Brah.. If I'm accused of any crime... scratch that.. if I'm investigated for any thing by the authorities.. I'm not saying a single thing besides my name and that I am pleading the 5th.

      Most often we are the ones that throw ourselves under a bus. I don't ever want to be in a position where I am a Pro Se defendant in a criminal matter.

      A Lawyer or attorney will do their best to represent your best interests. 1FreeMan, you talk plenty of shit. You are a huge shit talker. Only a fool would not want to be represented by an attorney.

      Your optimism does not fool me. A foolish idiot can be optimistic. All it means is that they are so unaware that they are unaware that they boldly dare to do things based of their ignorance of their situation.

      All the optimism from Anna and her fans is based of ignorance. Pure ignorance of disposition. Of the law. Someone put a battery in your back and has got you thinking that you will win hahaha!



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    6. Hey K, you do not want to be Pro Se but a Sui Juris if at all. Better to the Executor and Beneficiary of the NAME trust. People have gotten cases outright dismissed by walking into court and right up to the prosecutor saying "I am here as the General Executor of the trust. Where is your written permission from the Executor's Office to administer this estate?" Try it next time you get a speeding ticket.

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    7. Freeman, couldn't you just put that expression in a letter and mail it to the prosecutor? I have an aversion to going into their courts. Let the mailman do it. Your thoughts?

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    8. 1FreeMan, is there any way I could contact you directly? I have tried the tax court approach twice and have had both attempts dismissed for lack of jurisdiction for non payment of the fee. I would love to do as you have suggested above, but I do not have all the details. I have heard about going the the court of federal claims, but need more info on exhausting my administrative remedies. Please allow me to contact you directly outside of this forum. I can give you my email address if you feel it appropriate to do that here. Thank you.

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    9. Yes, JHD, you can as long as you are the Executor of your trust and can prove so in the record if challenged.

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    10. Surem JHD, Just post your email and I will contact you direct. You can post it and then immediately remove your post and I will still get the email. For everyone else's edification, we see this a lot if people have outstanding IRS issues where they just want to give you a hard time to prevent you from getting your case dismissed. You have 2 options. 1) File an amended petition (just type Amended in front of Petition on the form) in which you state the following:
      "The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that a natural individual entitled to relief is entitled to free access to its judicial tribunals and public offices in every State in the Union (2 Black 620, see also Crandell v. Nevada, 6 Wall 35).
      Plaintiff should not be charged fees, or costs for the lawful and constitutional right to petition this court in this matter in which he is entitled to relief, as it appears that the filing fee rule was originally implemented for fictions and subjects of the State and should not be applied to the Plaintiff who is a natural individual and entitled to relief. Hale v. Henkel, 201 U.S. 43]"
      Notice: My due process has been violated due to the Respondent has never served me with any Notice of Deficiency or Determination for all the years so stated on the Petition attached.
      or, 2) file a Motion to Dismiss for Lack of Jurisdiction. Use the same format they use and file it with the court and send a copy to the respondent.

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    11. "Hey K, you do not want to be Pro Se but a Sui Juris if at all. Better to the Executor and Beneficiary of the NAME trust. People have gotten cases outright dismissed by walking into court and right up to the prosecutor saying "I am here as the General Executor of the trust. Where is your written permission from the Executor's Office to administer this estate?" Try it next time you get a speeding ticket."


      Hey 1FreeMan, YOU ARE NOT LICENSED TO GIVE ANYONE LEGAL ADVICE.

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    12. K, neither are you. So why are you giving me legal advice not to give legal advice?

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  9. Hahahaha!!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbvknXpFA2Q

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  10. Look at this idiot who argues that youtube and other social media companies are obligated to allow "free speech" on their platforms hahahahaaaa!!!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odLn3J_jtao

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  12. Unknown, maybe you could find something else to do w/your time. I seriously doubt anyone actually listens to your rants here anyway. Does the word quisling mean anything to you?

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    1. Well, the extremely dubious 'final solution' now seriously taints the case against Quisling in general- I think Quisling has far higher morals than undie just for the record♩

      "The importance of the Nazi-Zionist pact for Israel’s establishment is difficult to overstate. According to a 1974 analysis in Jewish Frontier cited by Brenner, between 1933 and 1939 over 60% of all the investment in Jewish Palestine came from Nazi Germany. The worldwide impoverishment of the Great Depression had drastically reduced ongoing Jewish financial support from all other sources, and Brenner reasonably suggests that without Hitler’s financial backing, the nascent Jewish colony, so tiny and fragile, might easily have shriveled up and died during that difficult period." https://alethonews.com/2018/08/07/american-pravda-jews-and-nazis/#comment-117091

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  13. Yes, JHD, you can as long as you are the Executor of your trust and can prove so in the record if challenged. I would like to discuss this w/you when we make contact. So many ways suggested, but which one actually works? Thanks again 1FreeMan.

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